28th April 2020
I have found, I suspect like almost everyone else, that it is almost impossible to keep track of what is going on with COVID. Stories swirl and multiply, and almost everyone seems to be trying to get something out of it. People are claiming miracle cures and success – but it is difficult to verify any such claims.
The normal rules of research (flawed though they often are) have completely flown out of the window. It is like the wild west, with snake oil salesmen announcing wonderful products that not only cure COVID, but every other disease… I mean every other disease, known to man.
‘You sir, you look like an intelligent man, a man who understands science. A man who can see that my wonderful potion can cure almost every ailment that befalls man. Baldness, wrinkled skin, impotence, COVID…
‘A vaccine you say sir, of course, I shall have one ready and done in four months, start to finish … safety sir, did you mention safety? No need for such things, vaccines are always safe, never caused anyone any harm. Never a single case of any problems.’
‘Narcolepsy sir… sounds like nonsense, never heard it. Guillain-Barré sir. My, we have been at the medical dictionary haven’t we? In my opinion, if you can’t spell it, you don’t need to worry about it. Sounds French to me anyway – and you can’t trust the French, can you?’
‘The WHO sir… what’s that you say? It may be that you can get infected twice. So how is any vaccine going to work. Well, I must say sir that vaccines are far more effective at creating immunity than getting the actual infection. Everyone knows that sir… what do you mean utter bollocks. I can tell you that a vaccine will always work, every time, guaranteed one hundred per cent effective, or your money back.’
‘Bill Gates is behind it all sir you say, pushing for mandatory vaccines for all diseases. You think it’s like something out of 1984. Well, Mr Gates is an expert in viruses sir, is he not…His operating system did allow a massive attack on IT systems in the NHS in 2017 sir. Now, if you will excuse me, I have more snake oil to sell… tatty bye sir, and good luck to you.’
‘Roll up, roll up.’
Which takes me to vitamin D. Which is my miracle cure for COVID.
I know that, in the West, the medical profession, hates vitamins with a passion. Those who promote vitamins are the very personification of woo, woo medicine. They have no proven beneficial effects they rant and on, and on. Insult and attack.
However, as I have been known to point out, the ‘vit’ in vitamin, stands for vital. As in, if you don’t take them, you die. So, they do kind of have important beneficial effects on the human body. Of course, I know the counter argument, which is not that vitamins are not necessary, of course they are, even doctors agree with that. The battle is about the optimal level for health.
We are told that almost everyone has sufficient vitamin intake from the food they eat, and that anything above that intake just creates expensive urine. In addition, some vitamins can be dangerous in excess. We have seen up to one death a year, in some cases.
Leaving the battles about vitamins to one side, what are the optimal levels of various vitamins? The answer is no-one really knows … for sure. The central problem here is that, when vitamins were first isolated, their deficiencies were creating major and obvious health problems. A lack of vitamin C caused scurvy – leading to death.
A lack of vitamin B1 a.k.a. thiamine led to Beriberi, with nerve and muscle damage and wasting and death. A severe lack of vitamin B12 lead to nerve damage, anaemia, weakness and death.
So, the focus was very much on finding the dose of vitamins required to prevent these serious health problems. However, no-one was particularly interested in looking beyond this bare minimum, to try and establish what level of a vitamin is associated with optimal health. For example, what are long term effects on cancer and heart disease – for example. Or prevention of infections.
Looking specifically at vitamin D, the major and immediate health problem caused by a lack of vitamin D is on bones. Without vitamin D, calcium is not absorbed properly and the bones become thin and brittle. Children with low vitamin D develop rickets, bent bones that do not grow properly.
Once the level of vitamin D required to protect the bones was established, that was pretty much seen as job done. However, is it better for health to have higher levels. Can we be optimally healthy with, what many believe, to be a low vitamin D level?
More importantly right now, does a higher level of vitamin D enable you to fight off infections such as influenza and COVID? Of course, as I stated at the beginning, in the middle of the COVID maelstrom, people are claiming everything about everything.
So, I am going to take you back to 2008 to look at Virology Journal – yes, this is about as mainstream as you can possibly get in the world of virus research. The article was called ‘On the epidemiology of influenza.’ If you want to get your mind blown, read it 1.
It set out to answer seven questions:
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- Why is influenza both seasonal and ubiquitous and where is the virus between epidemics?
- Why are the epidemics so explosive?
- Why do epidemics end so abruptly?
- What explains the frequent coincidental timing of epidemics in countries of similar latitudes?
- Why is the serial interval obscure?
- Why is the secondary attack rate so low?
- Why did epidemics in previous ages spread so rapidly, despite the lack of modern transport?
Yes, I realise COVID is not Influenza, but past research on influenza is about as close as you can get. Cutting to the chase, of a very long article, the authors concluded the reason why flu was far more common in winter, is because people have much lower levels of Vitamin D.
Below is their graph of vitamin D levels in the UK, at different times of the year.
These researchers then looked at what happened to people who took vitamin D supplements all year round. One group took placebo, one group took 800 international units (IU) a day – and one group took 800 IU per day but 2000 IU a day in the final year of the trial. Below is a graph of what they found.
To put this another way, of those 104 subjects who took 2,000 IU of vitamin D every day, only one got a cold or influenza in the entire year.
Perhaps more importantly, if you do get infected with influenza, vitamin D (especially D3) has a potent effect on protecting endothelial cells. And damage to endothelial cells appears to be a key mechanism by which COVID creates the most severe, and potentially fatal, symptoms. Here is a section from the paper ‘Dietary Vitamin D and Its Metabolites Non-Genomically Stabilize the Endothelium.’
‘Vitamin D is a known modulator of inflammation. Native dietary vitamin D3 is thought to be bio-inactive, and beneficial vitamin D3 effects are thought to be largely mediated by the metabolite 1,25(OH)2D3…
Our data suggests the presence of an alternative signaling modality by which D3 acts directly on endothelial cells to prevent vascular leak. The finding that D3 and its metabolites modulate endothelial stability may help explain the clinical correlations between low serum vitamin D levels and the many human diseases with well-described vascular dysfunction phenotypes.’ 2
In short, it seems Vitamin D stops you getting infected with viruses and, even if you do get infected, it helps to mitigate the worst effects. This could explain results from a, not yet published study, looking at the severity of COVID infections vs. the level of Vitamin D in the blood 3.
On the face of it, remarkable benefits. However, they fit with what is already known about the benefits of vitamin D on influenza.
Further supporting the role of vitamin D in COVID, it has been recognised in many countries that those with dark skin are more likely to get infected, and die, from COVID. Here from the Guardian (UK newspaper).
I am not alone in being alarmed at the preponderance of deaths from COVID-19 among those with dark skin (UK government urged to investigate coronavirus deaths of BAME doctors, 10 April). While COVID-19 is likely to magnify the effect of social deprivation, I don’t think this is the whole story.
Vitamin D is needed for many reasons, including correct functioning of the immune system. It is converted to its active form by the action of sunlight on the skin. This is impeded by having dark skin and leads to low levels of vitamin D. Supplementing with vitamin D3 at 5000iu daily corrects this deficiency, and it is now an urgent need for all people with dark skin (and most with white). There is a reasonable chance that vitamin D replacement could help reduce the risk we are seeing playing out so tragically in the BAME community 4.
So, what do we know?
- Dark skinned people are more likely to die from COVID
- Dark skinned people are more likely to have low vitamin D levels 5
- Vitamin D supplements protect against colds and flu – and hopefully COVID
- Higher levels of Vitamin D should be able to mitigate the damage caused by COVID
The increased risks of low vitamin D levels on COVID seem dramatic, and the benefits of supplementation with vitamin D could be just as dramatic. I have been going out into the sun wherever possible in the last month. I take Vitamin D3 supplements 4,000 units a day. I strongly advise everyone else to do the same. It is snake oil, and it is free (if provided by the sun).
The only problem I see is that I cannot make any money out of this at all. Oh well. Perhaps I should claim to be making a vaccine, that could earn me billions.
1: https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-5-29
2: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0140370
3: https://www.grassrootshealth.net/blog/first-data-published-COVID-19-severity-vitamin-d-levels/
4: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/10/uk-coronavirus-deaths-bame-doctors-bma
Dr. Malcolm Kendrick 
Thankyou.
I always read Malcolm Kendrick with pleasure. I am replying to Jean Humphreys since I can’t see how to make a comment otherwise. Zoe Harcombe has analysed studies which indicate that overweight people are more likely to end up in critical care if they catch covid19. Is there any mechanism which would inhibit vitamin D’s protective effect on endothelial cells in overweight people? Or is it more likely to be that overweight people have low levels of vitamin D due to diet, lack of sunshine, and so on? In other words, would it be the low vitamin D levels rather than the high BMI that lead to the critical outcome?
There is a relationship between the amount of adipose tissue (fat) and the amount of effective D3 in the body. Hopefully Malcolm can elaborate. Vitamin D is fat soluble I think (and a potent signalling molecule), hence would be sequestered by fat cells. This maybe a mechanism for the body to store vitamin D in late summer and autumn for the long dark winters. Obviously latitude plays a part, as you can see by the evolved shade of skins as native populations move away from the equator. Hence darker skinned people living at higher latitudes have a mismatch of phenotype / environment. + to this the over weight angle and they are susceptible to even lower levels of 25-hydroxy vD.
Highly probable, this link takes you to a study published in 2015, showing causal link between obesity and low VIT D. I am involved in sport/ sport nutrition and VIT D has been the cause for a whole host of both health and performance related research. We do know that those with certain genetic factors and even a lifestyle with poor nutrition and lack of outside activity (the irony that we are now locked up) even clothing choice/cultural pressure can lead to significant VIT D deficiency. From sport perspective Vitamin D supplementation seems to show lower incidence of URTI in elite athletes. Remember many elite athletes have suppressed immune functions due to training and competition stress. So this and other findings related to immune function are relevant to other populations. You may have noticed that mushrooms in the supermarket are now often VIT D enhanced (through light not chemicals) worth the few extra pence perhaps, just don’t peel them!
https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1001383
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Maybe helpful?
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2020.00184/full
FTL: Preliminary indications from the UK [3], China [4] and the USA [5] suggest that patients with obesity, at least in hospital, have a worse prognosis. This is consistent with long-established observations that patients with acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) who have obesity do worse, for several reasons [6]. Obesity causes atelectasis, particularly in the posterior dependant lung zones [7] and this, along with collapse of alveolar capillary units because of raised pleural pressures [8] leads to diminished recruitability of lung tissue. Also, parenchymal heterogeneity leads to high lung shear forces, even when applied ventilatory pressures are low and without well-established lung injury [9]. This is consistent with population-based observations that obesity adversely affects lung function [10].
However, it is becoming increasingly apparent that there may be more specific mechanisms by which obesity worsens the outcome of COVID-19, arising from metabolic and inflammatory derangements rather than merely the mechanical effects of increased fat tissue.
janecnorman: Sounds like obesity is another case of the yellow fingers effect.
In the UK news report this morning, the 35 year-old who’d just gone home after 3 weeks on a ventilator saying “I’m young, why did I get covid?!” is still noticeably obese ….
And in today’s Guardian, a report on a new study states: “The study also revealed ….. The most significant health risk factor was obesity, increasing risk of death by 37% – a greater amount than heart disease (31%), lung disease (19%) or kidney disease (25%).”
Yes but vitamin D deficiency may well contribute to obesity as it seems to contribute to metabolic syndrome along with high sugar diets and it is harder for someone who is obese to maintain sufficient blood levels of vitamin D as it is stored in the fat and there is more fat which seems to hold onto it. Basically all the groups which are at high risk of vitamin D deficiency also have poorer outcomes with COVID. BAME people living in the UK are much more at risk than the same ethnic groups living near the equator, and BAME doctors are not socioeconomically deprived so two main reasons given for excess deaths of BAME do not hold up whereas it makes perfect sense from a vitamin D perspective. There are now 7 papers showing a strong association between vitamin D deficiency and increased morbidity and mortality in Covid 19. https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1548/rr-19. I agree with Malcolm. Don’t wait for absolute certainty when it’s a cheap easily available substance which we know many people in the UK and around the world are short of and we know it has other benefits. Get on with taking supplements and getting some sun without burning when you can.
Janecnorman wrote:
” I am replying to Jean Humphreys since I can’t see how to make a comment otherwise”
The answer is to scroll to the very bottom of this page and you will find an invitation to post your comments.
Maybe Janecnorman is having a similar problem to what I’ve had. When I try to ‘reply’ to a sub-comment, the reply is addressed to the original comment’s author and not to the person who wrote the sub-comment…
Vitamin D is stored in their fat cells first and it is only after all the fat cells are filled that the Vitamin D is then available to undertake via the bloodstream all its other processes in the body ie immune system moderating etc etc ( see the 33000 research papers on Vitamin D ). Being overweight is similar to having dark skin as it means you need a factor of 2-3 times(or more) the usual vitamin D supplements to get any benefit. It is funny ( not) how we suffer from so many immune system disfunction problem illnesses today and yet few endeavour to keep their Vitamin D levels correct ( or given guidance to) so their immune system works correctly and does not get out of control as it deals with daily problems. Unfortunately no profit to be made from healthy people whose Vitamin D levels are OK to regulate all the systems it impacts. I think low levels of Vitamin D is similar to running your car with its radiator and oil levels only a third full and the software controlling everything working as best it can but not to good which wrecks the car ( body) in the end. Every cell in the body has a Vitamin D receptor – thats not mentioned often? Links to the DNA in every cell and its function for repairing/replicating the cell. Adequate Vitamin D means B cells are given priority over T cells in immune system response which for Covid 19 means no/less cytokine storm and its problems ie ventilator and 50/50 chance or worse of survival. The steroid recently ID as a great help for patients is only doing the job Vitamin D would have done if the patients had enough of it in their systems. Just 20 minutes sunshine between 10 to 3 o’clock or a cheap supplement each day for so much health giving advantage …………..Maybe Covid 19 will allow more publicity for the ESSENTIAL HEALTH BENEFITS that OPTIMAL Vitamin D levels can give to the World populations health seeing as most countries populations are deficient in Vitamin D and suffering accordingly. ( everyone applies suntan lotion so gets few/no UVB rays to produce their Vitamin D) Sort the Vitamin D deficiency problem and cut health costs and improve everyones lives. Cheap win win for all. A Vitamin D health follower.
PS Stay safe and please wear a mask – protect your fellow life traveller as hopefully they will protect you likewise. See Vietnam and Thialand figures where they all wore masks from day one – very few cases and handful if that of deaths – same as other Far Eastern countries who have been through SARS and MERS before – all low cases and deaths.learnt from past experience.
Are you using vit D advocacy as a cover story for propagandising the face covering mandate – which is but a social guilting placeholder for the vaccine or ‘immunity passport’ (sic) to come?
If you want to believe in face covering as safe and effective you are welcome, but it is fear that you are locking in and a sense of instilled guilt that frames and drives such thought as you take to be your own.
That a ‘new world order’ (sic) can be built upon such premises is being rolled out as a biotech security state – using every and any ruse to profile, target and manipulate your otherwise hidden fears and hidden guilts.
WHAT exactly is the feared threat that you advocate the imposition of face covering to protect against? Nothing! But the opportunity for masking in virtue is a bandwagon effect by which to seem to pass off as ‘kind or considerate’ – but more practically – masked off from exposure as a granny killer, in selfish disregard for the weak and the vulnerable.
In these Orwellian times – “Everything is BACKWARDS” – Lockdown is a rabid reaction to fear.
The antidote to the ‘plague’ is honesty.
Thank you for your comments on mask wearing. This seems to me to be a first in that the healthy people are to wear masks. Back in the day it was the sick person who had to wear a mask and/or be quarantined. Not well people. I think the mask instills fear and prevents normal human contact
If it were 1918 again – in terms of deaths – then like them I can see that ANYTHING would be resorted to in hope of protection – often to worse outcomes. Masks were mandated then – in many places but had no effect on whether or not you sickened. I have written before on other potential causes and exacerbations of what is now called 1919 or Spanish flu. By the way Spain was neutral and not as subject to propaganda control and so the news of the disease leaked there first.
Today is very different. The reasoned or common sense basis for masking – and most else in the lockdown measures is lacking, and the insistence via shaming ‘guidances’ or insane and heartless and economically destructive regulations, makes them more about political control and any shifting narrative deceits to keep the programme on course no matter what.
I have come to accept that contagion has been used often as a cover story for toxicity, such as to become so embedded in our mind as to be a switch that Dr WHO can turn on and off at will.
A virus culture does not replicate in healthy cells. To get them to be receptive to ‘viral samples’ the cells are stressed or toxified first. Then the cells show abnormalities or die off and that is taken as proof the ‘virus’ is active and causes disease. I think there is a good parallel in susceptibility to fear as deceit. Not everyone has the required back-door or receptors and the installed programs for it to run on. But if we do – we have an educative process in locating our ‘back doors’. Fool me twice – shame on me.
Mary’s point about healthy people wearing masks appears to miss half the issue.
The only reason for people KNOWN not to have Covid-19 to wear masks would be to protect themselves. Which should be their choice.
But how many actually know beyond all doubt that they do not have Covid-19?
(There is a subsidiary issue that any form of finer grained management with a heterogenous population of people who have never had it, currently have it, and have had it – assuming some immunity – would be, to all intents and purposes, impossible.)
Doesn’t matter whether you have IT or not. All the scientific studies on masks suggest that they have next to no effect on transmission of viruses. Some types stop transmission of bacteria and most probably stop major air pollution; but not viruses
Yes!
An absolutely clear-eyed observation.
An absolutely critical observation to ponder clear-headedly in today’s contentious atmosphere.
Here is a study showing larger doses required by overweight individuals to reach the same blood serum levels. The quoted numbers are average values so individual variation will occur but they certainly give you pause to consider how wrong the information is that public health departments are still providing years after the errors in the earlier studies have been pointed out.
6000IU = 150ug healthy adult
7000IU = 175ug overweight adult
8000IU = 200ug obese adult
To reach natural blood serum levels of 25(OH)D of 100nmol/l (40ng/ml)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28458767/
I had been thinking about the ubiquity of statin treatment as a variable in this whole thing. If Vitamin D is protective against infection and protective of endothelial cells once infected, and “Cholesterol is also the precursor of vitamin D, which plays an essential role in the control of calcium and phosphorus metabolism. 7-Dehydrocholesterol (provitamin D3) is photolyzed by the ultraviolet light of sunlight to previtamin D3, which spontaneously isomerizes to vitamin D3 (Figure 26.29) NCBI”, well where does that put us? It seems like adding in sunscreen and general avoidance of outdoor light makes the perfect recipe for low Vitamin D levels. “Vitamin D is linked to cholesterol because we need cholesterol in our skins cells to make vitamin D from sunlight. The vitamin D is later transformed again in the liver and kidneys, but cholesterol is needed for the first step. (Heart UK).”
Is it best as a tablet or a soft gel. My four years nephew has leukaemia and I thinking he is lacking vd3 because he isn’t allowed out and because of the chemo. How much should he take.
You can buy kiddie d3 meds otc biddy99 it would prob be easier for him if you bought the better you sublingual spray ,it by passes the liver and won’t put so much strain on his body,buy in good health food stores.
Good luck.jeanie
Or get it from Amazon
Thanks. Just googled this. Seems the recommend 15ml one spray. Is that enough. If he lets us spray into his mouth
have a google at the DLux junior vitamin D oral spray that is suitable for children 3 years and over 400IU of vitamin D daily in one spray much easier than tablets.
Thanks will do
A 4 year old weighs about 8 kg.
If an adult is advised to take 5000 IU/d and weighs 64 kg, this 4 year old could take (8/64)*5000 = 625 IU/day.
Especially during the first week or 2 I would build up the vitamin D level in the body by giving 2 x 400 IU/d, then if you want to go back to the ‘right’ dose you could give 1 dose everyday plus 1 additional dose every other day, or Mo-We-Fr.
Don’t be afraid to overdose, one hour in the sun at the right latitude generates a multiple of 400 IU already and is ‘generally well tolerated’.
There’s been an article in which people took 50,000 IU/day[1].
With these levels of vit D intake there are some requirements however: take vit K2 supplements and NO calcium supplements.
There are charts that show how much vitamin D3 is generated from sunlight[2].
The most part of Europe has UV index = 2, while Southern Europe (Spain, Portugal, Italy) has UV index = 3[3].
[1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322071346_Enhanced_Growth_of_the_Adult_Penis_With_Vitamin_D_3
[2] https://vitamindwiki.com/dl2105?display
[3] https://www.who.int/uv/publications/en/UVIclip.pdf?ua=1
Hi this is out of stock everywhere. Any recommendations for an alternative. Thanks
Softgels are better than tablets – they have far fewer ingredients in – the best kind contain just the capsule shell, olive oil and vitamin D3.
I suspect kiddie vitamins will contain very low doses. There is a big array of vitamin D3 supplements available online without prescription with doses from 200 iU up to 10,000 iU. Buying kiddie ones will restrict your choice enormously.
Dr. Clark vit D3, 1000IU in one drop. Amazon. Advised by my doctor.
Puritans Pride at http://www.puritan.com is an excellent source for all vitamin needs.
Not for vitamin B6. Puritan’s Pride own-brand contains pyrixodine hydrochloride. I quote:
“The inactive form pyridoxine competitively inhibits the active pyridoxal-5′-phosphate. Consequently, symptoms of vitamin B6 supplementation are similar to those of vitamin B6 deficiency.”
10.1016/j.tiv.2017.07.009
Puritan’s Pride
Vitamin B-6 (Pyridoxine Hydrochloride) 100 mg
Item #000650
Maybe also have a look at Feihe International, Inc who appear to be the brand’s current owners.
I buy mine from Metabolics, good quality products Vit d3 400iu, if easier to take you could buy Liposomal vit D 3/K2 from Epigenetics, which is just one drop a day perhaps put in a little water? I’d suggest calling these companies as they will be able to give good advice re dosage and if they feel appropriate for him, I am only giving info from my personal experience I am not a practitioner
I’m also having cancer treatment and get out in the sun every day, even just a walk round the block with my dog and go in garden
Best to test first as dosing for adults is based on levels. http://www.grassrootshealth.net maybe able to help if you drop them an e-mail. The lady who created the website is a breast cancer survivor – Carol. Lots of good research there too. Best read on a PC.
Well, cholesterol is needed to synthesise UVB rays, so lowering cholesterol with statins is counterproductive. Secondly, using sunscreen and/or staying out of the sun means no vitamin D. The accepted wisdom of the lethality of sun exposure and the necessity of statins are killing us.
I take a total of 5000 to 6000 IU of Vit. D3 every day, spread out over 3 meals. I also buy http://www.lifeextension.com Male Panel Blood Test once and now twice a year. You should know what, and how much is in your blood, not just how much you put in your mouth. Mine is ~ 55 ng/mL which is just about optimum. Less than 30 ng/mL is not good. This blood test is on sale now. It also has many, many other tests as well.
Stan Brown
My understanding is we have to take K2 with D3 (Vitamin D3 ensures that calcium is absorbed easily and K2 (MK-7) activates the protein, osteocalcin, which integrates calcium into bone. Without D3 and K2, calcium cannot do its job effectively. Vitamin K2 (MK-7) activates matrix GLA protein (MGP) to bind excess calcium and promote arterial flow and flexibility. betteryou.com). I take 2000 iu D3 and 90mcg K2 per day.
So this could offer one explanation for the higher levels of infection and mortality seen in cities, where daily exposure to sunlight is far lower than in less urban areas, and in care homes whose residents similarly have far less time outdoors as well as being more sedentary and often suffering one or more co-morbidities? As a qualified and practising herbalist I find myself frequently advising about dietary requirements and Vit D is part of my overall strategy. Thank you for this interesting and encouraging article.
This may also explain why certain ethnicities are at higher risk than others. Certainly people from the Indian sub continent have a higher risk of vitamin D deficiency as they have difficulty in metabolising vitamin D from sunlight.
Thank you
Malcolm
The data on seasonal D3 variation refers to 1958, it’s likely that if repeated today the levels will be much lower!
Neil
I think it was 1958 DOB?
Indeed
There have been other interesting birth-cohort studies. One study done in Finland from 1966 to 1997 that was published in 2001 was mentioned in the great paper on deficiency.
“Children in Finland who received 50ug (2000IU) of Vitamin-D/day during their first year of life and followed for 31 years were found to have a 78 percent reduced risk of developing type 1 diabetes.31”
From: The Vitamin-D Deficiency Pandemic: a Forgotten Hormone Important for Health – Michael F. Holick, 2001
KalleMP, is that a relative or an absolute risk figure? Relative figures are notoriously misleading, often the absolute risk indicates it is difficult to draw conclusions.
Is it best to take it in tablet or soft gel. My four year old nephew has leukaemia and I think he is lacking this because he cannot go in the sun and because of the chemo. How much should he take.
Eric Darwin
I have been telling friends about the benefits of Vitamin D for years – it is good to hear it making more impact now. Dr Coimbra has been using high doses of Vitamin D for 20 years to treat autoimmune diseases with a 95% success rate.
Thank you for all your good work, Dr Kendrick. Keep well.
As always food for thought. Thank you for sharing this with us. May I ask, you say 4000 units a day of D3 , how does that equate with μg please.
Using the following link :
https://www.grassrootshealth.net/project/mcg-iu-converter/
4000 iU is equivalent to 100mcg
Many thanks
I’ve been using NOW (US made?) vit D3/K2, which is, D3 1,000 IU and K2 45mcg.
100
100 ug
Georgina Wrelton: One IU (International Unit) of (both D2 and D3) equals 0.025 µg, so 4,000 IU equals 100 µg. The supplement we take lists both: 125 mcg (5,000 IU), and it calls this 625% 0f Daily Value (U.S.). So the U.S. daily value is considered to be 800. Ridiculous and confusing to have two different ways of describing quantity, and two different ways of abbreviating microgram, but then here in the U.S. we use both the English system and the metric system, and in Japan, woodworkers have three different measurement systems to use.
What’s the third? Do I want to know?
chris c: The third what?
“in Japan, woodworkers have three different measurement systems to use.”
don’t worry, just being silly, it takes my mind off the lockdown
Hi,
Rather than input the conversion here and possibly be wrong, here is the website that will convert for you : )
http://www.nafwa.org/vitamind.php
It works out at 100mcg
1 IU of Vitamin D3 equals 0.025 micrograms. 4,000 units will be 100 micrograms.
And maybe high death rates in care homes could also be partly due to low Vit D? As residents rarely go outside, unless they are taking supplements, their vit D levels are likely to be very low.
When my late mother-in-law was in a care home with dementia, we visited on a lovely sunny day and found almost all the residents indoors. We asked if we could take her outside, which we did, and the care assistant tried to smother her in sun block. We explained that she should be out there for 10 minutes without any sun screen and her arms, at least, exposed to try and allow for some vitamin D production (although it doesn’t work too well in the elderly anyway, for some reason…statins?) The care assistant was very reluctant to ‘allow’ this, saying that they were told to use this sun screen cream all the time.
That is so sad, to say nothing of completely wrongheaded – and the irony is that with the lockdown, in many places people have been instructed to stay indoors when what they probably need is more sunlight!
Where I live, the city has poured sand into a local skate park because warning signs and taping it off didn’t deter all the young people from using it. Now they can’t use it so they are prevented from being outside in the sun, getting fresh air, doing an exercise they enjoy. Even the tennis courts next to it are taped off.
They did that in Los Angeles as well – do you live in the UK? You do have to wonder at all these policies, exactly the same the world over. Like the clapping. Every country is coming out and clapping once a week. I wonder if all these diktats are coming down from the WHO? It’s actually criminal what they are doing in my opinion. They are weakening people’s immune systems, making them more depressed, and more prone to illness. The whole thing is a ticking time bomb.
‘Treatment’ of previous plagues – Spanish “flu” – showed benefits of being in a well-ventilated environment if indoors, or outdoors in FRESH air, and sunlight.
Northern Italy is the most air polluted area in Europe, Wuhan has had demonstrations about air pollution, and no prizes for guessing air quality in New York City…
Same for sun exposure. Add metabolic mayhem from eating lots of ‘manufactured’ carbohydrate-loaded foods… Why are we surprised ?
So then, as the good doctors in the video someone posted a few days ago said, this lockdown will delay the normal resistance to colds and flu that begins around April.
I am wondering if we are all UV light deficient. I get sensible light exposure without spectacles.
Un-expected (un-FORSEEN?) consequences of blndly accepting popular memes… If ages 87 or so, I’d be totally unworried about the faint possibility of sunlight causing a Malignant Melanoma..taking half a dozen or more years to do it’s damage. I’d be long gone by then !
I think the care home staff were more concerned with avoiding sunburn in their residents than skin cancer…
Is there not the potential for Vitamin D to increase ACE2, and in-turn one’s likelihood of getting COVI-19? Just a balancing act that’s been playing on my mind… Any thoughts?
Apparently not – see this from Dr Rhonda Patrick “The acute lung injury led to a decrease in ACE2, driving even worse lung injury. Vitamin D supplementation increased ACE2 receptor levels, but only in conditions of acute lung injury where ACE2 levels decreased. When vitamin D was given to control animals, it didn’t increase ACE2 levels. This means that vitamin D normalizes ACE2 levels in situations only where it is decreased.”
Love the YouTube ding-dong between Rhoda Patrick and Chris Masterjohn on the subject of Vit D supplementation and covid-19. Chris sees Vit D3 increasing the level of ACE2 and thus increase the likelihood of increased opportunities for Covid-19 to infect cells. However, a more nuanced biochemical analysis by MedCram “Coronavirus Pandemic Update 37” shows that ACE2 levels are crucial in keeping angiotensin II levels low . . . thus controlling epithelial inflammation and reduction of vasoconstriction and as such can be beneficial.
(Have to give a shout-out to MedCram)
I used to follow Chris Masterjohn but he then lost his way and well sold himself out. He kept reccomending supplements to buy etc……and to cap it all he insulted our own Malcolm in an article a few years back. Just saying.
Adam: That’s right. And still recommending that rancid cod liver oil. I don’t read him much any more. As for selling products, that’s how he makes his living, so I can’t fault him for that.
He did? Sacrilege!
I stopped reading him because, well I got bored. Other authorities don’t have that effect, like Malcolm and Mike Eades. The latter has been blogging again after a long hiatus.
Agreed, MedCram is fantastic!
re Vitamin D and COVID-19…does this Vitamin D science explain why children are so immune to COVID effects? Are other protective pathways at play in younger cohorts?
My FMD has me on 4,000 IU/day as well.
Another great article. I take Vitamin D3 daily, 5,000 iu a day – frowned upon by my GP. I also take 500 mcg Vitamin K2 (Mk 7) and 500 Mg of Magnesium Glycinate. What are your thoughts on this combination.
I am not a doctor nor medically qualified.
However I was impressed by reading Dr. Kate Rheaume Bleue’s book “Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox: How a Little-Known Vitamin Could Save Your Life”.
She argues that Vitamin D alone may possibly cause harmful side effects in some people at least, unless accompanied by Vitamin K2. To quote from the Amazon blurb:
‘While millions of people take calcium and Vitamin D supplements thinking they re helping their bones, the truth is, without the addition of Vitamin K2, such a health regimen could prove dangerous. Without Vitamin K2, the body cannot direct calcium to the bones where it s needed; instead, the calcium resides in soft tissue (like the arteries) leading to a combination of osteoporosis and atherosclerosis, or the dreaded “calcium paradox.”‘
Having tried to inform myself about this complicated and little-understood subject, I now take Vitamin D3, Vitamin K2, and magnesium. As our diet includes plenty of calcium, I don’t supplement with it but do regularly eat liver and chocolate for Vitamin A, which works with Vitamin D in some ways.
I hope that’s helpful; but of course you should do your own research, take qualified advice, and make up your own mind.
Tom Walsh,
Absolutely, I agree, I take D3, K2 (MK4 + 7), Mag to protect arteries (calcification) and immune system and all the other lovely things that D3 is responsible for.
My understanding is that vitamin D has a cofactor and that is magnesium. K2 is fine to take with it but not essential, although K2 will direct calcium into the bones. Calcium will rise because of the additional D. I also believe anything under 20K units of D is ok, I take 10 myself, because if you stand in the midday sun with little clothes on during the summer for 20-30 minutes, you will get 20K units. There is a shut off mechanism in our body but not from supplements. Of course it’s best to test what your level is.
Ellifeld, Moi, near- starkers in the back-yard shrubbery.? – Have pity on my neighbors !
That’s what I wanted to know: How long in bright sunshine does it take to get an appropriate daily dose? 20 minutes gardening without a shirt on is not a problem – for me, at least. Thank you.
K2 IS essential if you do not want to get kidney stones. PS. And the amount of D3 your (indecently exposed) body will produce depends also on your skin color, the latitude and pollution level in your area.
Interesting: a GP at a different practice to my current one, was the first to recommend VitD/K2, this after urging me to get my vitamin levels checked, and my current GP also recommends that I keep a check on my B12 levels. As the Dr says, for some strange (or maybe not) reason, western medicos have a real thing about vitamins and I don’t understand the logic.
Okay, ideally I should get all the right vits and minerals via what I eat but given as modern [sic] industrial farming as depleted most vegetables of the necessary chemicals (I read somewhere that as much as 40% lower!), what choice do we have?
I’m also confused by the idea that somehow vitamins in pills are not effective. How does this work? Are the vits not what they’re advertised as? Why should vitamins as supplements not work the same way as those ’embedded’ in food?
A lot of the supplements produced by Cytoplan are ‘food state’, grown hydroponically on a kind of ‘brassica’ – which is said to make them more bioavailable
They don’t always work the same way in pills, as they do in food, if I understand correctly. But it’s true that foods are depleted and people are deficient and probably need to supplement
Your a very wise man Dr K and I so wish we could have our old school doctors back again ,they looked at us as a whole person not next in queue. We are on vit d3/k2 sublingual spray and I’ve now managed to get a loading dose of b12 injections,6, as I’m b12 deficient according to mma test but more importantly according to my symtoms.by day 3 of my previous injection I’m so ill again with neuro symtoms feet on fire and pins and needles dizziness and nausea amongst other things and yet they are now taking these life saving injections away from most of the u.k and using Covid19 as an excuse,we can easily be taught to self inject ,most of us patients have already bought the stuff to do this but what about the poor buggers who are deprived of a 90 pence injection that can kill us over an agonising period of time.They don’t have the finances to be able to save their own lives and the nhs can provide this for so little,we have after all paid into the system.we are now being told to buy supplements otc ourselves but our bodies can’t use them we don’t have the intrinsic factors necessary to process it that’s why we need injections without them the b12 can’t get into our cells it just floats around in the blood so tablets are useless for most of us.
It’s the same with vit d I was so deficient and had to do private blood tests to be able to put up a good argument to get the life changing vitamin dosage I needed ,I was then told after the loading dose to buy my own over the counter if I thought I needed it!
I totally agree with you get your vitamin levels optimised then you have more ammo to fight off most things.
Well said Dr K x
Hi, where do you get your D3/K2 sublingual spray from, I can’t seem to get it anywhere?
I was getting it from amazon but can’t see it online they must be out of stock.you could try Holland and Barrat they are always that but more expensive but needs must,This is now the right time of the year to get it naturally from the sun so if you can try and get out and expose as much skin as you can for 15-20 mins the body will take up what it needs.
That may not be a bad thing, isn’t the prescribed vitamin D actually D2?
Maybe locking old people up in a home with very little sunlight might not be the best thing to be doing then.
And of course ordering everyone else to stay indoors except for one hour a day…
I don’t listen to anything the government say. I despair over the blind obedience of the UK population as well. Since when did we all have to obey anyone telling us when we are ‘allowed’ to go out? I go out about 4 times a day and I am nowhere near anyone, so hardly any danger. I am sure my immune system is doing just great. I have a spaniel and he would not be a happy dog if we only went out once. If you read the coronavirus regulations, it does not say anything anywhere about going out once. The government has just made this up, and the police are now enforcing these made up statements as if they were law, when the actual coronavirus regulations are in fact public health guidelines.
https://tommorris.org/posts/2020/thats-not-what-the-law-says/
Jill, thanks so much for that link.
“If someone wished to be very pedantic, a person (let’s use the traditional nomenclature of cryptographers) called Alice could pay her friend Bob £1 to bring her an exciting textbook on elliptic curve cryptography sitting on Bob’s bookshelf, and lend it to her for the duration of the COVID-19 lockdown. This is a legally binding contract. Bob driving to Alice’s house to deliver it amounts to his performance of a legal duty.
The government have, by including subparagraph (2)(h) in Regulation 6 made it so Bob can leave the house since fulfilling a “legal obligation” amounts to a “reasonable excuse”, as the drafter of the legislation included it on the list of reasonable excuses.
Obviously, they probably don’t mean that. In which case, they should have not written it like that. Generally this is why legislation gets debated in Parliament–to stop really silly things becoming law. Oh well, nobody is perfect.”.
And then telling them they don’t need supplements, because all you need is in the food.
And then giving them junk food…
Since the start of industrial “farming” in the 1950s, it hs been shown the amounts of essential minerals in the soil have plummeted. That means that you can be eating what was a perfect complete, balanced diet in the 1930s and still be seriously deficient in minerals and vitamins.
In 1970 Adele Davis, in a chapter entitled “Which Orange – Grown Where?”, reported that some oranges that looked and tasted perfect had been found to have precsiely zero Vitamin C.
People used to be safe knowing they would get all the selenium they needed from grains. Today, a lot of soils have hardly any measurable selenium.
Scientists are familiar with the idea that “there ain’t no such thing as a free lunch”. That applies in full to the “Green Revolution”. If you take a field that used to yield one crop a year – with occasional years of lying fallow – and take two or three yields a year from it, after a few years its soil will be exhausted. The grains and plants will look OK, but analysis shows that they can be severely lacking in vital nutrients.
Similarly, almost all dairy products and meat used to contain plenty of fat-soluble vitamins (including D and K2). Today, you have to look for dairy and meat from animals allowed to graze on organic grass. It’s best in spring and autumn, and can be recognized by the distinctive deep yellow colour (without dye!) Dr Weston Price explained all this in the 1930s; you can still read his wonderful book today.
That’s why many of us have turned to supplements. We didn’t want to, but we felt we had no alternative.
Harry, they don’t ‘give them junk food’, people buy junk food. Then they eat it.
Very good point ShirleyKate. 🙂
I was talking about the elderly in the homes being given junk food. But you’re right, people buy junk food.
@ShirleyKate: Everyone buys junk narrative as identity support – and reinforces it by judging others.
Yes we junk our identity, and yet your view completely exonerates those who manipulate and feed such identities – as for example the MIC/US Gov determination to weaponise food and gain control of food supply. First in US and then globally.
‘Moral’ judgements blind us to the true contextual conditions.
The systemic pattern I see is ‘toxic debts’ dumped and divested to the population and environment – and in the individual – to their relationships and body.
We have to see the agency within its terrain – and not just focus on blocking, manipulating of suppressing the presumed independent agent, person or virus.
My posts do not get through here – but I try another route.
Yes to all.
I also suspect that “high yield” crops simply dilute the micronutrients into a larger volume of eg. wheat. Not that I eat that any more. I can remember when farmers could only dream of wheat yields of 10 tonnes/ha, now it is commonplace and a few years ago the world record was nearly twenty. Since the roots aren’t twice the size and the soil is depleted little wonder there are deficiencies.
And this may also be a cause of overeating. Lacking nutrients, the body sends out hunger signals.
‘Praise be’, as Margaret Atwood would say.
Thank you so much for bring the word vitamin to the table at last. So often dismissed and certainly not a big pharma favourite topic.
GP’s really do need to understand the role of vitamin D better. I myself had very low levels and was completely dismissed by my GP, furthermore I had pay to have the test done too!
Vitamin D as I understand it is prohormone and as we age the ability to absorb it from the sun decreases therefore making the older generation more likely to have low levels. Perhaps another part of the COVID story.
Vitamin D is really a hormone, not a vitamin.
Have you read of the work of Dr Coimbra, Dr Kendrick? I have mentioned vitamin D supplementation on the ThyroidUK website and several have responded that they cannot tolerate vitamin D supplementation; do you know why this would be?
Thank you.
Hi Dr Kenndrick, that “wheel of definitions and assessments, guidelines and recommendations” goes around all the time, and there is an enormous amount of unclarity, in definitions etc.. and if i may interject, for your consideration: Why “Vitamin D” is not a hormone, and not a synonym for 1,25-dihydroxy-vitamin D, its analogs or deltanoids: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15225841
and pdf: https://sci-hub.tw/10.1016/j.jsbmb.2004.03.037
(in light of the sudden resurgence of interest in vitamin d/covid– look to its immune-modulatory effects in RAS and also innate- defensins/cathelicidins— that is a big part of it)
I just put this out: what i wrote here is attempting to address that issue of the wheel of definitions and assessments- therefore guidelines and recommendations, that people are confounded with in looking up immune function and vitamin d: : “Focus, should be looking at immune modulation, and then that takes you to Vitamin d, it is the prime immune modulator, literally does/causes/drives/ nothing- but rather enables proper immune responses,.
CLARIFICATION _ names are important with vitamin d: The importance of using names because “Vitamin D ” is an umbrella term used for many metabolites, one has to be specific for clarity.:
Vitamin D = Cholecalciferol – the supplement/sunmade
25OHd3 = calcidiol – the test
1,25OH2d3 = calcitriol – active hormone
Simply providing one’s body with the substrate cholecalciferol, in physiologic doses according to one’s weight- 200iu/kg- will allow then all the cells of the body to further use that inert but crucial substrate to use whichever metabolite they require as the ‘entry metabolite’ into that cell according to which metabolite that cell needs, to then further metabolize it within its own cell. (autocrine/paracrine) as opposed to endocrine- which is where and how vitamin d is currently defined- and is the basis for “amounts to be taken” is in reality obligated to a very guarded, highly regulated and restricted feedback-loop of renal function requiring the interaction PTH/calcium/25OHd3- of which, for that specific system, it’s circulating level does not have to be very high, and it’s metabolite does have to have a long halflife, but other systems in our body, are responsive to cholecalciferol uptake and then further use, and that requirement is not met.
So, the simplicity of the test calcidiol 25OHd3 used currently as the gold-standard for nutritional status misses the mark by a long shot. (which as far as it’s is circulating needs and tissue specificity, can never and will never be able to reflect a “nutritional status” for vitamin d, as the testing metabolite calcidiol-25OHd is obligated to that renal feedback system, and as such, that proper assessment and testing is ignored, and as well not taken into account that different tissues have different needs of the same nutrient- all of which confluence into a range of 50ng/ml ( 125nmol/L) the test will not reflect nutrient status well- **UNLESS>> this is the caveat- that level of calcidiol 25OH is created and maintained by basically daily input (UVB+skin/ or supplemental vitamin d3 cholecalciferol 200iu/kg) that will then create the circulating level reflected by the testing metabolite calcidiol 25OHd,.
Otherwise– the test calcidiol 25OHd is simply testing that metabolite- and it has a long-circulating, particularly sensitive to its kidney uptake for calcium regulation – This is the canonical definition.
One can have a robust level of calcidiol 25OHd3 but be in a state of cellular deficiency of the parent compound cholecalciferol which is more preferential to almost all cells, because simply its halflife is about 24 hrs. so, it needs to have a steady stream of intake. (a simple concept of “basal”).
Keep in mind that vitamin d doesn’t do anything, but rather it enables. It’s lack of does however drive compensatory responses deleterious in nature to our ability to immune modulate.
UVB/heat/7-dehydrocholesterol- (7-dehydrocholesterol is the precursor in the skin cells for both cholecalciferol and cholesterol) creates cholecalciferol (exactly the same as the supplement)- its entry into our system though is different: one skin into lymph- into systemic, the other is directly fast-tracked to portal circulation. By biologic design, we create with the suns rays and heat biological metabolites, physiologic activities and the effects are wide and varied, I try hard to not pit sunshine and Vitamin d one against the other , they are two diffrent things save for one shared compound- cholecalciferol.
cholecalciferol is a mechanical conversion. The further metabolites are enzyme-dependent magnesium is used.
This is a great article explaining metabolites and dosing interval reaches past the canonical system of vitamin d definition, into the more accurate one reflecting the metabolite cholecalciferol and paracrine/autocrine: The Role of the Parent Compound Vitamin D with Respect to Metabolism and Function: Why Clinical Dose Intervals Can Affect Clinical Outcomeshttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3849670/
I have noticed that as I get older and my skin gets thicker, I can tolerate longer periods of sunbathing. In my youth I was prone to get sunburned after what always seemed like about 5 minutes – although it was probably an hour.
My grandfather, who was prone to respiratory illness, was told my a competent doctor to seek the sun as much as possible. He used to spend his holidays, and after retirement whole months, in the South of France, the Channel Islands, and the South coast of England. At 80 he was “chocolate brown all over”, and I believe this exposure to the sun may have delayed his death from cancer significantly.
Dr Malcolm Kendrick
Ever since this apparently cunning virus appeared, I’ve been beavering away asking questions.
The conclusion of which means my wife and I both take vitamin D3, 4000 IU per day.
It’s recommended by PHE, the NHS and various other publications. I’ve watched and listened to some interesting videos which explain why it might be helpful. Dr John Campbell, is well worth watching on YouTube (below)
I am left wondering why, vitamin D has never had a mention from the media, from the so-called government scientists, the government, the NHS, nor PHE?
Even if vitamin D turns out not to be implicated in this story, what harm is there in taking it?
PHE https://www.gov.uk/government/news/phe-publishes-new-advice-on-vitamin-d
NCBI https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32252338
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-d2-vs-d3#section6
I’m not a conspiracy theorist, I just think human beings get stuck with appalling cases of cognitive dissonance, some of which is deadly!
To those interested, I’d suggest having a read of – Mistakes Were Made but Not by Me (Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson). It attempts to explain why people dodge responsibility when things fall apart, why public figures are unable to own up to their mistakes etc
Cheers and thanks for your post
Oops, sorry about all the bold, thought I’d turned bold off.
The video was very informative, like so many of Dr Kendrick’s posts.
Many thanks to both of you.
Don’t. worry. Makes it easier to high-light for when I link this or refer folk to these blog comments. “Scroll down to the bold text with video”
😉
Well, cholesterol is needed to synthesise UVB rays, so lowering cholesterol with statins is counterproductive. Secondly, using sunscreen and/or staying out of the sun means no vitamin D. The accepted wisdom of the lethality of sun exposure and the necessity of statins are killing us.
Very good DR K! I’m just back from my 1 1/2 daily (lockdown) run in Epping Forest after having watched Ivor Cummins latest Vid on VitD prior, and so the timing of your latest blog was just brill! I’ve shared it with all my friends. There is no sun today here in London. Its kinda wet, but I just love running in the rain!! Thank you once again!!! Toodle pip.
Shaun, I worked with a lady who got very sunburnt sailing on a rainy day.
Jillm: Yes! UVA easily penetrates clouds, but UVB, not at all. Best to cover up when outside on a cloudy day.
Great article. Unfortunately such science is pooh-poohed by big pharma because and thereby by governmental bodies because big pharma pay lobbyists to influence government and this in turn influences our medics in those lofty towers like NHS England etc. The Orthomolecular Medicine News is a great source of information on use of vitamins to tackle viruses and in particular COVID-19
http://orthomolecular.activehosted.com/index.php?action=social&chash=f2217062e9a397a1dca429e7d70bc6ca.153&s=7854e037b3b880d2f1d71e666dd73504
Useful info. Thanks Andrew.
Dr Malcolm. Many thanks for this. It’s really great to get some informed advice on Covid 19.
Here’s another detailed analysis of vitamin D and COVID based upon the same study you refer to.
Dr Masterjohn does not recommend having a vitamin D level over 30 because it may increase the severity of COVID.
Please take a look Dr. Kendrick and respond to his recommendations.
https://chrismasterjohnphd.com/covid-19/update-on-vitamin-d-and-covid-19-using-the-first-observational-study-released
Look at the graphs, over 30ng is showing as extremely beneficial, and another post on here has a link to a great video about ACE and ACE2. Covid lowers our Vit D levels and needs boosting to counteract this lowering. If the body has no reserves to pull on then it losses the fight. Just like any war, if you run out of defenders you loose. I know who I trust.
Herb, the day I’m found dead (hopefully not for a long time if my kids have anything to say about it) it’ll be from a stroke right after having read two separate, and completely opposite recommendations from two different sources. This always happens. I’ll read how important something is, then dig in and study it to within an inch of its life, then along comes someone else who will say it’s all wrong and I should probably do just the opposite. Will there EVER be consensus on anything? Aaagh!
Amazing how much woo comes from the comments on an article satirizing woo. Only criticism is ofthe final statement: vaccines are historically not a big money maker for drug companies, which is why they don’t usually put a lot of effort into their research. Chances are that when a vaccine comes around for Covid, it will probably be widely distributed at cost.
James McCurdy: Quite the contrary. Vaccines are enormously profitable. No licensed corporation, and this includes the pharmaceutical industry, makes decisions based upon what is good for the public. They have the fiduciary duty, mandated by law, to make business decisions which potentially maximize profits. Shareholders can and do sue them for failing in this duty. Vaccines are not only enormously profitable they are de jure liability-free in the U.S., and de facto liability-free in many other places, such as the UK. Japan is an exception to this, and Merck is currently at trial in Japan over Gardasil injuries. A team led by Bobby Kennedy has filed suit against Merck alleging fraud in the trials FDA used in its licensing. Read “Doctoring Data,” then read the four Gardasil trial reports published on the CDC website. Gardasil should never have been licensed.
James, I’ve come to the point where I don’t care if they offer the vaccine for free. If there are in fact problems with the vaccines themselves (ie ingredients that may cause more harm than good) then Big Pharma knows it’ll make plenty off all the other drugs they sell for our autoimmune issues, and other side effects etc.
As for my tongue-in-cheek comment about dropping dead after reading completely opposing articles about the exact same Vitamin or drug having very different effects according to the biases of the authors, I still believe there’s a concerted effort to intentionally muddy the waters so that we don’t really know what is true or not. Just look at all the opposing studies done on foods: One shows sugar is bad, one shows it’s fine. One shows eggs are the worst thing we could consume, while one touts its powers as a superfood. Then its red wine (till we read the small print) then it’s chocolate being touted as good till we find out Mars Candy Inc. funds many of those glowing studies. That was the point I was trying to make is that there’s little consensus on anything of import, so we need to somehow figure it all out ourselves, in the end.
A stated aim of GCHQ cyber intelligence is to sow doubt, disinformation and distrust among the ‘enemy’. It’s not a new idea – but can take novel forms.
I watched a video of a conference (perhaps on the reproducibility of science – or similar) in which it was stated by the grave faced panel of speakers that about half the literature is wrong. But they don’t know which half. This is a parallel with the bankers and toxic debts that seem to be assets with complex financial instruments.
Moral integrity is self-honesty that extends as a working practical trust in listening within as well as studying without.
Something that muddies the waters is a binary mindset or either or.
The answer to ‘Is this or that good or bad for you?’, is generally – ‘it depends’.
The mind by itself cannot necessarily account for all the variables but can string together a working model. If we keep in mind it is a model then we don’t invest it with reality.
I have a sense that uncovering our own questions and following them, will unfold our own journey from which we can grow in consciousness and connection – that frames better questions and answers as expression of a more open honest and confident consciousness. Freedom from self-doubt is not fixated self-certainties – but transparency and accountability. How honest we are willing to be is interesting in the light of wanting the same from our institutions, leaders and corporates.
Opening your own relationship with our Sun, can also open knowledge that studies cannot give you. But once you have inner territory of your own experience you have a basis for recognising qualities in others. I feel that relational resonance is the core of communication.
One man’s meat is another man’s poison.
And meat like bread was much more generic for food in the past.
Sharing your meat made you … mates.
Curiously now we have trouble sharing food – a most ancient communion – because there is so much we don’t eat, cant eat or wont eat. My foreboding is that soon very many of us may be a lot less fussy.
I’m no doctor, but I think Masterjohn is just assuming that there might be an adverse effect at vit D levels over 75 nmol/l (I use English money). The vit D council and so on advise levels nearer 100. Even if ACE2 is increased (if it is) Isn’t it just as likely that those with vit D levels over 75 are completely asymptomatic or don’t get the virus and so don’t figure in the stats at all? We’ll never know.
Hi…you were banging on about D3 last year regarding heart vein functioning and the linings and from that point your two followers this end have taken the vit daily. Also at any opportunity we have exposed ourselves to the sun ( fan 200 C LOl ) and recall you saying that on the balance of probabilities it’s better to get a melanoma ( can often be treated) than risk a heart attack. I burnt myself ragged lying on a lounger in the garden last summer and became a Pimms alcoholic….lol….. Joking apart…your comments are thankfully received and appreciated. Cheers..hic.
lol
Just so. I picked up on vitamin D from the Garland brothers in the US a long time ago. As I recall, in their early years they had noted as they went from Texas to NY that diabetes rates went up. The clue was sunny Texas vs cloudy NY. Since then I have kept up D3 by food, sun & supplement. I have not had a serious bad cold in years, as well as feeling better in so many ways with blood tests to indicate that.
Its great to see you got your sense of humour (sarcasm) back and an excellent article as well. Laughter is excellent medicine as well.
I remember seeing a talk on Blood pressure at a Weston A Price conference years ago and didn’t stop laughing throughout – and funnily still remember most of the content of that brilliant talk to this day.
Keep up the excellent work. Thank you
To be fair to my GP, she tested and picked up on VitD deficiency and recommended 10000iu daily for 3 months and then retested, by which time my levels were normal, if not optimal. Have kept on with around 8000iu since. Plus Vit C and topical magnesium (some vague recollection of advice not to take magnesium with BP meds, plus it’s great on my dry skin). Could only get D3 and K2 together recently, what are benefits of K2?
I think someone has already answered this above, but K2 ‘directs’ calcium to the bones instead of soft tissues, where it can cause havoc!
From what I have gleaned, reading around this subject, K2 enables your body to direct the calcium that you absorb from your diet ( when your vitamin D levels are optimal ) to the bones and teeth rather than to your soft tissues ( i.e. heart and arteries ).
Everything I have read supports what Stephanie says. The main benefit of K2 is to prevent D and calcium from silting up your blood vessels and soft tissues, and directing meinerals to bones and teeth where they belong.
If you don’t mind the cost of a paperback, I recommend Dr. Kate Rheaume Bleue’s book “Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox: How a Little-Known Vitamin Could Save Your Life”.
Very helpful and useful article, once again. I take vitamin. D3 daily, but only 1000iu. Better up my intake I think.
Thanks for an interesting post.
So, if the vitamin D can protect the endothelial cells is it also protective for CVD?
Given that the major source of vitamin D in the population is sunlight, the recent CEBM look at latitude suggesting that it is correlated in the northern hemisphere with deaths and infection rates could be regarded as supportive of this.
An obvious question then is: has coercive lockdown encouraged more time outdoors by making people take time off work or work from home, or has it discouraged it by the lockdown restrictions?
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/effect-of-latitude-on-covid-19/
Update from Queensland, population a bit over five million. Six deaths.
Jillm: That’s a fatality rate among the population of 0.0000012. How many get struck by lightning down there? Surely it’s more than that?
Yes, you’re doing great, mate! 🙂
One point that worries me is that many people seem to assume that being out in the sunshine is enough. But of course the benefit is proportional to the area of skin you expose to the sun. Walking around fully dressed with long sleeves and a hat won’t do much good – especially as the skin of the face is rather less good at making Vitamin D.
Half an hour is enough, provided the sun is hot and high in the sky between May and September. But sunbathing is ideal; wear as little as practical – something like a swimsuit. Better still, half an hour a side. Start with 15 minutes or as long as you can manage without getting pinl or sore, and gradually increase the time.
Yet again, like clockwork, the thought occurs: but the police are preventing people from sunbathing!
It really is as if they were trying to do as much harm as possible. To give them the benefit of the doubt we must invoke Robert Conquest’s Third Law of Politics:
“The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies”.
Are the police really doing that? I had heard that in London people and police both are just beginning to ignore the restrictions.
In the light of your comment I was interested in what the current official NHS guidance is on how much sunlight exposure is needed (I’d previously looked up their vitamin D guidance in the light of Kendrick’s piece – at the moment they make no mention of vitamin D having any role in reducing viral infections and in relation specifically to covid they currently say: “There have been some news reports about vitamin D reducing the risk of coronavirus. However, there is no evidence that this is the case.”
As for sunlight, the guidance is vague because of the complexities of skin colour and individual variation, and it’s clear they are mostly concerned not to encourage sunburn and risks of skin cancer, but basically they suggest: “Most people can make enough vitamin D from being out in the sun daily for short periods with their forearms, hands or lower legs uncovered and without sunscreen from late March or early April to the end of September, especially from 11am to 3pm. It’s not known exactly how much time is needed in the sun to make enough vitamin D to meet the body’s requirements.”
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-body/how-to-get-vitamin-d-from-sunlight/
They look at vitamin D directly
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/vitamin-d-a-rapid-review-of-the-evidence-for-treatment-or-prevention-in-covid-19/
seemingly without reference to latitude.
Another latitude link
https://hectordrummond.com/2020/04/28/guest-post-simon-anthony-migration-of-infection/
As an aside…in my humble opinion, the combination of low vitamin D levels and the widespread prescribing of beta blockers is the cause of more falls and broken bones in our old folk than anything else. I use a VitcD spray every day – gets into the system better than a tablet.
Thanks doc, for making sense once again.
In the 80’s infants and toddlers with none white skin were prescribed vit A and D all year round in the Netherlands. Those with white skin were prescribed A and D during part of the year.. Nowadays not so much. It seems that common sense is not that common anymore.
My own mother, like her mother before her, gave her children one tablespoon of codliver oil (vit D) during the months that have an R in the name so from SeptembeR up til ApRil.
And now, during the covid19 panic, we are told by the Dutch government that supplementing with vit D Is woo woo science and firmly belongs in the fake news category. Oh well..
The best way to fight off any disease is a properly working immune system! A good immune system starts at birth with babies born the natural way and then being breastfed. Later on allowed to play in the dirt, play with lots of other kids, get the odd mouthful of dirt, growing up with pets, in short getting a good dose of bacteria and virusses from their surroundings.
Now with covid19 we are forced into isolation,to stay indoors, not to touch others, disinfect hands, countertops etc. thus wrecking our immune system. Being immune is a lifelong process, something you do every day by just living the normal life of a social animal interacting with our environment.
Cheerio, Yolanda
“Now with covid19 we are forced into isolation,to stay indoors, not to touch others, disinfect hands, countertops etc. thus wrecking our immune system. Being immune is a lifelong process, something you do every day by just living the normal life of a social animal interacting with our environment.” EXACTLY
Something that is pointed out toward the end of this video by Dr. Daniel Erickson of Bakersfield, CA that goes thru the scientific numbers about Chines coronavirus globally and in the United States. The scientific data reveals COVID-19 is widespread and the death rates are similar to the normal flu virus. Bird flu and the 2017-2018 U.S. flu virus were more deadly. So why have we been locked up for two months in America?
Mind you that the original, full length video of about an hour has been removed by youtube. Am I glad I always download every youtube video I watch and find interesting with youtube-dl.
Fake news. Google “Covid 19, Dr. Dan Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi briefing on the medical FACTS”
55 minute video.
In that case I must have misunderstood this tweet:
Maybe more copies have been posted?
I see the video has been taken down now. I must have been lucky to find it just as someone reposted it. So it’s true, YouTube is censoring medical information.
Harry de Boer: Yes. According to my daughter, lots of them. The elites are indeed losing the information war. They are being exposed as the bumbling fools they are.
Insofar as there are bumbling fools I suggest they are expendable ‘fronts’.
IE: after the fact incompetence draws a line with only token culpability.
As for petty regulations being used as the basis for swat teams etc to bring down anything worthy but threatening to the control of the revenue stream – that is ‘strictly legal’ while actively denying legitimate challenge. It generally works, from the POV of defending their turf – and so they don’t care that anyone thinks it stupid. They have effectively captured the regulations that the authorities operate under.
As long as authorities are willing to support thuggery, we suffer it under the law, or by the corporate compliance with powerful lobbies. NOT following orders or complying to threats and inducements can carry penalty.
Worshipping the current form of money as power is giving power to the likes of Blood and Gore to open the Gates of hell. (Ref to new documentary ‘Planet of the Humans’ and our friend Bill).
And this was the address of the video I have been watching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfLVxx_lBLU it says: “This video has been removed for violating YouTube’s Community Guidelines. And this is the filename of the video I recorded:
[user@videos dan_erickson]$ ls
‘Dr. Erickson COVID-19 Briefing-xfLVxx_lBLU.mp4’
which is the 51 minute video of the press conference.
So apparently Google did indeed remove the video.
“There is an information war going on, and we are losing that war.” — HR Clinton, in the senate
I wonder to whom Hillary was referring to
I don’t damage my hands with disinfectant, we don’t disinfect counter tops, sometimes I don’t bother washing my hands before having lunch if I have been gardening. I’m still alive.
AhNotepad: I do wash my hands after gardening simply because soil doesn’t actually taste all that great. As for disinfecting, not too much of that. Cleaning yes, disinfecting no. In the past fifteen years only two very minor illnesses, one, picked up from the cats (not bats!), in the sinuses, which resolved in 36 hours, and the other, a cold picked up from my daughter, which resolved in 48 hours. Neither of these curtailed any of my normal activities.
Gary, cats in the sinuses sounds traumatic.
The government recommends you swallow some dogs to eat them.
AhNotepad: Traumatic indeed!
Same here, but sometimes the food gets a bit gritty.
Yesterday a free “complimentary” bottle of hand sanitiser was posted through my (and presumably everyone else’s) letterbox.
It struck me that could be a perfect way to distribute covid – remember the American settlers handing out smallpox-infected blankets to the Indians?
Also buying PPE equipment from China.
Paranoid? That ship sailed long ago, It’s obvious now they ARE out to get me – well all of us.
There are a few studies on the ability of viruses to persist in the air, or on surfaces that indicate possible pathways of communication but are there any studies in actual transmission?
I would like to learn more about actual contagion rather than the fear of it given a blanket acceptance. (I don’t give it blanket acceptance).
The largest study on sexual transmission of HIV between sero-pos and neg couples found NOT ONE instance of acquiring HIV – and about a quarter said they did not use condoms. The thing is that the FEAR agenda and its leverage get ‘normalised’ into the social belief and reaction, while facts eventually stand at the door and knock to be allowed in.
Wherever there is unresolved fear, there are magical beliefs operating to mask and defend against it, which persist the fear in more complex rituals of displacement – given priority over a re-evaluation of what is actually happening. Once people have adapted to the social beliefs, they often prefer the ‘devil they know’ rather than risk exposure to change and responsibility.
As for antibacterial mindsets… Perhaps you could take your own with you. Vinegar should do it.
I resonate with the following quote:
“It may shock you to know that all the world’s bacteria have access to a single gene pool, which has provided an immense resource for adaptation, manifesting an array of breathtaking combinations and re-combinations for three billion years! Any bacterium—at any time—has the ability to use accessory genes, provided by other strains, which permits it to function in ways its own DNA may not cover. The global trading of genes through DNA re-combinations provides for almost endless adaptation possibilities. Therefore, what has been done to one has been done to all.
Widespread use of antibacterial agents is both futile and disastrous. Future life sciences and medicine will comprehend the more effective use of agents to stimulate positive adaptation of bacteria resulting in chains of supportive symbiosis. In the presence of love, these positive adaptations naturally occur. In the presence of hatred and fear, negative and resistant strains of bacteria are more likely.
Life forms are ever changing, and yet the basic chemistry of life remains the same. Do not cling to forms that are passing, but seek for an understanding of life that embraces and includes all possibilities. This is accomplished through integrating and expanding patterns and relationships. In this way, you will see God as the creative power of life. When I asked that you love one another, I was not just giving you a recipe for human fellowship. This is the doorway to life eternal.” (The Keys of Jeshua)
Oh oh Are we bringing religion in to the debate ?
The first thing to do to get healthy is to stop listening to government ‘advise’.
Examples: Vit C, D, K2, cannabis (for the Dutch).
Oh, and what about the advise to diabetics to keep eating carbohydrates…
The main difficulty with government advice is trying to work out how much it is influenced by the desire to maximize profits for their pals in business – and how much by the absolute refusal ever to consider admitting they might have been wrong.
Tom Welsh: My general rule of thumb is whatever the government says I do the opposite. Not dead yet.
Dear Dr Kendick,
Have you had a cold or flue since taking vitamin D3 ? Do you know how much vitamin D is produced by the body in 15 min of summer Sun wearing a swim suit. I am trying to work out the Sun exposure required for 4000 IU.
This is a useful calculator to use – although not everyone can produce the same amount as one another (eg age is a factor, as is being overweight etc.)
https://fastrt.nilu.no/VitD-ez_quartMED.html
“However, no-one was particularly interested in looking beyond this bare minimum, to try and establish what level of a vitamin is associated with optimal health”.
One might argue that the pharmaceutical and medical industries (as opposed to excellent individual doctors) not only have no interest in “optimal health” but are fundamentally opposed to it. There’s no money in it, and it takes away their profits.
It’s harsh, but true: no man can serve God and mammon, and no man can simultaneously be dedicated to maximinzing health and maximizing profits.
Don’t even get me started on the industrial farming business and those corporations engaged in the manufacture and marketing of “food-like substances”…
Our societies have become utterly focused on money, to the exclusion of humanity.
Turth loud and clear – thanks.
Vitamin D increases the amount of ACE2 on our cells so wouldn’t this increase our risk
of getting infected with the new coronavirus?
Answered above, and no.
Dminder is an app- no affiliation- which tracks sun elevation. Above 50 degrees elevation in the sky there is enough uvb to allow natural vit d production- unless you don’t have the genes. (It’s debatable whether 35 degrees and above is sufficient but anything below is definitely a vit d winter). Social distancing and lockdown is essential to protect our front line health workers but so is getting a sensible amount of sunlight at the right elevation, particularly if you are darker skinned. Otherwise it’s cod liver oil/ mushrooms or a vit d preparation in oil as it is fat soluble and we store it in our fat. We are used to storing it up from the summer so overdosing is not so likely although caution is always warranted. K2 is a good companion if you take calcium as it seems to help absorption into the bones.
Apparently exposing mushrooms to sunlight increases their vitamin D content, in the form of D2 – however, D3 is considered to be more ‘long-lasting’ in the body
“Social distancing and lockdown is essential to protect our front line health workers”
Oh Caroline: this is just one of the many chants of the current religion;
last year, the WHO produced this 70pg document: https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/329438/9789241516839-eng.pdf
It said then; that there was little or scientific evidence ….. to support ……. what has been inflicted this year …… how can this be.
Oft-repeated assertions are frequently mistaken for facts.
“more than 50% of the NHS’s 1.4 million employees are themselves overweight and one in four nurses are obese.”
If folks went LCHF, and ditched the carbs, that would “protect” people.
Be careful of what you declaim. History might embarrass.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52436658
Do not cite this as fake just because it’s from the Beeb.
It’s not fake (whatever that means) because it comes from the BBC. I don’t know what you mean by “declaim”, but the report is full of wishy washy messages, either from the NZ authorities or from the reporter. Basically “We have eliminated the virus, we’ll open up the economy, so you can all now still stay home, except if you want to go shopping, but forget any social contact”. See anything illogical in that?
The problem with NZ’s elimination strategy is that it even if they actually have eliminated it in the NZ population, given the infectiousness of the virus it only takes one infected person to start the whole thing all over again. They may have stopped all passenger traffic into NZ, but aircraft and ships are still landing for airfreight and seafreight because the country needs it eg petroleum fuels are imported. It only takes one asymptomatic crewman to infect NZ again.
Infection rates, in practice, are little different from flu, according to Dan Erickson, but then he talks what sounds like parts of rowing boats, (according to some).
“Social distancing and lockdown is essential to protect our front line health workers”.
As others have pointed out, that may be one reason why hospital and surgery attendance is way down. People are maintaining a social distance of several miles from the vitally important “front line health workers”, just to be on the safe side.
Odd, isn’t it, that in the ultra-scientific 21st century, patients are shunning treatment and risking death to protect doctors and nurses.
Tom, that can’t be right. I heard this morning someone on a local radio station discussing what to do about getting a painful tooth dealt with. The advisor said it might be better to soldier on and try clove oil, as going to a hospital will put them under greater strain as they are terribly busy at present. According to my understanding of the situation, someone seems to have alternative facts.
Very good friend of mine had a tooth abscess, which wouldn’t shift after two courses of ABs. Would normally have had root canal but that isn’t possible because of the dental drills causing aerosolisation of saliva, so finally managed to get to one of the London hospital emergency dental centres, where they simply removed her tooth, packed the hole and gave her more ABs to take. Took 12 minutes from start to finish. The dentist and dental nurse wore full protective gear and apparently the treatment room has to be fully cleaned between each dental patient, so they have to allow 1 hour for each patient in a treatment room, so that everything can be deep cleaned in between.
Nigella: Extraction is nearly always a better option that root canal. An implant (ceramic, not metal) is the solution to the gaping hole, but is really expensive. My two cost $6,000 each, a substantial chunk of my life savings. But I have a first-rate dentist, and they are better than the originals (sorry God). Five years of use, no problems.
Gary, I tend to agree re: root canals. My husband was supposed to have one about a year ago and he decided to do some googling to see what the consensus was (he’d already had 2 root canals a couple of decades ago and he lost both teeth, anyway. You’d be right if you guessed the dentist offered no refund for all the money spent on them, too) Now, with so much info on line, he was stunned to see that there’s a good number of dentists and former dentists that say they’re a waste of money and actually unhealthy for us to have. Of course, the official ADA and CDA stance says they’re just great. He chose not to have it and told his new dentist why and he said, “I see you’ve been doing some research on this. No problem, then. We won’t do the root canal.”
As always, people need to do their own googling and make up their own minds, especially when there are strong opinions on both sides of the debate.
Thanks for raising that – I’ve used the app and it’s good. As you say, the sun has to be high in the sky (perhaps 40 degrees above the horizon?) to be able to get uvb.
“An eighth conundrum – one not addressed by Hope-Simpson – is the surprising percentage of seronegative volunteers who either escape infection or develop only minor illness after being experimentally inoculated with a novel influenza virus.”
I have been unimpressed by the evidence in the overall research literature for vit D as the primary reason for seasonality of flu, possibly due to lack of well designed experiments (little or no money to fund these) as opposed to observational lookback studies. And still, even less impressed by evidence for all other hypotheses. I.e. I do not find evidence extant that vit D is NOT the primary cause of seasonality.
The excerpt above from 1st reference is VERY interesting (to me, anyway). I have speculated that CoVID-19 in particular, being very different from flu wrt role of humoral immune response (important for flu and unimportant for CoVID), may not generate antibodies in many immunocompetent individuals who are infected and recover (especially if they recover easily with little or no symptoms). I think that there are likely two reasons, if this is ((yet) to be proven) so:
a. SARS-CoV-2 is apparently an exceptionally weak antigen, at least wrt to humoral response/detection/specificity.
b. Humoral response appears to be relatively unnecessary for, and fairly uninvolved in, success in elimination of endogenous pathogen.
Experienced virologists seem to find this possibility remote only because it has not been verified previously for another virus. But there really has not been much study, at even this basic level, of many viruses other than flu. If one does not look, one does not find.
Another excellent and stimulating post, Dr. Kendrick.
“virologists seem to find this possibility remote” Which possibility ?
If your innate immune system is able to kick out the virus before it can penetrate your cells there’s no reason for your adaptive immune system to create antibodies.
Though I must say that I tend to wonder, after finding the same “thing” (virus?) in lots of people, most of whom are not ill, but some of whom are very ill indeed, whether the “thing” is the causal agent – on its own, at least. Could we be testing for completely the wrong thing? That would also explain a lack of antibodies in people who might be assumed to have had this “thing”.
Wow!!!
Since COVID19 hit the big time I have been trying, with my total absence of medical qualifications, to work out why some people are hit harder by it than others, especially those with ‘underlying conditions’ and the BAME community. Everything to my mind pointed to weak immunity. For many years I have been a strong advocate of aloe vera – I have seen how it can accelerate healing of all wounds, including burns, when applied superficially and how, taken internally, can see off colds and flu and on one occasion almost miraculously cured my 19 year old horse of liver disease, confounding our vet. The horse went on, being ridden, for another 10 years which was notable for a large (17 hand) horse. Aloe vera is believed by some, including me, to support/boost the immune system. There’s a great book on the use of aloe vera written by David Urch, a vet, which is our bible for animal treatment.
My wife was diagnosed as having osteopaenia 18 years ago after breaking her wrist and subsequently, after breaking a toe and fracturing her femur, with osteoporosis. The consultant who performed a second operation on the latter confirmed there was no sign of porosis and her bone was healthy, strong and normal! The reason was we had discovered a new approach to restoring bone density and strength which was a specific non-medical regime which included special exercises, diet, drinking distilled water and taking natural (algae-based) calcium tablets fortified with vitamin D. Our inspiration was an American woman, also diagnosed with osteoporosis some years ago, who developed a regime that avoided the dreadful drugs being offered. Her website is ‘Save Our Bones’. I mention these things simply because there are apparent interconnections as well as being based on challenges to conventional medical saws. Incidentally, I found you when researching statins having been recommended them by my GP. The result is, after reading your book, I binned the pills he prescribed, totally changed my diet (thanks to Zoe Harcombe), started cycling regularly and, at my current age of 75 have a typical BP of 120/78, cycle 10-20 miles a week, have reduced my weight to 13-7 from 15-7 over several years, have no known underlying health issues and feel well enough to want to stare down COVID19! My 6th grandchild was born last Friday and I want to get to know him! All this leads to my question – how do I find a trusted make of vitamin D3 please? Kind regards Mike Ramsay (retired actuary)
Someone I know of (a nutritionist) always recommends a product called “Rositas” cod liver oil capsules, but they work out pretty expensive. I use Cytoplan’s D3 which are ‘grown’ on lichen and are therefore suitable for veggies and vegans, but I always take them with something ‘fatty’ as it’s a fat-soluble ‘vitamin’
My daughter was having terrible indigestion to the point where she went to the doctor (something she’s loathe to do) Of course he prescribed some sort of antacid or something. I can’t even remember now because she never filled the script. I asked her some questions about what she’d been eating and it was a good, low carb diet, with plenty of meat, etc, but she mentioned that she had started taking fish oil again (a well known one, moderately priced, but definitely not cheap) so I started doing some reading and some believe that the vast majority of fish oils are rancid by the time they get to market, often even the ones that are refrigerated and very expensive, and apparently, it’s very difficult to find non-rancid fish oils, cod liver oil, etc.
Anyway, she stopped taking it, just to see what would happen and her indigestion disappeared completely. Now she eats sardines or mackerel and other small fish high in DHA instead, and feels much better. Just thought I’d put that out there in case anyone else experiences digestive troubles from fish oils and capsules..
Rosita pride themselves on extracting their fish oil without using heat or anything that might accelerate rancidity – but it makes their product very expensive (at least for me!) at it works out at something like £34 a month.
https://www.rositarealfoods.co.uk/ratfish-oil-10-ml.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwy6T1BRDXARIsAIqCTXr08rcPdOw95iwJKYkOssVrFqk04lR58Dj7_GfscXkWRPqn0lhH7hkaAhcyEALw_wcB
Thank you, Anglovizzera, I’ll check them out. I’m curious to see how they manage to keep it fresh even with avoiding heat, etc. Fish oil is apparently vary fragile, regardless of extraction methods, but I’ll definitely keep an open mind while looking into it. I’m far from an expert on this (or anything else for that matter..haha.) Thanks, again! 🙂
I agree about fish oil capsules. I opened a few before swallowing them (in fact didn’t swallow them!) All were rancid. We learn these things one expensive lesson at a time.
teedee126: Thanks for that. I wouldn’t advise anyone to take fish oil, or cod liver oil (although the Rosita CLO is properly manufactured and likely OK if stored properly). PUFA go rancid easily if not manufactured or stored properly. Eat fish.
So far our fish van is still coming once a week. As well as the usual salmon I had a special treat – two giant bloaters, so big they almost don’t fit in the grillpan. Somehow after eating one of them I don’t mind the fishy burps.
I also have a selection of excellent local cheeses for the K2. Probably why there was so much longevity around these parts, though maybe not for much longer.
There is no reason to think that you have to worry about ‘trusting’ a company for vitamin D. It’s a basic vitamin that endless companies carry. My only criteria is the base that is used. I would look for one that has either olive oil or MCT (coconut oil) as it’s base.
I like Premier Research Labs vitamin D.
Think they’re only the US?
Great blog – again! “Perhaps I should claim to be making a vaccine, that could earn me billions” – why not ‘vaccinate’ your patients (monthly) with vitamin D3?
Thanks, Dr. Kendrick. A fascinating paper. I, too, have been both sunning and supplementing. Feel great!
I too take 4000iu of Vit D daily along with Magnesium Ascorbate (bio-available Vit C). Some of us absorb nutrients less well than others so intestinal flora might be something to analyse. It would be a mammoth task but good to know what all the victims of Covid-19 have in common. We can’t help but wonder about population control and the role of the WHO in relation to Big Pharma and the invisible powers behind these bodies and government.
I’ve just watched a France 24 half hour piece on YouTube about artemisia which may be a treatment for Covid-19. It treats malaria effectively and appears to be well tolerated but is inexplicably listed as a dangerous substance by the WHO. Maybe because it’s cheap to grow, actually works and could bring much needed income to poor nations such as Madagascar. It’s now banned in France altogether which seems drastic action to take against a herb that, like any medicine, is only dangerous when consumed in excessive quantities.
Wow, I take artemisinin every other week as part of my anticancer regimen, and 10,ooo units of D3. Also K2.
Anna M: Please explain the role of arteminisin in your cancer therapy.
Thank you very much Dr K, I think this is priceless advice.
I have been taking D3 + K2 supplements for a couple of years, and my immune system feels bullet-proof – I encourage people to look at this excellent site, which provides lots of useful information about Vitamin D, amongst many other supplements: https://examine.com/supplements/vitamin-d/
P.S. I note that several career virus-epidemic analysts have publicly stated an expectation that Western industrialized countries (e.g. North America, Western Europe) should be at ~50% exposure by now. I presume that they are using the flu as model, primarily, since measured data for SAR-2 is very little developed yet.
The recently emergent SARS-2-specific antibody testing data in these same countries does not confirm anything close to 50%. BUT if many who have been exposed have not developed antibodies despite easily recovering (and a large # will not have been even aware of infection — that is clear already), then the 50% estimate might be closer to correct than many will conclude. And herd immunity may appear sooner rather than later (as the same epidemiologist also expect). Although the weak role of humoral response for CoVID-19 is a double-edged sword in this respect, and possibly reinfection is more likely than for flu. But even if so, innate immunity subsititutes for adaptive immunity to some extent for those who easily recover. As might cell-mediated immunity (i.e. T cells rather than B cells, which kick into action once cells are invaded).
That is why I have also suggested that cognate-antigenic vaccines may be more important and effective for CoVID-19, from a herd-immunity point of view. I think that all of the various national health officials should be focusing on this more.
Great writing on vitamin D as “medicin”!
I have been on 5000 IU daily for about ten years now. It is a rather cheap supplement.
#metoo (20 years)
Vitamin D is a lot cheaper than cytokine inhibitors such as tocilizumab, but I doubt it will be of much use once Covid-19 CSS has developed. It may though play a role in preventing CSS from developing.
If you’ve been diagnosed with COVID-19 and haven’t been taking vit D supplements, I would take 50,000 IU/day for a week. Plus 10-20 g vitamin C in small frequent doses (down-adjust if ‘bowel-intolerance’ develops).
And zinc sulfate, magnesium, selenium.
I’m not a doctor but in some miraculous way I feel this will surely help.
I can’t even begin to thank you enough for this article, Malcolm. It gave me some good chuckles in the beginning (which my immune system thanks you for) and has utterly convinced me to start taking my d3 again. I had stopped taking any supplements whatsoever, but thankfully, I had enough sense to keep taking the things you say very seriously, because I know you have a very balanced and learned perspective on these things and have helped me a great deal in the past. xo
This is additional research indicating that the ratio of Vit A to Vit D in influenza (https://www.hindawi.com/journals/isrn/2013/246737/)
Abstract: Reduced exposure to solar radiation, leading to a deficiency of vitamin D and hence impaired innate immunity, has been suggested as a trigger for influenza viral replication and as an explanation of seasonal influenza. Although this hypothesis accounts for many unexplained facts about the epidemiology of influenza, gaps remain in understanding the pathogenesis and manifestations of the disease. Several observations suggest a role for vitamin A compounds (retinoids) in the disease. This paper presents a new model of the etiopathogenesis of influenza, suggesting that host resistance and susceptibility depend importantly on the ratio of vitamin D to vitamin A activity. Retinoid concentrations within normal physiological limits appear to inhibit influenza pathogenesis whereas higher background concentrations (i.e., very low vitamin D : A ratios) increase the risk of severe complications of the disease. There is also evidence that influenza-induced or preexisting liver disease, diabetes, and obesity worsen the severity of infection, possibly via liver dysfunction and alterations in retinoid metabolism. The model could be tested by determining the presence of retinoids in the secretions of patients with influenza and by studies of retinoid profiles in patients and controls. Potential strategies for prevention and treatment are discussed.
I have been trying to get my head around the concept of ‘herd immunity’, because on the face of it each person is an individual, and if you meet the virus there is some probability P that you will come down with the disease. Yes, if most of your fellows are immune to the disease, you will be protected, because the virus particles can’t propagate, but the first time you actually meet the virus, you have that same probability P of succumbing to it.
If that were true, herd immunity would not occur until a lot of people had become sick. Therefore I wonder if this is the explanation for herd immunity:
If you take in a large number of virus particles, then the immune system can’t ramp up in time to beat the virus as it replicates in the body.
However, if you only breath in one or two virus particles, then the immune system has that bit more time to ‘realise’ what is going on and to deal with the virus before it has replicated to a dangerous level.
Again, if that is true, then we are far better off visiting supermarkets, going out in the sun, chatting to those we meet, and generally behaving in a more normal civilised way.
Does anyone know if herd immunity works that way?
That’s the principle that Dr Sarah Myhill goes by – that by stimulating one’s immune system gently you can still get some kind of immune response going, which is why she suggests using an iodised-salt pipe to ‘attack from the outside in’ (and kill off most viral particles that have been inhaled) and using high-dose vitamin C spread throughout the day to ‘attack from the inside out’ via the cells that may have been infiltrated further inside the body.
A healthy immune system plays a key role here. I can think of no better way to depress an immune system than to take away people’s financial security, imprison them in fear for 23 hours per day, while engendering even more stress via the horror stories churned out by the media.
Don’t read newspapers, don’t watch TV news, don’t listen to “important announcement(s) from the government”. I am developing an auto response when I hear them, and my finget moves swiftly to th OFF switch.
Funny that, AhNotepad; I have exactly the same reaction!
Me too!
Occasionally, I like to argue with the government announcements and berate them for their lack of common sense, logic and economic know-how. Gives me someone to talk to apart from the cat (who is probably way more intelligent)
As long as you don’t worry the cat with virus talk. Give her a little chin-tickle from me.
KJE, I feel like that from time t time, but I now generally find it stressful and nauseating to listen to government announcers spouting shite most of the time.
As the good doctor has pointed out… ‘strain’ and emotional pain is a root cause of “CVD’ / Heart Disease… the presence of which does not bode well for us when yet *anothe8 r stressor, COV is visited upon our now-damaged body.
James DownUnder: Thanks. Very important reminder. I’m coping quite well by maintaining an even sunnier-than-usual disposition, and going out more than usual, but then we don’t have the authorities spying on or harassing people like they are in some places. Mostly people seem to be pretty ho-hum. More people out and about on foot or bicycle than usual, lots of families cycling here to get the kids the hell out of the house. We are in full-bore Spring now, and the days are much too lovely to avoid.
I think you are right on both counts…sort of. Getting a tiny dose is definitely a great thing but that isn’t herd immunity, it’s just a better type of exposure. The herd immunity means enough people are immune that it doesn’t easily spread, but it does not mean that you cannot get it if you come in contact with the wrong person.
Yes but Anna, my point was that if herd immunity means getting enough immune people that you simply stop virus spread by the statistics of how hard it is to find someone that has not been infected, that would mean a lot of infection – say at least half the population, which would in turn translate into a lot of hospitalisations. There must be more to it than that!
David, would it translate to a lot of hospitalisations? Need some justification for this.
A friend who is an authority on Vitamin D supplementation of animals in captivity (not humans on lockdown, though one might argue it’s not so very different!) sent me a copy of the Grassroots article with a recommendation to follow her example and take 4000 IU per day. Which I’m now doing. I can’t help but wonder whether higher Vit D levels from more sunshine also have something to do with the supposed efficacy of the Mediterranean diet and the existence of “Blue Zones”
Is it not true that this vitamin (hormone) is made from cholesterol in your skin when it’s exposed to the sun. That’s why getting enough sunlight is very important for maintaining optimal vitamin D levels.
Yet, if they were to recommend raising D levels they would have to admit to raising cholesterol and sun exposure.
Oh what a tangled web we weave………
…and ceasing the use of cholesterol-reducing drugs like statins?
Could this be why young and middle-aged people (some who don’t even know they have the virus) are dying from strokes?
There’s been observational data from dialysis (clots blocking the machines) and heart doctors that they are seeing a higher incidence of blood clotting with Covid-19, It seems likely that is what is causing the stroke deaths, and why people with heart problems are more at risk.
“are dying from strokes?”
…… there are so many myths out there Margo; endless garbage.
“Oft-repeated claims can frequently be mistaken for facts”: Thomas Sowell.
This is another oft-repeated myth: sorry about that.
Blood clotting which cannot be countered using hi-dose of heparin has been noted in younger poeple. Seems the ‘COVID virus’ can cause clots in micro-vessels as well as larger, where they “normally” occur.
This may be interesting:- https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/faulty-blood-clotting-mechanism-may-explain-covid-19-severity#Why-hyperfibrinolysis-may-be-to-blame
And again, another “old” medication shows itself to be useful – Persantine a.k.a. dipyridamole.
Probably wont get through????
This symptom is very similar to that encountered by previous coronavirus vaccine animal experiments that had a great antibody response a similar terrible outcome on exposure to virus in the wild.
Thank you. Dr. Kendrick.
Since having a quad bypass at Xmas, I am very concerned over my health. I saw your comments and Dr john Campbell plus some eminent overseas doctors on the effects of low vitamin levels. The main one being the damage done to the gut wall by low D intake, And I have had IBS previously for 20 years, so I now take a daily dose of the following and I now feel really good and am happy to do 5 mile walks again without adverse effect. I Take. 5000 IU vitamin D3 morning and night, 75 Mg of Aspirin for blood thinning, I was taking Hawthorn berries but found I got a tight chest so went back onto the Aspirin. I take 4000mg of vitamin C I know I wee most of that out again but just for now. 500mg Echinacea, 1000mg Concentrated Fish oil and 530 mg Omega 3. I gave up all the Ramipril, Bisoprolol and the Tricagolor, as I hate chemical medications, and so far so good. I am on a one month holiday from Marine Phyto Plankton but will resume in June. So I thank you for your clarifications and updates. There is far too much scare mongering goin on.
The Covid 19 Truth will never see the light of day, especially as the waste of money on these emergency hospitals when they mostly stand Idle. I have also worked out that induced coma and respirators lead to 80% chance of death. ( My Calculation). So best to take chances of the natural High temperature fever and crossed fingers.
So keep well and all best regards.
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If you take your vitamin C spread out during the day, you won’t be ‘weeing’ most of it out. One easy way is to either use time-release supplements or dissolve ascorbic acid powder in a litre of water and drink a little throughout the day. Of course, purists will say that ‘natural’ vitamin C is best but at the moment ascorbic acid will do the job (I take 5g a day, that’s 5000mg, or a rounded teaspoon of powder)
If you dissolve your vitamin C in water prior to intake, it won’t make much difference buying timed release tablets or powder, except for the price.
‘Natural’ vitamin C is just ascorbic acid. If an animal that isn’t lacking the gene we are missing gets stressed, it produces just that: ascorbic acid, nothing else.
Granted, fruit contains more useful substances than ascorbic acid, but that has little to do with vitamin C.
Exactly – which is why I said “either” use time-release tablets “or” use ascorbic acid powder dissolved in water. I wasn’t advocating dissolving the TR tablets in water…that would be pointless!!
Good for you Vincent!
Thank you very much, Doctor Kendrick. Very good post. I learn so much here!
It has been argued that the authorities would be criminally responsible if they “allow” people to go outside and get infected. Going for the double bind, it could be argued that it is also criminal to not allow people to go outside, because sun exposure prevents infections and cures infections (because raised vitamin d production on the skin, among other effects). Therefore, the authorities have no escape. Let’s rejoice because they are going to be punished!
Just for laughs.
Add to that the fact that many black and “brown” people in the US and Canada live in northern capitals (Seattle, Chicago, Washington DC, NYC, Baltimore). They at a higher risk, but because of the foolish racism going on, the authorities cannot inform clearly to the public, compunding the risk thusly. It has been known for many years that black males living far away from the Equator parallell are at a greater risk of death by CHD. Not one peep about it!
In the last few years, very quietly, doctors have started using vitamin d to prevent disease. It has been done quietly, because big pharma revenues must not be undermined. Doctors and nurses live like prisoners trying to build a tunnel to escape a prisoner camp.
A sad truth in this age of discovery, having lived long enough (81 years), so much darkness has come to the light of day, as my grandmother taught me; “What is done in the dark, will one day come to the light of day”. Ethnic virus targeting goes way back to the 50s and earlier. But as nature is beyond man’s arrogant ignorance, once release, nature reveals man’s folly – but the results, even the most innocent die, children, that is the pain in my heart to this day.
Sir, don’t worry too much, children are barely affected by this virus.
Anonym,
Let’s rejoice because they are going to be punished!
When?
No they are going to be promoted. Lord Ferguson The Saviour, Lord Whitty, I can see it now
Dr. Kendrick, as you are obviously well aware, CoVID-19 seems to be a microvascular condition in many patients with severe complications. I wonder if it is not ALL such patients.
Data is also very early and incomplete, as you also note. CVD seems to be the #1 comorbid risk factor, and T2DM #2, excluding age.
Exponential character of risk vs. age is extraordinary, with those 80+ (in Massachusetts, USA) dominating fatalities. 80+ category includes five times more deaths than 70-79 (in my region), and 70-79 four times more than 60-69, and so forth. Almost all deaths at any age include known case comorbidities.Cardiovascular and endothelial health degrades with age, independently of aging-accelerant factors, and seems to be the most fundamental determinant of mortality in man.
All of this relates to so-called “cytokine storm” IMO. This in turn is likely generated by inadequate immune response relative to vascular function, due to inadequate cellular health (both leukocytes and epithelial tissues), especially in lung microvasculature. Immunosuppressive/antiinflammatory medications will not solve the problem in general, although some patients might “get lucky”.
Wrt role of 25-hydroxy D status, a study of relatively young and nominally healthy CoVID-19 patients might be most sensitive/specific, minimizing the larger (IMO) confounding role of cellular health in lung.
Do you think that microclotting is the key feature of CoVID-19 ARDS?
“All of this relates to so-called “cytokine storm” IMO…”
As I point out in another comment below, Ken, the fine article pointed to by Dr Kendrick includes this startling passage:
“Thus, vitamin D appears to both enhance the local capacity of the epithelium to produce endogenous antibiotics and – at the same time – dampen certain arms of the adaptive immune response, especially those responsible for the signs and symptoms of acute inflammation, such as the cytokine storms operative when influenza kills quickly”.
As the article was about flu and was published in 2008, I was surprised (to say the least) that it refers to cytokine storms as being characteristic of flu when it “kills quickly”.
Every day the gap between Covid-19 and plain vanilla flu shrinks a little further…
This is another killer quotation from the fine article:
“Over the last 20 years, why has influenza mortality in the aged not declined with increasing vaccination rates?
“Given that influenza vaccines effectively improve adaptive immunity, the most likely explanation is that the innate immunity of the aged declined over the last 20 years due to medical and governmental warnings to avoid the sun. While the young usually ignore such advice, the elderly often follow it [87, 88]. We suggest that improvements in adaptive immunity from increased vaccination of the aged are inadequate to compensate for declines in innate immunity the aged suffered over that same time”.
That’s a very good point!
Hi Ken:
“cytokine storm”; there are these sort of buzz phrases zooming around; people seem to love them;
they sort of imply our little chum the corona has mystical powers: sort of like the Sorcerer’s Apprentice. Activation of these various cascades has been talked and written about since the 1980s: it is the host, not the bug that surely matters.
what is different is; as Nina Teicholz has pointed out; is that by and large folks have followed the mad dietary guidelines, first of the USDA; then of those in the UK etc, who just parrot what the americans do.
So folks carb-load; get fat; get diabetes; get fatty liver; get heart disease; and work by Phinney and Volek shows carb-loaders have much higher levels of inflammatory markers; so rather like walking around with primed grenades, they are ready to explode when triggered.
“Do you think that microclotting is the key feature of CoVID-19 ARDS?” Who will ever know Ken, and does it matter? You can’t do anything about such things; how can we discover; we need an animal model of fatness and diabetes, with fatty liver and heart disease thrown in, to start to see why the illest in US and Europe seemed to do not so well.
“Almost all deaths at any age include known case comorbidities.” …. and to be honest Ken; we are seeing so much discussion of your wonderful impartial authorities fiddling numbers; classifying everything as corona: “fell off a stepladder? ….. well it is obviously corona … sign him up boys ..”
We can’t really be sure of any of the numbers: died of .. died with .. if you have a test, you get a positive; if you don’t test .. rhinovirus .. RSV … retrovirus …… you don’t get a result .. you find what you want ……. shove a swab up their nose as they die of pancreatic cancer; well, whadayaknow …. it’s corona. Sign em up.
Thank you! The Vit D hypothesis has been messing with my head since I saw the first BMA article about darker skinned medics being more affected – and only social determinants of health given as the reason. Couldn’t understand why medical fraternity wasn’t making the link. I found many other possible threads – eg if one looks death rates geographically – much lower in Southern hemisphere; role of Vit D in blood clotting – there are papers linking deficiency to DVT, vit D mediating immune response. I just hope medical fraternity will soon start testing the more serious hospitalised patients’ Vit D levels and supplement as necessary. Can do no harm, but it might very well help.
Yes, me too. The explanation that those ethnicities tend to live in larger family groups and therefore were more ‘exposed’ didn’t make sense as it was usually only one family member that died or had the disease knowingly.
Dr David Grimes, consultant gastroenterologist in Blackburn, has written extensively over many years about the importance of vitamin D in health, and over the past month written several posts in his blog about the importance of vitamin D against Covid-19 and why some many BAME health professionals have died, and why there is a higher percentage of BAME patients are in ICU compared to the percentage of BAME people in the population, why Somali’s in Sweden are more critically ill with Covid-10 and why so many people died in Lombardy in Italy (pollution obscuring sun and so low vitamin D levels).
http://www.drdavidgrimes.com/2020/04/vitamin-d-and-immunity-important.html
http://www.drdavidgrimes.com/2020/04/covid-19-vitamin-d-and-ethnicity.html
http://www.drdavidgrimes.com/2020/04/vitamin-d-and-doctors-in-uk-dying-from.html
Dr Grimes describes himself on Twitter thus: “physician / gastroenterologist not quite retired.maintaining an active interest in all things medical esp vitamin D and the absurdity of the cholesterol story.” !!!
Read an article, not recalling at the moment, that stated; ‘Who is dying’ of this label coronavirus. Now I’m learning it does tag the older generations, dark skin people, like myself, and Asians, this is a generation an ethnic device, not to be seen as ‘racial’ as that word carries to much baggage. Although there are obvious dark schemes as these epidemics seem to have a now traceable footprints.
Dear Doctor Kendrick, thank you, once again for being a sane voice in the wilderness and especially for speaking out against the deceit within the current narrative.
Please keep it coming! Your effort and time is hugely appreciated.
Always question ‘the narrative’. Especially where it comes from.
Yes it’s like two different planets. There’s The Narrative and then there are facts and data, obtainable currently from numerous sources
https://hectordrummond.com/
https://lockdownsceptics.org/
and even
https://www.cebm.net/oxford-covid-19-evidence-service/
Posting test!
… Great writing on vitamin D as “medicin” – preventive and clinical!
On Sulfated D3, from researcher Dr. Stephanie Seneff:
“The skin produces vitamin D3 sulfate upon exposure to sunlight, and the vitamin D3 found in breast milk is also sulfated. In light of these facts, it is quite surprising to me that so little research has been directed towards understanding what role sulfated vitamin D3 plays in the body. It is recently becoming apparent that vitamin D3 promotes a strong immune system and offers protection against cancer, yet how it achieves these benefits is not at all clear. I strongly suspect that it is vitamin D3 sulfate that carries out this aspect of vitamin D3’s positive influence. ”
http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/sulfur_obesity_alzheimers_muscle_wasting.html
Dr. K,
At about 40 min in Stephanie start talking about sulfur and glyphosate’s role in heart disease, if you are time sensitive and want to skip to this spot to verify her knowledge.
The whole video is worth watching.
Soooo much info on Vit. D, sun exposure, glyphosate poisoning, just a wealth of knowledge.
I can’t recommend watching this video enough, or any video with her, she is amazing in her research.
Locked down in Greece getting lots of natural vitamin D
Most tanned I’ve been in many years so hopefully natural vitamin D levels are high, but still taking daily supplements of D, C, and zinc and advising everyone we know to do the same.
Funnily, it’s those with most exposure to mainstream medicine who seem to be most resistant to this suggestion, even though it would appear to have no downside. Loved the subtle sarcasm of one death/year. Possibly related to injecting Dettol along with the IV vitamin C.
It would be nice to see if anyone could check vitamin C and D levels of patients, to compare those who are ill and those who are mildly or non-symptomatic. Blood will be being taken all the time a patient is in hospital to check multiple parameters. Believe me, I’m a doctor and I know how much blood and how many tests are done. Surely it would be easy to add vitamins C and D and see if there is a correlation between levels and degree of illness. Not rocket science but the resistance to anything sensible is frightening.
I note that IV vitamin C is being given in various places with significant good effect but it rarely makes headlines.
Anyway, I will continue to add to my vitamin D levels and trust that’ll stand me in good stead when I eventually contract the virus, as I’m sure we all will. We’re only delaying it by locking down.
Incidentally, am I alone in noting that the WHO says that having antibodies doesn’t necessarily mean you’re immune to Covid. The logical corollary to that is that the thousands of pregnant women who I have reassured about their immunity to rubella may not be as safe as they believe .
Or is there something about a positive serology test that I don’t know? Surely positive antibodies means immunity? That’s the whole basis of vaccination as we are constantly told.
Not an argument I want to get into.
Keep well, Malcolm. We GPs need to have something to believe in, not just Bill Gates
I find the role of the WHO highly suspicious. If I said more about the background of this Ghebreyesus this post would probably be moderated away for libel.
Thanks for the pointer to the Virology Journal article “On the epidemiology of influenza”. It is very thought-provoking.
In particular, I noticed the following passage:
“Thus, vitamin D appears to both enhance the local capacity of the epithelium to produce endogenous antibiotics and – at the same time – dampen certain arms of the adaptive immune response, especially those responsible for the signs and symptoms of acute inflammation, such as the cytokine storms operative when influenza kills quickly”.
Everything I have read about Covid-19 and cytokine storms has suggested that they are unique to this particular virus, and contribute to making it far deadlier than ordinary flu.
Imagine my surprise to find that the authors of the article describe cytokine storms as characteristic of flu!
Here is a challenge; will someone please address what we of poor/low incomes, no or very limited discretionary funds suppose to do. We are a household of three adults, 37, 66, 81 in ages, dark skinned. I (husband) expose as much skin to sunshine 15 minutes while walking the dog, eat dark leafy vegetables, citric fruits, little fish, less chicken, and know of dietary and medicinal foods such papaya fruit and leaf extract, malungay leaves for veggie and tea, camote leaves (sweet potato leaves) for veggie and tea and such. I post this hoping it to be a kick start to begin an inclusive discussion with the poor to meet this and ever evolving novel virus type epidemics. Retired and learning to survive in the Philippines. Shared in good faith (;
As far as vitamin D is concerned, you have to be in the midday sun, little clothing on, and depending on where you live you might only be able to make D in one season, summer. Vitamin D supplements are very inexpensive also.
Thanks for your reply to vitamin D concern and being advised the supplement is very inexpensive, will check it availability in my local Philippine area. Everything here is determined by availability.
Vit D isn’t that expensive. Betteryou do a 3000iu spray which is 1 spray daily and there are 100 sprays in container costing £8.45.
NMartinez, vitamin D is fat soluble. You might be getting a good range of minerals from the veggies you mention but there’s no evidence of vitamin D in your foodlist – especially if the fish is white and the chicken is naked breast.
Thanks for reply.
Cheezilla and NMartinez: High-quality food is widely available in the Philippines, in my experience, and not costly, vegetables grown in volcanic soil. I would suggest adding pork and lard. Both contain about 1 IU/g, and the pigs in the Philippines are fed coconuts, a very good thing for them to eat. Also, a wide variety of seafood. But most of all, sun exposure is crucial. Vitamin D can be made year-round in the tropics. Not too much. There is a strong prejudice in the Philippines against any and all sun exposure, yet people are outside quite a bit (more than anywhere I’ve ever seen). Now, though, it must be weird there to see empty streets, if that is the case.
If you live in the Philippines you can get free vitamin D3 from the sun. 20 minutes with bare arms and legs is sufficient for most people., if very dark skinned maybe 30 minutes. The sun is our friend but do not go out in the sun during 12 to 2 noon as the sun would burn your skin.
As an addition to your diet I would suggest eggs but don’t know how expensive they are where you live? Why do you eat not much fish and chicken? Too expensive? You need good quality protein but if fish and chicken are out of your budget try eggs and lots of them.
Cheerio, Yolanda
Hi Yolanda; I enjoy your spirited contributions.
“but do not go out in the sun during 12 to 2 noon as the sun would burn your skin.”
that may be so if you are a little pale dutchie, living in smoggy Holland; but if you are dark-skinned as Martinez would seem to be: I would say get a good tan in the midday sun!
Melanoma and all the other cancers come from sugar/ glucose and not from sun; folks can grow melanoma inside their abdomens!! Explain to me how the sun causes that!! (Yet another secret hidden from you).
Terry Wright,
Is that a “little pale” or “a little, pale Dutchie”?
The Dutch ARE the tallest people in the world
Perhaps, but my Dutch grandmother was only 5 ft 4″. OK, taller than me or my mother but not exactly tall.
Hi Terry and all,
It is only mad dogs and english men that stay out in the midday sun. Other people not so much. 😅
And who are you calling a little pale Dutchie? * walks off in a huff* 😄
Yes, it is not the sun that is causing melanoma as many are found on places where the sun don’t shine. Erm, I could have phrased that better perhaps but a chuckle a day keeps the doctor away.
I have read that on the contrary the sun helps prevent melanoma. Makes sense, doesn’t it? We are creatures of this earth, forged by evolution during eons of time and made to thrive on this earth. And we do, there are 7 billion of us so our design is a good one. OK, we are overdoing it a bit by becoming a little too succesful but mother nature knows how to solve that little problem as well. But I digress.
We are living in a society where we are constantly made afraid of that which is necessary to sustain healthy human life.
1)Cholesterol, well the doc has waxed lyrically about this for yonks so we can skip it as we all know the drill by now,: cholesterol is our friend!
2)the sun will give you skin cancer routine – which is a lie,
3)Vit D3 doesn’t help your immune system – yes, it does,
4)fat is bad – no it isn’t, you need it to stay healthy. There are 3 macro nutrients but only 2 are essential for us: fat and protein.
5) carbohydrates are essential for human health, no they are not, they are optional. Carbs are only essential for making huge profits by BigFood.
And I could go on and on about how we are lied to on a daily basis about pretty much everything, covid19 anyone?, but I won’t.
Cheerio, from a sunkissed Dutchie,
Yolanda
I eat an egg for breakfast, will do a little more eggs, fish and chicken (they have their toxins too). These foods are expensive but they are high priority in spite of cost, and I’ll get cod liver oil as suggested in comments, may look at mushrooms too (maybe). Recording details from comments; naturally.
2013 typhoon ‘Yolanda’ killed thousands here. Doing my part to keep coronavirus storm from close family damage as is possible. Thought maybe you might smile with name (Yolanda) association.
Eggs are great, they really are a superfood. Also very good is beef liver but not many people like it. Liver is also not that expensive.
In my country tinned/canned fish is not expensive. Very good is cod liver, sardines and mackerel. All very nice in a salad.
Thanks for making me laugh about a namesake.
Cheerio, Yolanda, not a typhoon
Yolanda: In the Philippines it would be pork liver; not quite as nutrient dense, and milder in flavor, but a very good food to eat. Dinaguan is a Filipino dish made with organ meat and cooked in pork blood. Yum!
To get the correct solar wavelength it is actually important to go out in the sun between 12 and 2! At that time about 10 mins is all you need. Other wavelengths can give you sunburn if you stay out too long.
I don’t feel well qualified to answer you nmartinez but being happy is important too, and you both have lovely smiley faces. The Philippines has lots of sugar, eh? – definitely something to avoid if you can!
I do avoid sugar. Thanks for your reply and to all the others too. Keeping notes on all of this. I’ll have to look into the vitamin rich foods, if there are any, and maybe cod-liver oil too. I was born 1938 and given cod-liver oil too. In those days it was normal to get measles, chicken pox, mumps, polio shots or cubes (forget which one). Vaccines have crippled natural herd immunity but has made a billionaire class to lead us into hospitals that now kill us openly – the latest news from NYC my place of birth.
Avoid the sugar. Even if you’re not overweight. That means no 3-in-1, no Milo, no Philippine bread (which seems to be soaked in sugar) and no Cola/Sprite.
Reduce the Filipino chicken and pork as they are fed a suspicious brew of manufactured food, eat more beef instead which mostly is pasture fed.
If possible eat no rice. Eat more eggs and coconut oil. Tomatoes and pitchay seem affordable too. Make them into a salad with some onion and garlic, and oil, salt, pepper, stevia–if available.
You’re on the ketogenic diet now and that’s known for improving your bio-markers, especially insulin resistance and lipid profile, quite rapidly.
Insulin resistance I think makes you also very vulnerable for this Covid thing.
If you have time listen to Ivor Cummins (‘fat emperor’) on youtube.
Sugar, soda, pork crossed off my list. Onion, garlic I love with a passion. Eggs I will have to increase eating for the time being. Thanks for your sharing comment.
My wife and I have been taking vitamin (hormone!) D2 for more than a decade, she to help prevent familial osteoporosis, I because of a cracked rib from splitting firewood due to osteopenia. Neither bone issue has progressed since.
If my wife gets that rare cold, it’s gone in three or for days.
My colds aren’t so rare and last a month or more. People respond differently I guess.
I’ve also been wondering if that daily dose of 4,000 IU might be responsible, at least in part, for my 1,640 CAC score. Yeah, I’ve been taking mag and K2 and all the other “co-factors” yer s’pose ta – from the start.
Nice to think it’s a COVID shield also. No handy way to do a formal scientific trial, though
D3 is better
Yeah, Neil. Good catch. I meant D3. D2 is the synthetic stuff
I have been sing vitamin D3 drops (in extra virgin olive oil) in the winter for several years. This year i continued to take it and I will carry on until all this is over.
Thank you
I find it hard to believe that each year the flu, which usually comes in the fall and goes thru the winter, and part of spring, is never associated with sunlight, which of course is related to vitamin D. Quite amazing that the association is ignored and only flu shots are recommended. That should tell you quite a lot about what medicine is really about.
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting – and I have been taking vitamin D for some weeks now! (I have a horrible tendency to forget that there is some in the cupboard that I have every intention of taking. But this has given me an almighty kick.)
My real reply, though, is to ask what people should do if they are intolerant to vitamin D supplementation?
They have tried D2, D3, in oil, as a tablet, medium doses, tiny doses, too scared to try big doses, with K2 and without. Tried sprays. Smeared oil from D3 capsules onto skin.
Someone I know has tried it all. And every single attempt has failed by making her feel ill.
No known kidney disease. No known issues with calcium levels.
Vitamin D intolerance seems to be ignored by all the vitamin D gurus and proponents. No-one picks up the challenge and provides an answer. About the only thing that anyone has ever suggested is getting a UV lamp (or, when the sun is out, exposing skin). Which is fine as far as it goes.
It would help just having some understanding as to what underlies this intolerance.
Has she tried butter? It’s great whizzed into black coffee using a blender – tastes like a latte.
Cheezilla: Yes! I put it, along with salt, in my bone broth, stirring a bit, and sometimes eat a whacking big chunk with a meal; goes down so smoothly. I’m capable of eating a pound of butter a week.
A regular consumer of butter.
But at 17% of daily vitamin D requirement from 100 grams of butter, it would need a huge intake to achieve good levels!
Perhaps that is part of the reason she isn’t even worse off, vitamin D-wise, than she might otherwise have been?
One possibility might magnesium deficiency as magnesium and vitamin D work together.
Has magnesium in the cupboard right now.
Taking, or not taking, magnesium appears to make little difference. Unfortunately.
I guess the Orange Man looks the way he does from sitting under a UV lamp. As for supplements making people feel ill, a lot of the cheaper ones are synthetic versions which may be something that is less tolerable? Rositas cod liver oil is made from very pure fish oils and Cytoplan’s D3 is also natural. Maybe try one of those?
When I listed what she has tried, I shortened it considerably.
Not convinced that lichen is automatically and inherently more natural than sheep lanolin exposed to light!
Trouble is, she feels terrible, very quickly, regardless the product used. If it were her fault for using a poorer quality supplement, you might expect some differences one to another?
According to Cytoplan, their vegan vitamin D3 is “derived from cholicalciferol from lichen” which is already in the D3 form. So it’s not really the same as using sheep lanolin and artificially creating vitamin D3 in that. Also, some people have a lanolin allergy which may affect them if it’s taken internally, perhaps?
Happy to believe it is not the same. But in what way? I like to understand what the differences are.
Yes, allergy to lanolin, or something commonly found in lanolin, is quite possible.
Have you tried a UV lamp ?
Yes.
It might have helped vitamin D levels but there were other issues which makes it not satisfactory.
Sensible sun seems the only effective approach until she finds something else.
This has been going on for years and years.
Everyone is an individual with completely different lifestyles. Sometimes being dehydrated affects how people respond to certain things and being dehydrated can also affect histamine response- just some ideas to consider.
Thank you, I take 10,000 IU vit D most days, but not all, and a fair amount of vit C. Your article will make me look more closely at D.
Spot on. No worries. The truth will out.
Isn’t Vitamin D is created from cholesterol so how many of those that have died were on a statin or this just more nonsense
Mark: It is indeed, that is, the vitamin D made in the skin; the molecules are nearly identical. So it would seem taking a statin must make it more difficult to maintain good vitamin D status. Stephanie Seneff has an interesting paper on her website (which I heard as a lecture) explaining the importance of this-that it is the sulfated form of vitamin D made from the sulfated form of cholesterol. The sulfate makes it both lipophilic and hydrophilic-fat soluble and water soluble, and thus more easily transported in the body.
thanks Mark; you spurred me to look up Vit D in wikipedia; it is fascinating how these articles are “cleansed”: we on this forum would all say: Vit D is made from CHOLESTEROL in the skin.
Oh no, not in wikipedia; sort of “birds and bees” stuff; there is no detail; we don’t mention that terrible word CHOLSTEROL in public; just too embarrassing.
So it would seem cholesterol goes to 7-dehydro-cholesterol and thence to Vit D: a single chain in a benzene ring is broken open in 7-DHC: and hey presto: 7-dehydro-cholesterol becomes Vit D
look mum, no hands!! ……. no atoms added or taken away ……. just cleave a benzene ring and Vit D magically appears!!
……. but DO NOT tell anyone where it comes from!! …… just keep taking the statins ….
I have thought that too Mark! I always thought that sunlight effect on the skin turned cholesterol into vit D but maybe it is not that straight forward, I don’t know.
As long as you don’t worry the cat with virus talk. Give her a little chin-tickle from me.
Posted this in the wrong place. Sorry. Unless you have a cat Mark?
How many of those who died were on a statin? Well, they’re not gonna ask that question are they? Might get the wrong answer. There’s money in them thar statins!
Mark, good point!
Some incisive thoughts on our approach to COVID by the guy who pointed out that virtually half of medical treatments/ procedures in general practice before he wrote his book were
INEFFECTIVE or HARMFUL.
So, he’s not bound up by the Establishment he works in.
(He doesn’t mention D. He talks of the importance of paying attention to alternative ideas.)
https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/27/hear-scientists-different-views-covid-19-dont-attack-them/
The book:
https://jhupbooks.press.jhu.edu/title/ending-medical-reversal
I agree with you Dr. But you do not go far enough. Regular D3 supplements of 2000-4000 IU will take several weeks to build up the needed blood levels.
Traditionally, this problem has been solved by high dose intravenous injections, up to 600,000 IU at a time. Fortunately, it has been shown that the oral route is also highly effective. High dose vitamin D therapy, termed Stoss therapy has been used, especially for old people, for a long time in some countries. It is much easier in the care homes to give one injection a year, or provide one dose of liquid each year. Others have suggested spacing this a little, such as 50,000 weekly for 6+ weeks, then a maintenance dose.
See for instance a report that Vitamin D levels can be greatly improved in as little as 3 days.
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/95/10/4771/2835274
“….In this study, we evaluated the effect of a single very large oral dose of cholecalciferol (600,000 IU) on serum levels of 25(OH)D and other calciotropic hormones in young subjects with vitamin D deficiency. Our results demonstrate that an oral dose of 600,000 IU of cholecalciferol is able to rapidly increase serum 25(OH)D levels in patients with severe vitamin D depletion. A peak of 25(OH)D concentration was already attained as soon as 3 d after vitamin D administration, probably due to the strikingly higher dose employed compared with previous reports (20). Remarkable increments of 25(OH)D serum levels were also attained at 3 days when 300,000 IU of cholecalciferol were given to elderly subjects.”
(Cipriani C et al. J Clin Endocrinol Metab, Oct 2010 95(10):4771-4777. Effect of a single oral dose of 600,000 IU of cholecalciferol on serum calciotropic hormone in young subjects with a vitamin D deficiency: A prospective intervention study)
What a great name that is, ‘calciotropic hormone’! 🙂
And yes, if you kick a system hard enough it will give a greater response.
You have made my day. I tweeted about the essence of this article about 5 days ago, even mentioning the dark skin connection and took some sneering remarks/tweets from those who seemingly trust everything to big Pharma
Well, smartersig, you go on doing what you are doing; and let them go on doing what they are doing; and see who lives longer.
You needn’t actually dance on their graves. Just read the announcement and smile gently.
Thank you Dr Kendrick. I like the book Light and Health by John N Ott very much. https://www.bookdepository.com/Health-Light-John-N-Ott/9780898040982
Thanks Dr Kendrick for the info. luckily I have been telling my wife and grown up children for a few years about getting a good amount of vit D (and all the others vits) They have slowly been upping their levels and taking my advice – getting in the sun when possible too. I also have to give credit to Dr. Michael F. Holick his videos (YouTube) first switched me on to the importance Vit D. There are many more good videos out there. Here is a starting point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP81YMvs4yI
Another great article: thank you Dr Kendrick. I have two thoughts on this. One is the regulatory restrictive advice to only spend one hour outside exercising, when sunlight does seem to be the best access to vitamin D3, especially for those who have no gardens to increase their daily exposure…. social distancing is clearly important and perhaps that is the message that should have been asserted rather than simply restrictive movement. As in other issues, we are being treated like irresponsible adults or uncontrollable children who need simple and draconian messages… don’t question, just do as we say. Secondly, Kate Rheume Bleue in her fascinating book about Vitamin K2 asserts that this vitamin, with scarce availability in our unsupplemented diets, is crucial to maximise D3, Calcium and Vitamin A. I would be very pleased to hear your views on this if you would turn your attention there, Dr Kendrick…. Please continue to keep us so entertainingly informed!
Janice Meakin: Thanks for spelling Dr. Kate’s name! I’ve written it down. I don’t have her book because I attended a full morning lecture she gave in Indianapolis.
Actually, it’s Kate Rheaume Bleue.
Someone (was it you Soul) once recommended looking at John N Ott’s work (Health and Light). Ott carried out his own home experiments with light on plants and animals and concluded that we all need the full spectrum to flourish. So when we get natural UVB light we are getting benefit from other rays too.
I’m thinking that most of us following this blog probably eat plenty of animal products, so won’t we be getting sufficient vitamin K2?
Tish: Very good question. K2 is made from K1 by bacteria in the guts of both ruminants and humans alike. It does seem all the concentrated vegetables we eat would give us sufficient K2, but I have no idea whether this is true or not. Partly it would depend upon the composition of the gut micro-biome in the humans; the cattle are probably in good shape on that score if they’re eating grass. Would be interesting to find out. I’ll have a search, once I’ve read the hundreds of comments!
Tish: Good info on K2 here:
https://www.drstevenlin.com/what-are-the-richest-food-sources-of-vitamin-k2/
I think we’re in good shape, we concentrated vegetable eaters, but get your egg yolks from the Netherlands, if possible. Chris Masterjohn has written a great deal about the metabolic inter-relationships of vitamins A,D, and K2. Worth a read. Dr. Kate, too (I am always flummoxed trying to spell her surname, but the initials are R-B). Canadian, she is. Heard her lecture in 2014, and ate some provided disgusting natto, a very rich source.
Many thanks Gary
It is my understanding that chicken, beef, eggs only are a source of vit K2 if the animal has been able to eat grass. Nowadays it’s mostly corn so I doubt their products will contain much K2.
What about deer meat? They are not primarily grass eaters but browsers, like goats.
Anna M: Indeed. It seems like leaves are chocolate cake to a deer. Last year I watched a (mule deer) doe pick up a perfectly dry, brown dogwood leaf lying in the trail and chew it up.
Organic grass-fed is best by far. Modern industrial “farming” is not just disgusting, hideously cruel and heavily polluting; it turns out meat that looks and tastes OK, but is far less healthy.
If you want chapter and verse (and have a strong stomach) read the book “Farmageddon”.
Good title, eh? Enjoy it, because there’s very little in the book to smile about.
I would like to make an analogy..
Your screen door is open…
Who can get in?
A thief who just wants to steal your TV
Think herpes virus ( cold sore)
Or…
An axe murderer who wants to kill your whole family
Think Ebola virus…
The key is to shut and lock the door..
You do this by boosting YOUR immune system.
Ionized calcium in the tissues keeps the door shut and locked..
Think Calcium Lactate
Vitamin F
Vitamin C complex
The above alerts the phagocytes to kerp the door shut…old news from a doctor they (AMA and government ) locked up on more than one occasion.
Get smart
Unfortunately there is no proof that Vitamin D supplementation protects against influenza. The data are inconsistent. Here is for exapmle bigger study showing no benefit:
Loeb, M.; Dang, A.D.; Thiem, V.D.; Thanabalan, V.; Wang, B.; Nguyen, N.B.; Tran, H.T.M.; Luong, T.M.; Singh, P.; Smieja, M.; et al. Eect of Vitamin D supplementation to reduce respiratory infections in children and adolescents in Vietnam: A randomized controlled trial. Influenza Other Respir. Viruses 2019, 13, 176–183.
Vitamin D blood concentrations are just markers of sun exposure. So most probabliy only sun is benefitial.
Maybe
I came to that conclusion but recently have rowed back from it. If as in your chart it shows blood concentrations of above 30 being protective and as it is measuring blood levels then surely it does not matter how you got to that level or it would not be as obvious a marker? But if I remember correctly it is so much easier to get mega safe doses of Vit D of over 100,000 in half an hour with plenty of skin exposed. Go figure why would we generate so much in such a short space of time, if we really did not need too? The body would have to work harder to deal with this huge inflow and the body is super efficient and would not waste energy if there was not a bloody good reason.
Go figure #body amazing 😉
Janusz, from the final line of results from your study: “When considering all respiratory viruses, including influenza, the effect of vitamin D in reducing infection was significant, HR: 0.81, 95% CI: 0.66-0.99.”
thanks Chad for spurring me to look this up: this forum is great; open access article: great, so one can read;
I was interested too in this article, looking at Vietnamese kids that
“The mean baseline serum 25- hydroxyvitamin D levels were 65.7 nmol/L and 65.2 nmol/L in the intervention and placebo groups, respectively, with an increase to 91.8 nmol/L in the vitamin D group and no increase, 64.5 nmol/L, in the placebo group.”
So if we are all talking the same units, the levels of 60) running around outdoors in the Vietnamese sunshine?
“non- influenza respiratory virus infection occurred in 146 (22.5%) in the vitamin D group and in 185 (28.5%) in the placebo group”
So some improvement there; our attention is being drawn to dark-skinned folks; in northern climes; and whether they (and the indigenous pop of those climes) are at risk.
I have no medical training – but from what I can deduce from the results of this study:
Effect of Vitamin D supplementation to reduce respiratory infections in children and adolescents in Vietnam: A randomized controlled trial.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Influenza+Other+Respir.+Viruses+2019%2C+13%2C+176%E2%80%93183.
The study says:
When considering all respiratory viruses, including influenza, the effect of vitamin D in reducing infection was significant, HR: 0.81, 95% CI: 0.66-0.99
CONCLUSION:
Vitamin D supplementation did not reduce the incidence of influenza but moderately reduced non-influenza respiratory viral infection:
My take on this result would be – Vit D wont give you immunity to an influenza virus – but will allow the correct functioning of your immune system to get on top of defeating the virus better than someone deficient in Vit D.
The upper levels of Vit D achieved in the test group – 91.8 nmol /L (36.72ng/ml) is still just below the recommended level given by:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/vitamin-d-whats-right-level-2016121910893
“2011, the respected Endocrine Society issued a report urging a much, much higher minimum blood level of vitamin D. At that time, their experts concluded: “Based on all the evidence, at a minimum, we recommend vitamin D levels of 30 ng/mL, and because of the vagaries of some of the assays, to guarantee sufficiency, we recommend between 40 and 60 ng/mL for both children and adults.”
I used the conversion table:
https://unitslab.com/node/84
Often such critical conclusions are published, but the investigations are not always done properly.
For example, one would have to take about 4000 iu of Vitamin D3 for a year or two, along with K2, magnesium and adequate dietary Vitamin A. Then you should see benefits.
But scientists often give research subjects much smaller amounts, or the wrong type (e.g. Vitamin D2), and usually alone – without the other nutrients that are synergistic.
My favourite example was given by Linus Pauling, who told about a TV interview he had with a critic who was a famous scientist. They discussed Pauling’s recommendations for Vitamin C, and the other guy said that he had tried Pauling’s recommendations and he experienced no benefits at all.
On the way out of the studio, Pauling asked the guy exactly how much Vitamin C he had taken. (Pauling recommended 6 grams/day, and much more as soon as an infection appeared).
The guy shrugged and said, “Obviously I didn’t take as much as you suggest. That would be ridiculous”.
Looking at a couple of other studies, it seems that low vitamin D is bad, adequate vitamin D is good, extra vitamin D is a waste. (But don’t ask me what an “adequate” level is.)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28719693/
Effect of High-Dose vs Standard-Dose Wintertime Vitamin D Supplementation on Viral Upper Respiratory Tract Infections in Young Healthy Children
“Conclusions and relevance: Among healthy children aged 1 to 5 years, daily administration of 2000 IU compared with 400 IU of vitamin D supplementation did not reduce overall wintertime upper respiratory tract infections. These findings do not support the routine use of high-dose vitamin D supplementation in children for the prevention of viral upper respiratory tract infections.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28202713/
Vitamin D Supplementation to Prevent Acute Respiratory Tract Infections: Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of Individual Participant Data
“Conclusions: Vitamin D supplementation was safe and it protected against acute respiratory tract infection overall. Patients who were very vitamin D deficient and those not receiving bolus doses experienced the most benefit.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31660391/
Vitamin D and Acute Respiratory Infections-The PODA Trial
“Conclusions: Vitamin D supplementation sufficient to maintain serum 25(OH)D >30 ng/mL does not prevent ARIs in older African American women. “
Adequate is a serum level of 100-150 nmol/l, according to vitamindsociety.org.
Always take 2000 IU Always!!
A very good argument for getting out in the sun or taking vitamin D supplements. Unfortunately our highly intelligent species cannot accept simple solutions. We demand a complex interaction to save us.
I have been out in the sun gardening for the past four or five weeks so it is all sweet reading.
Thank you for that. Excellent post and great positivity in these rather sombre, dreary days. Oh dear, I’m SO missing my life and at my age I can’t afford the time.
Straight to the point as always. If there is not a higher diety? Why have we all just experianced one of the best starts to spring in our life times? Clear skies, low pollution and ample UVB. A gift indeed and free.
Today I looked at my neighbour who is a gardener and in twenty years I have never seen him this tanned. Me, either when I look in the mirror! I have heard that in Africa, they have been left scratching their heads as so far they have an extremely low rate of infection, or is it due to very mild symptoms?
Love ya!
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Afifah – Don’t we all?
Excellent post thank you Dr Malcolm Kendrick
Reported in the news early today (here in Australia) “Kawasaki disease symptoms in kids in UK possibly linked to coronavirus”. I did a quick search and found numerous articles showing an association of severe Vitamin D deficiency and Kawasaki Disease. It’s troubling that kids (and everyone else) are being forced to remain indoors during this viral epidemic effectively ensuring that unless they are taking a supplement that they will likely become Vitamin D deficient.
even worse is even if the kids are allowed outside, parents are that scared of them getting skin cancer that they are plastering the kids with sun block or making them cover up!
Aha! That will never be in the mainstream media
Thank you
Hi Dr Kendrick. I am desperately trying to get to the bottom of what is going on with the law at the moment with regard to Covid-19 – I just can’t get my head around it, but perhaps you can? They appear to be removing all civil liberties if you are found to be contagious or are suspected of being so, and you don’t agree to be vaccinated when the vaccine is available? These changes were made to the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 just yesterday apparently and I have tried to read them and am still unsure how to read this? I believe in health freedom and informed consent – not mandatory vaccination. As per this article, I take 2000 IU of D3 every day – I rarely get sick with colds and flu – and that is despite having Hashi’s, Diabetes and BPPV and currently going through the menopause and having fibroids which are causing me to be borderline anaemic (I supplement with ionic iron)… a friend of mine developed *Guillain-Barré *after receiving what she believed was a tetanus booster – 10 days after being vaccinated, she was dying in hospital, and her family were told to prepare for the worst. Somehow she pulled through and is still with us, but she has not fully recovered, and as you can imagine, it has become a passion of hers to research vaccinations and their safety etc, and one of the things she discovered is that it wasn’t a tetanus booster at all that she received – it was a multi-vaccine that covered tetanus but wasn’t purely tetanus. All the things she has told me convince me that vaccinations do not necessarily provide immunity and can even cause outbreaks of the very diseases they are supposed to protect you from. I don’t think I can live in a world where these vaccinations are forced upon us against our will, denying us of our right to develop natural immunity. Please, please, please, will you investigate the law to see what the situation is? You definitely have the capacity to get to the bottom of this. Best regards, Chrissie
On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 at 14:06, Dr. Malcolm Kendrick wrote:
> Dr. Malcolm Kendrick posted: “28th April 2020 I have found, I suspect like > almost everyone else, that it is almost impossible to keep track of what is > going on with COVID. Stories swirl and multiply, and almost everyone seems > to be trying to get something out of it. People are claimi” >
Get your shirt off and mow your lawns at midday… with a hand-powered mower… twice a week. 🙂
This just in from Italy[1]: from 65,000 lupus and rheumatoid arthritis patients who use hydroxychloroquine, merely 20 persons are tested positive for covid-19.
Of those 20, nobody died or even ended up in the ICU.
French fries anyone?
[1]: https://www.iltempo.it/salute/2020/04/28/news/coronavirus-farmaci-efficaci-news-danni-cura-annalisa-chiusolo-artrite-terapia-idrossiclorochina-sars-cov2-1321227/
The main take home from the Guardian article you linked to is that “previous inequalities” and current racism are driving the morbity amoung black NHS workers. Though they’re getting closer to the cause when they say inequality has led to higher diabetes and CVD etc, all associated with death from Covid. Of course these things are also caused by vitamin D deficiency, something that could be fixed right now but the Graun would rather wait a few decades and fix the imagined ills of society. As the good Dr says nobody wants to peddle vitamins that’s just quackery.
“As the good Dr says nobody wants to peddle vitamins that’s just quackery”.
And, as Mark Twain might have added, it’s not profitable.
Tom, Gilead who make Remdisivir are supplying 5 Australian hospitals with their “Medicinal Compound”.
Praise Be ! We are almost Saved …. though the Chinese Trial is not as fulsome as the American one.
This extract from the link below (in case it won’t work for you) lets the cat out of the bag……
“…But experts have warned that the study findings are unpublished and preliminary. The US clinical trial registry also shows that Gilead altered the primary outcome measures of the trial halfway through. It broadened its definition of “recovery” and included patients who were still in hospital and who were at home but requiring oxygen in its group of recovered patients as recovered. Changing the primary outcomes of a study is often viewed by scientists with scepticism in any clinical trial, as it is often done to improve the significance of results after the initial outcomes proved disappointing. This is known as “fishing for significance”. Nine members of the US panel that establishes treatment guidelines have a financial interest in Gilead.”
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/remdesivir-five-australian-hospitals-to-receive-experimental-coronavirus-drug/ar-BB13rEjQ?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=mailsignout
Incredible
James DownUnder, there was talk that a Democratic U.S. governor was calling for an investigation by the SEC because there may have been some insider trading involving Remdesivir. The incomplete or premature “results” you referred to that were published, may have caused the stocks to rise quite conveniently for a few. One person (or small group of investors) earned a quick 285 million before things settled back down. I hope the SEC does investigate, but we’ll see. It likely depends on who was involved, with all the self-serving corruption going on right now. Even the justice system can be partisan and play favorites..
This video was mentioned on another blog; it describes the work of Ferguson in the FMD era of 2001; many in the UK remember this with much horror.
This was Ferguson then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdI2YCh0FhA&feature=youtu.be
Pray, what has changed now?
This is a very sobering video.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-youtube-coronavirus-censorship-science
I threw that link in as soon as I saw it – without explaining it too much! You Tube have pulled the video by two senior doctors – which someone posted over here – for no reason that makes any sense. The video made a strong case that the lockdown is a bad mistake – exactly what Dr Kendrick is saying.
This seems to demonstrate that the lockdown is partly being driven for political reasons. Here is another video – also from Fox News – that discusses the fact that a lot of ‘deaths from COVID-19’ are in fact deaths from other things.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-scott-jensen-cdc-coronavirus-death-guidelines
The evidence of a spike in all-cause mortality in England+Wales in the last month disproves the allegation that the CV-19 deaths are inflated, instead it seems that they’re being undercounted
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52361519
If you look at the graph labelled “Deaths well above the normal range” you can see that total deaths in 2020 were tracking at the 5-year average up to the end of March then zoomed upwards. Yes some might be due to patients not getting treated for other ailments but that hardly can account for an 80% rise in deaths.
This disease and the deaths from it are real, not a media beatup. Until they have adequate testing capability, ICU capacity & PPE supplies in place, to lift the lockdown would be catastrophic. Do you really want to be rushed to hospital with a stroke or heart attack only for there to be no free beds in the ICU?
You need to go no further than this other BBC story
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52476128
to know why Dr Erickson et al are so anxious to go back to business as usual.
“”We have seen our revenues decline by 60%, just about overnight,” says Claudio Fort, CEO of a hospital in Vermont that is losing around $8m (£6.4m) a month.”
The US private hospitals are losing income from the lockdown, but would be making making out like bandits if they were full of CV-19 patients. Follow the money.
But if there has been a spike in deaths because of the virus (and can we be sure that it’s from not with?) surely that shows that the lockdown is not working and so we should let children get an education and people earn a living before we totally destroy the economy for no gain?
The deaths lag the initial infection by several weeks so most of the people dieing in the weeks of April 10 & 17 were infected before the lockdown. That was nearly 3 weeks ago so there will have been a lot more since. The flaw in the argument that people are dieing “with CV_19” not of it is that the death toll has doubled over normal so what’s causing the excess deaths if not CV-19
From what I can gather from reading the news (I’m in Australia) the UK deaths are concentrated among healthcare staff and in care homes eg BBC report that half Scotland’s death toll is in aged care homes. This can be attributed to a lack of PPE in both the hospital system and especially in aged care homes. Add in the irresponsible policy of sending infectious CV-19 patients back to the aged care homes and it’s no wonder they’ve become hotbeds of infection. Which part of the word “quarantine” doesn’t your PM Bozo the Clown understand? The lockdown may have protected the general public but those groups are still remaining exposed.
Hi Stuart; gosh, you are getting worried;
“This disease and the deaths from it are real,” but if attempt to get things in balance Stuart;
Read some of the details here; http://inproportion2.talkigy.com it is that the BBC has never shared stuff like this before with you: back in 2018 when the flu was really bad, here is what they had on their front page then http://inproportion2.talkigy.com/inform_scare.html
“Until they have adequate testing capability, ICU capacity & PPE supplies in place, to lift the lockdown would be catastrophic.”
A little secret kept from everyone Stuart is that winter flu epidemics and corona; (just like that) produce short peaks, and then fade rapidly. Look at the Euromon data; the peaks are rapidly fading; the weather is getting better; get out in the sunshine Stuart.
“The US private hospitals are losing income from the lockdown, but would be making making out like bandits if they were full of CV-19 patients. Follow the money.”
Phew, that is all a little catty Stuart?
All businesses need to make money, are we agreed on that? Private hospitals do elective operations on people; eg cataracts, hip and knee replacements etc. They cannot do these now: folks are under house arrest; that is why the hospitals are losing money; if you feel these ops are a waste of time, please tell us.
“but would be making making out like bandits if they were full of CV-19 patients”
that is the point Stuart; hospitals in the US are largely empty it seems; Chicago hospitals are very quiet; so you seem to agree that the hospitals are empty; by saying the above; yet you hurl at us this stuff “Do you really want to be rushed to hospital .. for there to be no free beds in the ICU?”
The ICUs are not full.
“Follow the money”
You can’t use that line here Stuart; we have already been using it; we have it patented; pointing to how Gates funds Ferguson; Ferguson comes up with a model of house arrest for all for 18 months: ransom to be paid? Everyone gets vaccinated; pharma lives happily ever after. We look forward to more spirited contributions from you.
The video in question has been hosted by the not-guardian site that is trying to thwart censorship. If you haven’t listened to this video, I would greatly recommend it
Fake news. The videos are still available if you search for them. For the 55 minute version google “Covid 19, Dr. Dan Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi briefing on the medical FACTS”
Yes, that is right – I just tried it. My guess is that YouTube reversed their decision because of the bad publicity – but who knows.
You can view their video here, on Off Guardian’s website:
Hi, I posted that video on facebook……….it was blocked within a few hours, they will not allow anything that is ‘against their policy’. All media seem to be so one sided, and the voice of reason has been silenced…..except on this forum!
My vitamin d deficiency resulted I assume from avoiding the sun, which I did because sunburn hurts a lot. I have relaxed my solar defences a fair bit, but I’ll always be a burner. Boots sell 1000 units tabs 180 for 9 quid which will not break your bank.
Mark, did you try starting with really short exposure like 10 minutes? It would help to strip down as much as decent and practical, so you expose the maximum surface of skin.
If you start with 10 minutes or even less, you should gradually get a little brown and then you could start stepping up the time: just to 15 minutes, maybe 20. If you can tolerate 30 minutes on your back and then 30 on your front, you’re set!
For those with sensitive skin, the general recommendation for exposure to the sun for vitamin D production is to stop if there’s any reddening of the skin, even if it’s just after a few minutes.
Also, exposing the skin only at the times that the sun’s just high enough to produce vitamin D, which obviously varies according to the time of year and location. So, generally, as soon as the sun is about 45 degrees above the horizon (“or just when your shadow becomes shorter than your height”) is fine, rather than risking the noonday sun in the height of summer!
According to this website, I only need about 6 minutes exposure here in the UK at the moment although I’ve been out in the sun for longer as I don’t burn easily.
https://fastrt.nilu.no/VitD-ez_quartMED.html
But in any case, the body can’t make more vitamin D after 30 minutes’ exposure. Obviously the more bare skin you can expose, the better, if you have to limit your time in the sun.
Thanks for sharing this!
I have reached a compromise of almost always wearing a hat – bald heads don’t seem to learn to tan – and letting the arms and legs get it as they tan relatively painlessly since childhood. The world has to suffer my torso when I swim but otherwise it’s covered. That and supplements has put my levels in the high 70s, last time I checked. A few years ago when I was religiously slapping on factor 50 or even P20 my level was 29, in the deficiency zone. I corrected it with 6 weeks of 50,000 units a week and now maintain with my 1000 tablet once a day. I do feel better after being in the sun, it’s true.
I think I’d better cut and paste my D3 comment from yesterday on Dr Kendrick’s previous blog “the anti lock-down strategy” in case it was missed:
“Vitamin D Status and Viral Interactions…The Science”
That’s the title of episode 73 (dated 27 April) of engineer Ivor Cummins’ latest podcast – a person who needs no introduction to many of us here. Here’s the link:
https://thefatemperor.com/ep73-vitamin-d-status-and-viral-interactionsthe-science/
He looks at 2 current associational studies between vit D levels and covid 19.
Those with levels above 30 ng/mL appear to have 10x less risk of death for the infection. Possible reasons?
1 – nutrient dense food particularly animal products with vit D in them
2 – no diabetic dysfunction
3 – avoid inflammation
4 – healthy sun exposure
5 – supplements (but there’s a caveat here)
Ivor then briefly revisits his 2014 “D for debacle” vitamin D presentation.
I know we’re snowed under with comments, links to reports and viewing material but with a running time of only 17 min 25 seconds and may I suggest it is worth viewing.
Thanks for sharing. It is a very interesting discussion and an excellent presentation of the data.
It did amuse me the way that Ivor went beyond the evidence to suggest that supplementing with D3 would not necessarily lower one’s risk; and, that one should concentrate on the first four items on your list. That is probably good advice, but he is not entitled to draw that conclusion from the data he presented.
The study to which he refers corrected for age, sex and comorbidities and found that persons who are deficient in D3 are 10 times more likely to die than those with good levels of D3. The study did not concern itself with how those D3 levels were generated.
My thoughts too. It seemed like a reluctant afterthought for the sake of completeness, rather than a legitimate way for people to increase their levels. Some people for various reasons can’t always get enough sun exposure. He also mentioned a healthy diet without qualifying it.
Great stuff , Malcolm , keep em coming
Thank you as ever, for your wise and helpful counsel.
D3 supplementation: vegan/vegetarian vs sheep lanolin
I’ve noted some of the brands used by commenters and done some googling and they tend to be vegan/vegetarian based/friendly.
Two questions:
1. is there any difference in efficacy between vegetarian/vegan D3 and D3 made from sheep lanolin?
2. Any sheep lanolin D3 recommendations?
Thanks.
As a virtual recluse and actively disliking hot sunny weather, also being bad at maths, can someone please just recommend which vitamin D to buy and how many of those tablets to take? (average white female in the UK).
The Virology article you refer to has very wide implications for all infections, not just influenza, suggesting a mechanism to explain how all viral infections might become weaker over time, as happened to many childhood diseases before vaccines were available but which are now routinely vaccinated against. Any virus evolving to become more virulent would reduce the number of asymptomatic/carrier super-spreaders to be ‘re-awakened’, while less virulent strains would increase the numbers.
Dr K
All I have ever read on this blog convinced me that vitamine D is very important. I used to take Crestor, and I learnt here how the pathway for natural vitamine D is disturbed by statins. We take 4000 IUs in the winter and 2000 in the summer and this has cut down the incidence certainly of colds, and, I think of other infections. I am 80 and I see my doctor at most twice a year.
One death per year from vitamins; what a wonderful statistic!
Thank you x
Distribution of vitamin D in four population groups (group means given below):
15.0 ng/mL Non-Hispanic Blacks
19.7 ng/mL Mexican-Americans
25.9 ng/mL Non-Hispanic Whites in US population 13 and older, 2003-2006
46.1 ng/mL Traditionally-living dark-skinned individuals in equatorial Africa (estimated from 60 ppl)
https://vitamindwiki.com/Chart+of+Vitamin+D+levels+vs+race+-+April+2013
Very interesting – thanks! Those figures tend to support the standard theory that people evolved in Africa, and so had 2 million years or so to become very well adapted to those environments. Thus I would start by assuming that 46.1 ng/mL is close to the ideal for humans.
Then people migrated from Africa and soon inhabited far colder, less sunny places – Siberia, Scandinavia, Canada, even Northern China. Their skin became pale and this helped them to maintain Vitamin D levels (again based on the above figures) a little over half those of Africans.
But when dark-skinned people moved from Africa to colder countries within a few generations (or even a single lifetime), they had no time to adapt.
Hmmmm…. well I’ve been taking Vitamin D3/K2 every day for at least 15 years, maybe longer. I don’t get colds and the last time I had flu was in 1975, the year I moved to NYC and caught a really vicious local flavour that laid me out for nearly a month (much the same way coronavirus seems to do). Coincidence?
Three winters ago, here in Northern Ontario, we had a long stretch of poor weather starting in the Fall and running into mid January. It either rained or snowed so every day was overcast for over 3 months straight. We get “Lake Effect” snow off of Lake Superior and a lot of it too. Finally there was one blue sky day with temperatures at about -5 C. At this time, I was just getting into the low carb diet and was starting to practice Wim Hof breathing techniques and cold immersion to harden up for downhill skiing. So this sunny day comes at last and I went outside in a t-shirt in a nice spot outside of our office building that gets the sun and is sheltered from the wind. I stayed out for about a half hour and when I came in, I felt totally energized. I told a two of my co-workers about what I had done and they said I was glowing. Every day for the rest of the winter, I went outside at lunch time on a sunny day to charge up. My two LCHF buddies at work started doing this with me and in the summertime, we started working on getting a deep tan. Not one of us got a sunburn. One fellow is a ginger and worked outside building his house all summer with no sunburn. I go outside and get in the sun at every available opportunity. You will hear nonsense that the sun is too weak at northern latitudes to get a tan but the sun has enough strength to melt snow at -10C and for grass to grow in sheltered spots and you can tan in the winter. All you have to do is cold condition and you can expose enough skin as needed.
I start cold conditioning in the fall by taking a normal shower and follow up with a cold rinse with the cold water on full blast for 5 to 10 minutes. I go outside every lunch time for half an hour in a t-shirt unless it is raining or cold and overcast. I haven’t had a cold or flu in 3 years. A few sniffles but not enough to lose work. I also supplement 5,000 units of D3 and take Cod Liver Oil as well.
Your skin makes heat and a cold shock proteins that ramps your mitochondria up. The cold shock protein makes brown fat which is your furnace. When your muscles shiver, a hormone Irisin is produced that makes the white fat behave as brown fat. When you get cold and sun together, your body produces NO to open up the capilliaries at the skins surface to make Vit-D. I think the Hormetic shock is very therapeutic.
I believe that sunshine does far more good for us than simply build up vitamin D. There is also NO synthesis, and I am certain there are many other benefits, yet to be discovered. The sun has been up there, shining down on earth for four billion years. If you believe in evolution, you must believe that we have evolved in such a way that sunshine does us good.
“If you believe in evolution, you must believe that we have evolved in such a way that sunshine does us good.”
Not necessarily. If you believe in evolution and computer modelling and multivariate statistical analysis and the reliability of data collection and have an ego more radiant than the Sun itself, then you can preach to the whole World that the Sun is there to exterminate us and we must lockdown and kill ourselves before it gets us.
Hayek’s “Fatal conceit” concept is not just about intellectuals supporting socialism, but intellectuals in general, even those who think they can second guess Nature. The whealth, health and life of millions is at risk because a few smart guys do not know how to say “I’m sorry, I was wrong.”
Data Science is largely Mad Hatter Science. Instead of mercury poisoning data scientists have silicon poisoning. Only one possible cure: turn off the computer and go have a bare feet walk, while basking in the morning sunlight. Bring a stick and a water flask. You are welcome!
Michael Holick, the Boston University dermatologist and Vitamin D expert who advocates sensible sun exposure, says that Vitamin D is just one of a number of photoproducts produced in the skin. We don’t know what they do but it’s likely they are beneficial otherwise why would we have evolved this ability. He also points out that outdoor workers such as farmers, construction workers and seamen have historically had LOWER rates of melanoma and internal cancers than the rest of the population, indicating that D is protective against cancer. The exceptions are non-melanoma skin cancers which are easily detectable, easily treated and consequently rarely fatal. So in order to avoid fairly benign skin cancers the dermatologists by their sun-avoidance hysteria are exposing us to far more deadly cancers. Needless to say, Holick was drummed out of BU for heresy.
… Or ‘Designed’ to thrive outdoors… can’t see Adam & Eve slopping on the sunscreen as they went about their placed in the Garden to ”…dress and keep it..”
thanks Kevin; this is all very helpful. I have been intrigued also in the concept of cold water swimming; folks seem energised by that too. After going LCHF, and reading about the refined seed oils, which we gave up; I really stopped putting on sunscreen; I don’t get burnt; I just tan, if I am sensible as the tan develops.
Cold water swimming gets the body fired up working on all cylinders, fat burning, etc. I’ve been swimming regularly all year round for 3 years now and I believe my immune system is stronger for it. Love the feeling of invigoration.
Hi Terry,
I’m active outdoors all year around and I’ve found that cold conditioning gets me outside and extends both the time I can be outside and the season as well and with less bulky clothing too. I got interested in Wim Hof, the iceman, who can do amazing things but all he does is condition himself to the cold over time. He runs a winter camp clinic and in a week can condition a person to the point they can climb a mountain in winter in a T-Shirt. This is extreme but it shows how fast the human body can adapt to a wide range of temperatures. What I have found is that it takes about 5 days to adapt to weather changes but the cold showers can speed this up or keep you in winter/fall mode all year around.
I have Asthma and always caught every cold going around. After every illness it would take me 2-3 weeks after recovery to regain my conditioning to the weather. My healthiest times have always been my most active times outdoors. I prefer dry hot and dry cold but can’t tolerate damp weather. Whenever I would spend a day outside in the cold like skiing, I would need to take a hot bath or really long hot shower to thaw out.
Now that I’ve cold conditioned, I the 20-30 *C weather swings don’t bother me. I ski all day and don’t need a shower or bath to thaw out. I’ve been riding my bike all winter and started cycle commuting this week. I have a 1/2 hour ride and this morning it was -1 C.
There is a trick to get started. Run the cold water in your bathroom sink until it’s ice cold and fill it right up. Take a normal shower and at the end drop the temp down until you feel uncomfortable. This should be on the cool side of lukewarm. Now get out and dunk your face and forehead in the sink for as long as you can. Then get back in the shower and you’ll find the cool water is quite a bit warmer than when you left it. Drop the temp again and then face dunk. If you do this a few showers in a row, then you can just turn the cold water on full, blast your forehead and then enjoy the refreshing cold shower.
The only way you will know how much Vit D to take is get a Vit D blood test. I am not relying on the sun after having a sun tan in late summer and taking 2000ui Vit D3 a day for a couple of years, my blood test came back close to insufficiency for D3. I would only take a liquid D3 and with a K2 and magnesium supplement as D3 is hard to uptake.
There’s several issues about taking vitamins in general. They have been poorly studied with misleading results published in the studies and excessively lowered RDA values. There are synthetic forms, plant sourced and animal forms. Most forms have to be converted by the body to be useful. The D made by your body is the best. Usually the vitamins and minerals added to food are a marketing ploy but have little value. D2 is added to milk where D3 is the best form.
The other thing to know is what the therapeutic dose is which is many times the RDA and maintenance doses.
Dr Berg recommends a maintenance dose of D3 at 1000 IU per 25lbs with a therapeutic dose of 20,000 IU. The RDA is 300.
Here’s a recent video about D and CV19. I’ll try to find one with his dosage recommendations.
“https://youtu.be/bJqZPt_SCyA”
Kevin
You rightly highlight the problem with vitamins and supplements. The mantra that you you get all you need in a normal diet, is never based on research usually echoes stuff going back 50 years or so and certainly does not take account of alleged diminution in soils, different uptake at different ages. A lot of websites which discuss these questions are clearly wacky, so Jo public is forced back on relying on hearsay and blind trust.
He’s talking about vaccines and basically, mistakes in vaccines is ok, no ifs buts or limits to “making a mistake” even where fatalities are concerned presumably – so says World Health Organization health emergencies programme executive director Dr. Mike Ryan.
“Perfection is the enemy of the good when it comes to emergency management. If you need to be right before you move, you will never win,’
Speed trumps perfection, and the problem in society we have at the moment is everyone is afraid of making a mistake – everyone is afraid of the consequence of error. But the greatest error is not to move. The greatest error is to be paralyzed by the fear of failure”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/speed-trumps-perfection-boss-of-world-health-organisation-issues-blunt-coronavirus-warning-c-747300.amp
So he will be happy to make mistakes with his own family & friends I presume.
Safe vitamin treatment not dangerous enough?
Marika Sboros of Foodmed.Net is recommending your article, Doc: http://foodmed.net/2020/04/covid19-vitamin-d-cure-free-snake-oil/
Big Pharma has even longer tentacles than I’d previously thought and are intolerant of anyone researching vaccines or even a single element in them that could make people start to question them: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/is-pharma-censoring-the-science-at-one-major-university-by-choking-the-money-channel/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=64967e72-35b2-4852-80d9-71de0baceb01
Just had a thought, if this gathers momentum, might we possibly see Vitamin Passports, with the appointment of a national director of VIP (Vitamins in People) headed by a certain Dr K with multi million euro funding from a billionaire Vitamin messiah with a mission to have the entire world population vitaminated ?
No ? Yeah I suppose not !
The BBC has become Propaganda Central so I was surprised when they actually mentioned vitamin D.
That may have been a mistake though.
Looking at the data it is blatantly obvious that Peak Covid was reached around 8 April. I suspect the ONS or someone downstream of them held back a load of death certificates and released them all at once to generate the appearance of a spike. They held back all care home deaths and released them all at once too to make the spike look worse.
Why? Well tomorrow is review day. This gives them the excuse to keep the lockdown for another three weeks.
Maybe after the next review they may make a few concessions, like permitting shoe shops to open or something. I have no doubt that they are following Fergoid’s plan to keep us locked down until the compulsory vaccine arrives, and bugger the economy or the increasing disease and deaths from other causes. He really should have been strangled at birth. His predictions were as way out as they were for Foot and Mouth and all the other diseases he modelled, yet The Anointed don’t seem to take any notice of the fact that reality has turned out to be quite different.
People must start protesting the lockdown and police meddling for going outside. We in the US are supposed to have demonstrations / protests in every capital on May 1.
I personally hope I am paranoid, but I worry that the cabal at the top have plans for mass starvation.
I tend to agree – only I would warn that there are several things that correlate with vit-D – other photochemicals are obviously formed with sun exposure – so is it D – or some other photo product? Or some level down stream from D?
Lots of narratives about sun exposure are out there – a few talk about the production of nitric oxide – I don’t doubt that there are other photochemicals produced – just the research isn’t there to do much more than speculate.
I’ve taken 5,000 D3 for many years – have had very few colds – no influenza, but I also go out of my way to get sun exposure in the winter.
Dr David Brownstein is a family physician in the US who practices holistic medicine. For Covid 19 and also for any flu, colds (and more) he has his patients nebulize food grade hydrogen peroxide (very diluted!) and a drop or two of Lugol’s iodine (5%) in some saline solution. He has done this for over 20 years with amazing results. He also recommends high doses of D3, vitamin A palmitate (easier absorbed) and of course ascorbic acid during the illness.
The RDA for women is 600IU of D (until recently was 400). That’s the same 600IU even if pregnant or breastfeeding, so where does the extra D for the baby supposed to come from? Ivor Cummins quotes a study where they measured the D in breast milk. It took 6400IU of supplementation for the mother to get to the point where the baby no longer required supplements also. And this when the RDA for a lactating woman was 400! In any case, it appears the Institute of Medicine got their calculations wrong and the RDA should be 7 to 9,000.
http://blogs.creighton.edu/heaney/2015/02/13/the-iom-miscalculated-its-rda-for-vitamin-d/
It’s clear that all the RDAs are inadequate because as Malcolm pointed out they are based on the most severe symptoms. However vitamin deficiency diseases like scurvy, beri-beri and pellagra are only the end stages of vitamin deficiency. In a nutrient deficiency the body downregulates processes necessary for long-term survival in favour of those necessary for short-term survival. So scurvy etc are when the body has exhausted it’s reserves of the nutrient. That’s the basis of the Triage Theory of Bruce Ames, and Bruce has gone on to demonstrate that it’s correct with regard to Vitamin K and selenium, which means it’s almost certainly correct for the other nutrients also.
So do we have studies that plot CV infections or death vs. seasonal vitamin D level? Are Southern hemisphere or tropical countries doing consistently better than those on the Northern hemisphere with comparable economics?
One could be tempted to say that NZ and Oz are doing so well because they were hit on the tail end of summer. On the other hand, I remember reading somewhere that 87% of Australian dermatologists are Vitamin D deficient because they appear to heed their own advice.
Just for comparison, Brazil does not seem to be doing so well, and while they may be more brown skinned on average, they tend not to be afraid of the sun.
Does anyone have the whole picture?
Hi Eric: the whole picture with vitamin D has to include understanding of T cells. Vit D regulates inflammation by modulating T cell response. My T cells are 80 years old and might need a lot of help from vitamins and minerals including D3. Covid-19 risk factors are, blood pressure, obesity, and diabetes, in other words insulin resistance. Hyperglycaemia and visceral adiposity are good indicator of IR. A bit of googling re T cells/hyperglycaemia revealed that immune system is controlled by T cell mitochondrial respiration. For best results in addition to D also need a low carb/high fat diet.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1567724917301927
“Ten years ago, it was unimaginable that the immune function of T lymphocytes depended on their metabolic configuration. However, recent studies have shown a direct link between increased glycolysis and greater quantities of inflammatory effector T cells, such as the Th1 and Th17 subsets. We have shown the importance of mitochondria in all stages of the T cell response and the more important consequences of mitochondrial alterations in these processes. Currently, mitochondria may be considered as the master metabolic regulator of T cells, implicating that by controlling mitochondrial metabolism we could control lymphocyte fate and function. Thus, if we manage to reduce glycolytic metabolism and force OXPHOS in T cells, we may reduce inflammation. This could be beneficial for the treatment of autoimmune diseases, chronic inflammation or any pathology that courses with inflammation (Rhoads et al., 2017). In addition, reinvigorating exhausted T cells by improving metabolic fitness is a promising therapeutic strategy for cancer or chronic viral infections. We believe that delving deeper into the implications of mitochondria during immune responses will allow us to find novel ways to reestablish immune homeostasis and function, opening an immense avenue for the development of new immunotherapies.”
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327186#How-diet-may-affect-the-bodys-defenses
According to the findings of a new study, appearing in the journal Science Immunology, when mice fed a keto diet were injected with the flu virus, their survival rates were much higher than those of mice fed a diet high in carbohydrates.
That certainly explains what happened to me – and a few thousand others. Be kind to your mitochondria! Today I fed them rump steak and buttered asparagus.
BTW is anyone else not receiving email alerts about new posts and comments? Despite religiously ticking the boxes I’m not receiving any.
Yes. Very frustrating. If I want to get up to date items I now must go to FIND in page (top RHS) and search l 30 (within April 30) for today or – tomorrow for example, it will be y 1 (May 1 )
For some reason it doesnt recognize am or pm so I am unable to narrow it down further.
Emails are back.
Jerome Savage: Funny that on the morning of that comment, I received a world-record 141 comments in my inbox, and shortly a whole bunch more arrived. We all owe Dr. Kendrick an enormous debt of gratitude for enabling this fruitful and healthful conversation.
Gary The discussion is iinvaluable and I am confounded by Dr K’s energy, sense (of the common variety), insight, workrate & ability to get through to this ordinary 5/8th. Dr K. may your batteries get suitably recharged with good home life, comfortable armchair and decent walks in the glade.
Not for me they’re not. Is Malcolm discriminating against his international readers? Or perhaps he just hasn’t got around to the SS yet.
@#$&* autocorrect ivention of the devil!!!! “S”s not SS.
I have done nothing.
What do we say about the sun and wrinkles? I have loads which arrived rather suddenly but I’m not attaching much blame to the sun and wind because my mother-in-law had more than her fair share and she always avoided the sun (and wind). Conversely, I once met an Englishman who was 80 years old and was, and had been for many years, living on the coast in the south of France. He said he spent a lot of time in the sun, yet I remember him well because he didn’t have a single wrinkle. He wasn’t fat in the face either, so that doesn’t explain it. And when I met him it was hot and sunny and I’m sure he didn’t even have a hat on to shield his face. Life never will be fair though!
Maybe diet? Not enough healthy saturated animal fats… 😎
Tish: I might add that weight training would probably help by increasing the size of the underlying muscles. Increased protein intake would go along with that.
Glycation of the collagen proteins in the skin is a major cause of wrinkles, so I’d think a LCHF diet to bring blood sugars down would help. Also practice Intermittent Fasting eg 16:8 daily combined with a few multi-day water-only fasts to put your body into apoptosis, during which it recycles junk proteins.
https://proteinpower.com/ketosis-cleans-our-cells/
Dr William Davis cites anecdotal reports that consumption of yogurt made with the ATCC PTA 6475 strain of Lactobacillus reuteri has reduced wrinkles, apparently by boosting oxytocin levels in the body.
https://blog.undoctored.com/l-reuteri-yogurt/
I can’t vouch for any of this from personal experience, but they won’t hurt and might help.
My point for mentioning wrinkles is that they are another reason (along with skin cancer) for people avoiding the sun, but I am not sure that the sun should be blamed.
Hi Tish: glycation might explain wrinkles and other problems of getting older
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5643203/
“The glycation process leads to a loss of protein function and impaired elasticity of tissues such as blood vessels, skin, and tendons5-7. The glycation reaction is highly accelerated in the presence of hyperglycemia and tissue oxidative stress8. This implicates it in the pathogenesis of diabetic complications and aging9. Because there are no enzymes to remove glycated products from the human body, the glycation process matches well with the theory that the accumulation of metabolic waste promotes aging.”
But as Stuart already mentioned, the body can get rid of metabolic waste/old cells, etc. through autophagy, which fasting promotes. I’m not a huge fan of prolonged fasting though, so I do a 23:1 every day, hoping that it can at least help get rid of some of the old cells, etc. (I had a few skin tags before I became a carnivore and they’re gone now.) Because of old skin issues for years, I stopped using sunscreens, moisturizers, or any of that stuff on my face and body because it just seemed to always cause a reaction. I see it as a silver lining now, because I want my skin exposed to sunlight and I was falling for all the hype about ‘skin cancer’ before my skin told me to knock if off with the sunscreen.
Hi teedee: 100% correct about autophagy benefits. Time restricted fasting ie 6 to 8 hour eating window is what I do. The body needs a balance between anabolic and catabolic cellular functions. Defective cell are constantly being replaced, some say most cells are replaced every 7 years, some faster and some slower. Unfortunately wrinkles are forever, something to do with cross-linked collagen and hyperglycaemia.
Teedee, try internal sunscreen. Being descended from a long line of pasty-faced Northern Europeans I always burnt like crazy in the Australian sun. Since taking Astaxanthin I can play tennis or work shirtless in the garden for hours in full sun without burning. OTOH I don’t develop as much of a tan either. It’s not an instant fix you can’t just pop a pill and go straight out into the sun. You need to build up the levels of astaxanthin in your skin by taking it for several days first. After that you only need a maintenance dose of 4mg/day, a larger dose isn’t necessary. So take 4mg morning and night for the first few days before you go out in the sun, then 4mg/day thereafter. I take my daily dose in the evening on the principle that it will be biologically available by next morning. PABA is also supposed to offer protection from sunburn – read the user reviews at iHerb.
I’ll definitely do some reading on that, Stuart, mainly because it sounds fascinating and I’m curious about the mechanism of how that works, thanks! I do find, however, that since going very low/zero carb, I don’t burn easily any more. I can stay out in the sun now for up to 3 hrs before I have to run for cover. I guess the lack of sugar in my body means I’ve suppressed the Maillard Reaction? I caramelize more slowly now 😉
Teedee, what I was disputing was Erickson’s claim that isolating us somehow weakens our immune system, not advocating that you should hide away in a windowless basement. Clearly you want to optimise your immune system so that if you do get exposed to the virus you can fight it off. So take Vitamin C, selenium and iodine and get your Vitamin D checked. Production of D in the skin is highly individual (likewise absorption of supplements) and often declines with age so some people make little or no D from sun exposure.
Although Malcolm’s graphs suggest that 30ng/ml gives pretty good protection against colds and flu other data suggests that most people need 50ng/ml to protect against osteoporosis. That’s in US units, in most other countries they use nmol/L so 125 nmol/L.
http://blogs.creighton.edu/heaney/2013/04/08/defining-normal-part-two/
The conventional advice that you only need to expose your arms and face to the sun for a few minutes is based on the ludicrously low RDAs. Obviously the more skin you expose, the less time you need to remain in the sun so minimising risk of sunburn , so wear as little as modesty allows. Plus if you are exposing your torso and full arms and legs you can wear a hat or sunscreen to protect your face.
I got lots of sun this weekend, by sunbathing in my bathing suit Saturday, and then when we took a drive to Niagara Falls Sunday for a lovely nature walk on Dufferin Island, then along the falls. The place was packed (unlike a couple of weeks ago) and almost no one wore a mask or gloves, which was great to see. When I went into a grocery store briefly, the only ones wearing gloves and sometimes a mask were those working there. They didn’t seem to mind in the least that I or most of the shoppers had bared hands and no masks on. I think the majority of people are getting fed up with the lockdown, but even still, they maintained a respectful distance, if only to make the store staff and park staff happy.
Humidity plays an important role in the transmission of respiratory diseases . Home and workplace heating in the cold months can dry out the mucous in the nose and repository system. Mucous is similar to our old friend the glycocalx . The cilia formed act as filters against dust,bacteria an Viruses. Senior facilities are kept very warm often with no humidification.
But aren’t hospitals even more dangerous? Sealed, air-conned, disinfected, too warm, in other words the perfect incubator for bugs of all kinds! A couple of years ago, I was in a hospital not too far from Parliament after a stent or 2 (or 3) and got kicked out the day after the ‘procedure’, feeling rather wobbly (the ‘procedure’ took 1 1/2 hours!) as, and I quote, ‘the hospital is just too dangerous to my health’.
Isn’t the entire medico-health industry completely corrupted by the pursuit of profit. So for example, a fundamental block to responding to the coronavirus in a timely manner was the NHS’s so-called ‘internal market’. In fact, the entire capitalist enterprise is fundamentally irrational, counter-productive and the antithesis to good health. Unless we get rid of it, like reall soon, in the words of a well-known TV character, ‘We’re doomed I tell you, doomed!’
Barovsky I forget where I read about it but in some hospitals the corridors are somehow pressurised (cannot explain the mechanics) that flushes the air out of ward windows when doors are opened.
Well I’ve never been in a hospital where the windows can be opened, so central air-con, filtered I assume?
I have. Like is said the mechanics of it but will search for the link.
barovsky: In my recent hospital stay, the rooms had one itty bitty window, facing north, although it was a real joy to look out of it! Only way to open it would have been with a hammer.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28330710/
Prof Peter Chang Taipei Medical University and Kaohsiung Medical University, senior medical advisor to the National Taipei Hospital & adjunct professor in Tufts University School of Medicine in Boston partly credits negative pressure wards with Taiwans success in dealing with CV19.(about one third way through following)
https://www-irishtimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/how-taiwan-has-confounded-predictions-in-fending-off-the-worst-of-covid-19-1.4229660?amp_js_v=a3&_gsa=1&mode=amp&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15882863520889&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Flife-and-style%2Fhealth-family%2Fhow-taiwan-has-confounded-predictions-in-fending-off-the-worst-of-covid-19-1.4229660.
For years, high cholesterol has been touted as a major cause of cardio vascular disease and early death.
Medical advice; avoid red meat and eggs.
As both of these food types are a good source of Vitamin D we could say that the unintended consequence of following a low cholesterol diet is Vitamin D deficiency and an earlier death than would otherwise be the case if we had ignored the high cholesterol / heart disease hypothesis and consumed eggs and steak on a regular basis. Interesting is that the MSWord thesaurus promotes the word guess as a viable alternative to hypothesis
Roger A
When I think of it now some unforgivable stuff was preached by ill informed maybe even well meaning careerists.
I don’t know if this will be of any interest but since posting on wrinkles I’ve had another thought – this time about a friend we’ve known for many years. She is English, in her early 70s, very slim with a thin and pale face. She was a natural blonde and looks rather Scandinavian. She loves the sun and heat more than anyone I know. She doesn’t wear hats because she says she doesn’t suit them. She walks every day and sails and spends a lot of time outdoors. Oddly, her face is pretty well wrinkle-free but are arms are not. She is upset by them being very wrinkled, top to bottom. If the sun is to blame it seems somewhat discriminatory.
Excellent, Now how do I share this via Twitter or WhatsApp ?
Joao, what I tend to do is to right click and copy the address of the article (in the grey address bar at the top of the page) and then I can take it to any site I want to paste it too. Alternatively, sometimes you’ll see the icons for various social media platforms at the side or bottom of the article and you can click on the one you want and share it that way..
I do though wonder whether this is as cut and dried about vitamin D being the factor or whether it is also to do with the spectrum of light and the wavelengths having a specific influence, I’m referencing John Otts and his work. In his book Health and Light in which with just one piece of research, he refers to tomatoes with a virus that he moved from a glass greenhouse into a plastic one that altered their health. His work is very interesting and I think there is an important aspect of our light spectrum with our current health issue that goes beyond it being about vitamin D.
A difficult COVID-19 read.
Difficult, not because of size (huge – counting all the links!) but because it’s so against the grain for us humans to accept the erratic laborious journey from uncertainty towards . . . less uncertainty.
This has an amazingly clear perspective – to this point in time.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/pandemic-confusing-uncertainty/610819/
JDPatten: I was interested in reading this, but he lost me near the end of the second paragraph with, “Scientists know the shape of proteins on the new coronavirus’s surface down to the position (sic) of individual atoms.” I don’t think so. Perhaps I missed it along the way (absent, maybe, or taking a nap), but have electron microscopes become powerful enough to view individual atoms? I recall Kary Mullis remarking that even molecules were hypothetical.
Gary,
Perhaps you can’t see the atoms themselves, but to determine their locations, yeah, pretty much.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3122623/
It’s easy to find answers to things like this on pubmed.
Don’t miss the forest for only seeing trees.
JD, I read it and it offers a clear and balanced perspective, true. There was one section in the last quarter of the article that had me re-reading it, though. It was basically saying that flu numbers are done by modelling, but CV-19 deaths are determined by ‘testing and clinical judgement’ and goes on to say that the Covid numbers are probably being ‘underestimated’. I copied the section in case I’m misreading what they’re saying, as well as the section that comes after re: Testing.
“Deaths are hard to tally in general, and the process differs among diseases. The CDC estimates that flu kills 24,000 to 62,000 Americans every year, a number that seems superficially similar to the 58,000 COVID-19 deaths thus far. That comparison is misleading. COVID-19 deaths are counted based either on a positive diagnostic test for the coronavirus or on clinical judgment. Flu deaths are estimated through a model that looks at hospitalizations and death certificates, and accounts for the possibility that many deaths are due to flu but aren’t coded as such. If flu deaths were counted like COVID-19 deaths, the number would be substantially lower. This doesn’t mean we’re overestimating the flu. It does mean we are probably underestimating COVID-19.
The means of gathering data always complicate the interpretation of those data. Consider the reports that the coronavirus can “reactivate” in recovered patients, or that people can become “reinfected.” This really means that patients are testing positive for the virus after having tested negative. But that might have nothing to do with the virus, and everything to do with the test. Diagnostic tests for COVID-19 produce a lot of false negatives, incorrectly telling 15 to 30 percent of infected people that they’re in the clear. And even if these tests were better, the viral levels of a recovering patient would eventually fall below their threshold of accuracy. When such patients are sequentially tested, some will toggle between negative and positive results, creating the appearance of reinfection.
False positives are a problem, too. Many companies and countries have pinned their hopes on antibody tests, which purportedly show whether someone has been infected by the coronavirus. One such test claims to correctly identify people with those antibodies 93.8 percent of the time. By contrast, it identifies phantom antibodies in 4.4 percent of people who don’t have them. That false-positive rate sounds acceptably low. It’s not. Let’s assume 5 percent of the U.S. has been infected so far. Among 1,000 people, the test would correctly identify antibodies in 47 of the 50 people who had them. But it would also wrongly spot antibodies in 42 of the 950 people without them. The number of true positives and false positives would be almost equal. In this scenario, if you were told you had coronavirus antibodies, your odds of actually having them would be little better than a coin toss.”
Ah yes, teedee,
Where’s the other Donald when you really need some clarifying perspective??
lol..yes, I remember the “unknown unknowns” remark by that other Donald. It’s something akin to Rudy Giuliani’s “Truth isn’t Truth” statement/excuse.
I think Vitamin A is important too. A potent supporter of Ceruloplasmin & therefore copper – which is extremely empowering to the immune system & all the Cu-based enzymes, for proper iron & calcium distribution, too. A much maligned & overlooked element, all the emphasis is placed on zinc, & whilst copper does not diminish zinc, zinc does diminish copper. Copper is a highly effective anti-microbial & anti-viral & whilst we don’t need much, many people either do not get enough, or they lack enough of Ceruloplasmin or other carrier proteins that leave them with a plethora of unbound copper.
According to the Jaminets’ book “Perfect Health Diet”, quarter of a pound (110 grams) of beef, calf or lamb liver once a week provides the ideal amount of both Vitamin A and copper. As both can be dangerous in excess, the Jaminets warn against eating more than that amount regularly. They also recommend taking zinc once a week only, as some nutrients like copper and zinc are apparently very popular with pathogens – which, however, can’t store enough to wait a week, whereas we humans can.
I find lamb’s liver the mildest, and although quite strong tasting it is delicious lightly fried in olive or coconut oil or butter, with plenty of fried onions and some bacon. Like fish, the trick is to cook it for as short a time as possible on a fairly high heat. Add greens to taste and an optional baked potato, and you have a nutritional feast. (And an excellent excuse to crack open a bottle of superior red!)
I’m with you on the lamb;s liver but I fry it lightly in EVOO with a giant mushroom, grill some bacon and boil some greens. Unfortunately the butcher had run out so I am looking forward to next week.
Hello
I buy paté de campagne from our farm shop butcher. She tells me it is mostly liver. I will try frying it with spring onions
Of course you can cook your food as you wish, Chris, but pate doesn’t need to be cooked. I just snarf it with a fork – delicious. I find an apple or some other fruit or veg stes it off, and it also goes well with cheese.
“Look, Ma – no carbs!” 😎
Sorry Tom, apples is carbs.
Dear AHN
yes there are carbs in apples, but in 50 years I have put on 2kg of weight, so it is not something I spend much time worrying about. In the apple season I sometime eat 5 apples in a day.
At the moment my fruit is delicious new rhubarb, cooked with a little sugar. I saliva as I type this
Tom, thanks for the tip about taking my zinc/copper supplement just once a week because I can store it, but pathogens can’t. It makes sense and I’m going to start doing it that way. (I learn more on this forum in one week, than I could ever learn in a lifetime from ‘mainstream’ sources with all their conflicts of interest and constant, intentional muddying of the waters.)
If you really want a whole warehouse full of such tips, get a copy of “The Perfect Health Diet” by the Jaminets (husband and wife). I believe they have an axe to grind as they run a business advising people on health, but I haven’t found them saying anything I even suspect to be wrong.
Perhaps the biggest surprise is that they aren’t outright LCHF – they recommend eating a steady amount of “complex” carbs such as root vegetables. Makes for some delicious stews!
I base my healthy living style on “PHD”, with a few modifications here and there. (For instance, I think Dr Fung makes more sense about fasting).
Yes, I’ve read all of Fung’s books and he knows his stuff. The only area I highly disagreed with him on was his take on protein causing insulin spikes. and insisting that people keep their protein intake quite low. Maybe he has altered his statements now, but at first, he insisted that protein can cause insulin to spike as much as some carbs. What he didn’t take into account (As Dr. Ben Bikman of BYU does) is that it only spikes insulin in the presence of carbs. With a low carb, ketogenic or carnivore diet, the insulin to glucagon ratio is what’s important and protein doesn’t cause any significant spikes with those diets.
Ali,
A certain small amount of copper is a necessary micro-nutrient, balancing zinc intake, yeah. But be careful! Too much is too much.
Here in rural New England, homeowners with an historic sensibility roof their homes with traditional cedar shingles. The wood is fairly resistant to breakdown from the action of microbes and fungi of various types, but you always see moss and lichens and even small flowering plants thriving on these roofs.
Except where the chimneys are flashed with copper.
The leaching of minute amounts of copper from that flashing in rain water that then washes down the roof leaves a path barren of life. The shingles are preserved even from that microbe degradation.
If you plug mouse holes in these old houses with steel wool (nasty stuff, right?) they’ll simply chew it up for nesting material. Copper mesh is mouse proof.
Got a garden? Slugs will not cross copper.
A post sunk deep into “filthy” earth will not rot if treated with copper.
Beware of ingesting wood preservative, just in case a certain head of state might suggest looking into it. 🙂
It is ‘unbound’ copper that can potentially become toxic – pretty much like many other elements that are unbound or ‘free-radical’. When an element is correctly bound it can carry out numerous important functions as part of its design. Whilst copper deficiency in itself may be rare, deficiency due to a lack of transport proteins may well not be.
There are many functions & processes, not least enzymatic, in the body that depend on copper & transport proteins such as Ceruloplasmin. But Ceruloplasmin production is dependent on other factors like enough Vitamin A, enough good, restful sleep, a well-functioning liver & adrenal system, plenty of magnesium, etc, all of which can be very lacking in our modern, highly stressed society.
When the transport proteins are in abundance, copper cannot become ‘toxic’ because the proteins would enable the body to safely eliminate any excess. But it cannot eliminate unbound copper. That is when it becomes problematic.
JDPatten: Thank you for that. I’ve successfully used copper against marauding snails and slugs. On the left coast most everyone has replaced their roofs (cedar shakes split with a froe) because they are both flammable and inflammable. We do have lots of cedar here.
“the leaching of minute amounts of copper from that flashing in rain water that then washes down the roof leaves a path barren of life. The shingles are preserved even from that microbe degradation.”
But isn’t that the point? Copper is very purifying. Gone are the days when copper was used abundantly in hospitals due to its purifying nature. We don’t need so much that it purifies us out of existence, but we do need enough – and enough of its transport proteins to enable it to do its job – protecting us from unwanted microbes, parasites…..and viruses…..
Some practitioners have had great results in the past with copper salicylate, but it’s nigh on impossible to find now.
Funny that…..
Can’t find copper salicylate? Lots of links, here’s one:
https://www.citychemical.com/cupric-salicylate.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz9nP1J2T6QIVmeFRCh2osQmYEAAYASAAEgK-L_D_BwE
Flip! It apparently used to be as cheap as chips…..!
Right, Ali. It’s a poison. As with all substances introduced into the body, it’s the dose that determines the difference between thriving and dying. My point is that you should just be sure you’re killing your pathogens and not yourself.
JDP, I think there is no dose of for example lead, mercury, aluminium, arsenic, plutonium, fluoride which would guarantee somebody “thrived”, they are all unnecessary substances which provide nothing useful to the human body. Consequently any level will mean damage to the system. Other substances such as copper, selenium, chromium, magnesium and others, in the right form and amounts, are required as facilitators to allow correct function. These may be detrimental if the dose is too large.
I’ve been emphasising the importance of vitamin d to family and friends since this started.
My only concern was its apparent effect of increasing expression of ACE2, which covid19 uses to attach to the cells.
Will this increase susceptibility? Yet somehow confer benefits if infected? Is there a danger of a U shaped curved whereby higher levels of vitamin d means more risk?
The quoted study doesn’t seem to factor in high levels only normal – does that mean nobody with high levels has been hospitalised?
Given the sunshine we’ve been blessed with, I’ve now switched myself and my family to 2000iu every other day. Eight weeks ago, we were on 10,000iu daily to boost levels to at least normal range.
I watched the great video by doctor Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi, two Californian clinicians who just presented the statistics about the number of “corona victims”. It was like putting en needle to a blown up balloon!
YouTube has now removed this video to my utter amazement but it tells me a lot of hidden agendas here. Censorship! Conspiring theories confirmed!
Google reveals a great many accusations against the two doctors; but none of them are accompanied by any proofs that the doctors are wrong.
Especially in such a serious matter, it is vital that all reasonable opinions should be aired so that everyone can know what the various theories are. Not to mention facts and figures, which cannot be dismissed airily as “fake”.
Tom, you may want to watch this episode of Del Bigtree’s HighWire, broadcast yesterday. He interviews Dr Dan Erickson – who appears to me to be a genuinely concerned doctor and not ‘in it for the money’ as many have said:
Goran,
Just n case you want to pass that video to others, you can still find it here:
David
I concur, it was one of the best corona videos that I have watched!
There is a partial transcript. A couple of extracts:
https://www.aier.org/article/open-up-society-now-say-dr-dan-erickson-and-dr-artin-massihi/
“Sheltering in place decreases your immune system. And then as we all come out of shelter in place with a lower immune system and start trading viruses, bacteria—what do you think is going to happen? Disease is going to spike. And then you’ve got diseases spike—amongst a hospital system with furloughed doctors and nurses. This is not the combination we want to set up for a healthy society. It doesn’t make any sense.”
“Do we need to still shelter in place? Our answer is emphatically no. Do we need businesses to be shut down? Emphatically no. Do we need to have it, do we need to test them, and get them back to work? Yes, we do. The the secondary effects that we went over—the child abuse, alcoholism, loss of revenue—all these are, in our opinion, a significantly more detrimental thing to society than a virus that has proven similar in nature to the seasonal flu we have every year. “
I’ve already expressed my opinion of Erickson in a previous post. Jo Nova agrees with me. See her response to a comment touting that same video
http://joannenova.com.au/2020/04/death-tolls-could-be-60-higher-than-official-numbers-all-cause-mortality-is-at-record-highs/#comment-2320723
“Of all the scores of frontline docs who say the opposite, I was very interested to find a couple that disagree. I watched enough to see these docs made a couple of early sweeping epidemiology mistakes, and were not considering things that disagreed with what they wanted to find. Let me know if you find another copy. The Erikson doc (s?) also relied heavily on the Santa Clara antibody study, ignore all the flaws in it — which I covered here, self selecting, non-random assay in the high risk county in CA which was adjusted up from only 1.5% to 4% based on a postcode weighting, but totally ignored the demographics, when age has such a bearing on results. The result was so weak it could not be ruled out that it was entirely a false positive score. Indeed, it was a leaked copy of a preliminary result, the wife of one of the researchers even emailed invites out with calls for people to get a free result that could show them whether they could work again. The study effectively harvested for people who thought they had Covid. It disagreed with all the large and random official PCR tests. EG Austria and Iceland. Didn’t fit with results from the Diamond Princess either.
Part of the problem is there are scores of docs saying the exact opposite of what they said, but some people are only watching youtube videos and reading arguments that support the belief they want to hold.”
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One of those sweeping epidemiology mistakes has got to be “Sheltering in place decreases your immune system”. What a load of crap. Your immune system doesn’t get lazy or forget what to do after a few weeks staying at home. These docs must have been at the bottom of the class in med school. Or maybe as I suggested before they care more about their bank balances than your life – a case of “f@#$ you Jack, I’ll be all right”. Disease will certainly rise when the lockdown lifts, because the lockdown is currently limiting the transmission of ALL diseases not just Cv-19. When that happens the furloughed doctors and nurses will be called back to work. Erickson’s arguments are bogus.
I urge you to read Jo’s entire post
http://joannenova.com.au/2020/04/death-tolls-could-be-60-higher-than-official-numbers-all-cause-mortality-is-at-record-highs
This is not just “no worse than the flu”. The hospitals and care homes in the US and UK are not coping now because of inadequate PPE and testing. A flood of new cases through premature lifting of the lockdown will swamp the system.
There is no doubt the Covid is more deadly than normal flu – for the elderly population. Whether or not this simply reflects rapid spread, so that we are getting all the deaths in one big lump, we don’t yet know. In the UK, the flu can kill 30 – 40K in a year (sometimes more). Covid has (probably) killed ~30K so far, in about six weeks. The normal flu season last three to four months(ish). So, we may see 100K deaths, or it may simply fade away. (My current belief is that Covid will disappear almost as fast as it came – as per most flu epidemics. But I may be wrong on this). New Zealand has had 19 deaths, in total. They are claiming great skill in dealing with the outbreak. I suspect that, because it arrived in their late summer, this was not the time of year for an infectious epidemic. Who knows what is going to happen there when winter comes.
well spotted Dr K; astute as always. Friends in NZ report numerous anecdotes of folks developing all sorts of symptoms of corona back in Jan or earlier; tales of folks returning to NZ in Jan through Beijing airport; spending some hours there, and having chest infections after returning; in the nz summer, astute Chinese tourists flew south to the sun; so there were maybe 20 planes a day arriving Nov-Feb; 6000 visitors a day; 180,000 a month; 500,000 visitors in 3 months: 10% of nz population. Few chinese tourists would visit Glasgow in the UK winter.
The authorities do not wish to concede any of this: they have a simple answer: corona only arrived a week before they instituted house arrest, and the tiny incidence of problems over that time of course showed the brilliance of their interventions: no other explanations can or will be tolerated: mother has spoken.
Friends of ours there narrate tales of lunching with aircrew directly off flights from China in the innocent days of early summer, when such human contact was run of the mill. Nice smooth flight back from Beijing? Great. Cool. 12 hr flight? Phew. Seemingly something like 3000 hospital beds were emptied in preparation for the corona arriving: (although it was likely all around the country by Dec or Jan); and in those 3000 empty beds, were sat up to 12 persons at any one time, who were deemed corona positive.
Friends report it was the best summer in years in NZ: endless sunny and cloudless days: the entire population out in the sun as much as possible. Surely now we see a good way to stay healthy.
The Atlantic article that I just read (the link is in JDPatten’s post) mentioned the flaws in the Santa Clara “study”, so you’re correct that it was flawed and people jumped on it too quickly. That’s the whole point of the Atlantic piece that the uncertainties have been fueled by studies and pre-studies being published long before they should be, etc. As for the connection between staying indoors and the effect on our immune system, I’m hedging my bets by taking D3 and getting out in the sun as much as possible. Even if you’re proven correct that it’s a load of B.S. that our immune systems can suffer that quickly, I love the feeling of being outdoors in the sun as this lockdown makes it feel even more precious and special than before.
Given that the majority of the UK population is overweight or obese, isn’t the Government missing a great opportunity of reminding them of the dangers of obesity and bad eating habits? It hardly gets a mention, yet when we see pictures of the NHS staff and of carers who have died from the virus, it can’t escape everybody that there are a disproportionate number who look very overweight. Some research in this area would be good, but is perhaps rather unexpected in these foolish times.
Oh, here is a start with research and it includes Imperial College too!
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/197216/being-male-overweight-lead-more-serious/
The embarrassing fact is that most of those who are seriously overweight or obese got that way by following government “healthy eating guidelines”. Admittedly, they are also “cheap eating” guidelines, perhaps reflecting a realization by Sir Humphrey – perhaps many years ago – that the population has grown too numerous to be fed with traditional healthy foodstuffs.
Very true about the ‘healthy eating guidelines’ and also the preponderance of antidepressants and especially anti-anxiety meds like quetiapine, which causes massive weight gain in many on the highest doses. It takes a herculean effort for some of us to be slim and healthy, but it can be done if we have the right information to guide us and a willingness to keep working at it.
Yes, it is a weird world we are living in just now. Food is certainly one of the most important ones to promote our health.
LCHF eating for health has been subjected to a prolonged witch hunt around the world from the medical establishment. Prof. Tim Noakes in South Africa is perhaps the most notable “victim” although he finally won his case.
You may ask why when LCHF actually cures people from obesity and T2D.
Well, 500 miljon T2D is for sure a big market for Big Pharma and may be the obvious answer.
The figure is closer to £50Bn
Yes!
A friend was slated for “fat shaming” a photo of a bunch of dieticians. I pointed out that it wasn’t fat shaming, it was diet shaming. Whenever their patients get fat and worse following their advice, they are always told that they are “failing to comply” with the diet. When the dieticians themselves become fat they don’t have that excuse, but it doesn’t sink in.
I remember one of the girls in the supermarket pointing out the fat people getting ever fatter while eating their “low fat!” food, while all the slim fit healthy people were in the butchers, veg shops and farm shops. She got it in a way that “medical professionals” usually don’t.
One of the most striking stories in Gary Taubes’ classic “The Diet Dilemma” (published in the USA as “Good Calories, Bad Calories” – a far better title) related an experience that Taubes himself had. In Latin America researching why some people get grossly fat, he was in a doctor’s waiting room and saw a very fat mother with a child who was severely undernourished. His first reaction was indigant – “what kind of mother stuffs herself while her child goes hungry?” Then it clicked that the mother’s obesity had the same cause as the child’s emaciation – a terrible diet, almost exclusively of cheap carbs. Bread, sugar, pasta…
Taubes tells of several Native American tribes who were noted for their physical perfection before the white man came. They hunted, fished, and grew their own vegetables and corn. Then the white man came, denied them fishing rights and hunting rights, and replaced their healthy diet with “government rations”: mostly white flour, sugar, and tea. Within a single generation they were all desperately obese.
Some years ago the UK stopped with the public service announcements and adverts. This is due to political correctness and the fact nobody in power wants to be seen as having a “nanny state” outlook.
When I was growing up we had green cross code man, anti litter campaigns galore, safe sex to fight aids, just say no to drugs. None of that sort of thing now. We have to allow people to live their own lives, make their own mistakes.
Sadly, when people make their own mistakes it’s the tax payer that picks up the bill.
They government could have done more in the way of announcements and advisories at the start of this. Not just “wash your hands” but **when** to wash or sanitise your hands. When you’ve touched cash or filled up at the petrol station. When you’ve been in a shared space like a shop. Even, put your toilet lid down before flushing as this thing could perhaps transmit through aerosol particles. But no.
We can’t be seen to tell people how to suck eggs.
Simon C, I read your statements about hand sanitising as supposedly being a way to reduce infection rates of this particular virus. In the early days when the Fergoid could get away with his statements of this infectious killer disease, because there were little available data. Now there is much more, and it appears the original statements have not been realised. If you watch https://youtu.be/T-saAuXaPok, you can see a different perspective, so the current draconian solutions including excessive satitising.
Right, Notepad, there is such a thing as ‘excessive sanitising’ and I’ve often reminded family members to ignore the panic-buying of hand sanitizers, because soap and water (imho) is the better choice, anyway. That said, when I’ve had to go out in public and touch a lot of surfaces, I do take extra care to make sure I wash my hands with soap and water so I don’t unnecessarily tax my immune system just yet. It’s like I’m allowing it to ‘save it’s strength’ for when I get hit with this virus. Call me crazy and completely wrong if you must, but after having so many autoimmune issues in the recent past, I admit I’m playing it a bit safe. That doesn’t mean I won’t grab an item that may have the virus on it and I don’t walk around wearing gloves, but something just tells me to at least wash my hands after being in a public place until my immune system is fully healed or at least stronger after years of health problems ( I don’t know how long it takes to heal from all the conditions I dealt with before adopting a healthier diet, though my labs are very encouraging.)
I was always of the school of thought that believed my kids–and I –should play in the dirt, etc and I was never worried about them being exposed to germs, but until we know more about this virus and how quickly it can inundate a person over 60 (me), I’m just being a ‘little’ cautious about picking it up too quickly..
Well there is such a thing as excessive sanitising. Animals brought up in entirely sterile environments do very badly and die very young. Our systems require exposure to various invective agents. This is simply, a fact. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5146645/
Agree completely. Do you think I have anything to worry about because my immune system was out of whack for so long? Does it need healing? Can it heal? Should I just go about my business normally and forget about the hand washing after being out in public now that my health has improved from dietary/lifestyle changes?
Thanks for the link, btw 🙂
Does your self-healing system need healing?
The key to heath is in identifying and removing the blocks – on all levels that get in the way of what comes naturally – or would, given the chance.
I feel it worth inviting this way of seeing to be considered instead of adding ever more layers of manual management or interventions by which to get in our own way.
What is the covid over-reaction based upon but faith in the belief our immune function is inadequate?
Build resilience by investing faith in the active belief that life can support its own expression and allow that research, doctors and your own inner intuition is part of life and not separate.
The thing about a siege (lockdown in self isolated protection) is that it denies a greater communication and exchange. Its a valid strategy under specific conditions – but no way to live – even if you manage to survive and get a position of relative privilege in its system.
We have become normalised to live in a bubble – and made it consensual reality.
I accept our individual freedom to choose our risk-level within the realms of workability. I don’t accept being denied life and the sharing of the qualities of life for the sake of protecting the right of others to consolidate their personal sense of security – regarding potential interactions in which their comfort zones are not supported, by which they may believe they are threatened or offended because I do not share their beliefs.
So I see it as a self and social responsibility in life to negotiate risks that are part of what life is – but NOT the State’s business – unless crime is involved.
Now we have a state that makes laws for thought crimes, and a medical system that sets laws for criminalising social ‘infection’ applied not to clinical disease but to the living and the healthy who don’t comply with state directives that serve the control structure, set apart from and over the living.
If we make health a god, we pursue it for its own sake. Likewise power or control or wealth.
Unless we let life IN, we lock it out under the attempt to force it into some ideal – that is never shall be – even if the stick and carrot of its promise or threat moves us on in futile pursuit.
A lot of what is going on is ‘Skinner’s rats’ or ‘Pavlov’s dogs’. Conditioning that requires our consent at some level.
Yes, Binra, I too, want the freedom to choose which risks to take with my own body and will never acquiesce to mandatory vaccinations or live in a Mad Max world, because it’s my choice to stay or go, at that point. As for having faith that “life can support its own expression”, that’s easier now that I’ve done the hard work of finding and implementing the right diet and lifestyle plan for my health and well being. When I listened to the powers that be and followed their food guides or allowed myself to be tempted by the carbage offerings on tap around every corner, my immune system overreacted and fell ill, so it’s not surprising I would be somewhat tentative as to how much I can “trust” my immune system to support me. That said, I don’t feel stressed or worried; I’m just wanting to be sure I’m doing all I can to support my physical and emotional needs, as I’m still getting to know its nuances and signals.
All is well…take care.
Absolutely! My stepdad used to tell me that we all needed to eat some ‘dirt’ in our lives and apparently a handful of dirt contains millions of viruses and bacteria, so I never wash my mushrooms, a vague attempt at brushing off the ‘dirt’ is all. What the hell is going on? We’ve lived with all these organisms for millions of years and along comes capitalism and messes the whole thing up! I go to see my GP and in the waiting room, a video tells me that cholesterol is a disease. What a depressing state of affairs and it just keeps getting worse. Eventually and probably quite soon, the entire, sorry enterprise is going to self-destruct and perhaps whatever is left on the ‘other side’, will return to a more modest and sustainable way of living, or am I just dreaming?
Hi barovsky: re eating “dirt” is needed, did your stepdad have an antidote for parasitic worms?
Diatomaceous earth
teedee,
As in: “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.”.
JD, finally someone who uses those words to describe something factual, like the immune system. Thank you. I grew to hate those words a few decades ago when certain people would use them as a platitude when I was having severe bouts of depression and panic disorder w/agoraphobia. It was the old, “pull yourself up by the bootstraps–fake it till you make it—grow a thicker skin–it’s not your circumstances that are flawed, it’s your thoughts” routine topped by the never helpful, “whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” stuff that made life even more unbearable at that time.
teedee,
Along these lines, being challenged with other very nasty diseases might – – might!! – – reduce the worst symptoms of COVID, should you eventually get it.
Does Bezos actually pay you to spread his muck for him?
I would put the article in The Onion (Parody site) and then it would make sense.
While injecting vaccines for other conditions is ostensibly arguable – or at least as proposing for an argument – the fact of such propaganda adds insult to injury.
Or are they pissing on you and laughing all the way to the bank?
Do you ever take a step back and look at what the actual risk of ‘CV-19’ amounts to?
Even if the stats were exclusively caused BY this novel virus?
If CV-19 didn’t exist would the vaccination industry have to invent it?
If the vaccination industry didn’t exist would you be left helpless?
This may be so – because and I haven’t the exact quote handy – but it was an insider confessing that “we have created whole generations of vaccine dependency”.
Not unlike psycho-pharma’s negative addiction – in that NOT taking the drugs initiates extremely negative physical experience.
So a stepping down culture of transition is needed – NOT a mandatory vaccination for all.
It is the vaccinated who are likely to be immuno-compromised as a result of false premises and profits. Though there is much else operating anti-biosis in our world.
Binra, I think the person you were looking for who mentioned vaccine dependant immunity (an oxymoron given all the contaminants found in vaccines in an Italian study mentioned recently) was Heidi Larsen speaking to the World Holocaust Organisers, sorry, World Health Organisation. Meanwhile a little more from Fox news https://youtu.be/sPrbGU0Wyh4
Ah – yes. Elizabeth Hart (Hi) is my source. (Though I have seen Andrew Wakefield on the complications of the measles for the vaccinated).
I would like to read the quote in context before trusting to use it.
Heidi Larson, Director of The Vaccine Confidence Project, during the recent WHO Global Vaccine Safety Summit, i.e. “…We’ve shifted the human population…to dependency on vaccine-induced immunity…We’re in a very fragile state now. We have developed a world that is dependent on vaccinations”.
the ‘…’ presumably refers to runs of text not included.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/fears-of-loss-of-public-confidence-expressed-at-who-vaccine-conference_3265248.html
This has the quote:
The collapse of public confidence in vaccines comes even as vaccines become more critical to public health, she says. That’s because the natural immunity that people had developed to many diseases hasn’t kept up with the diseases themselves, and in some cases has even waned.
Larson says we now rely on vaccines more than ever, because our collective immunity isn’t what it used to be.
“We have shifted the human population to dependency on vaccine-induced immunity, and that’s on the great assumption that populations would cooperate,” Larson said. “We’re in a very fragile state now. We have developed a world that is dependent on vaccinations. We don’t have a choice but to make that effort.”
I suggest there are a few points which put people in this fragile state:
1) The almost OCD approach to washing
2) Enormous inputs of pharma drugs
3) Relatively poor nutrition from big ag.
What do I do?
Don’t wash a lot
Don’t have any pharma drugs
Don’t eat junk food. No wheat products, not much of other carbs. Plenty of unpasteurised cheese, cream. Plenty of eggs (you know, the high cholesterol thingys) some meat though not a lot, butter, dark chocolate and a myriad of vits, B, C, D, E, magnesium, and a few others. Veggies and fruit.
Pervasive and invasive toxins play a role – but what IS – or what ARE the immune systems?
herein lies the key. As i suggested recently what we do to block, obstruct or undermine support for our health and life and self is often where we are not looking because it is part of our believed ‘security’ or protection.
What are the premises of the covid19 event?
Is not one of them the assertion that being ‘novel’ we have NO IMMUNITY to it and are therefore weak, defenceless and must needs run and hide behind what are essentially propaganda props.
Resilience, fortitude, resourcefulness, confidence grown of willingness to go for something worthy are all aspects of growing character. If I sound like an old man now it is because a moral education has been thrown out by a social correctness compliance – that is top down or engineered – even in terms of generating astroturfed or fake movements.
Controlling human behaviours is very cynical and of course dehumanising to both the controller and the supporting role who gives over responsibility to ‘Them’ or to conditions – as if we have no participation in how we choose to see or respond – and so we run as a product of others or of a past put beyond change. Except of course, Orwell was almost right. Who commands the present, commands the past. Not controlling others or externals, but deciding how to see the world and others. We carry the past that justifies our present. Depression or dispiritedness easily finds the past that supports and sets the outcome in joylessness, lack of energy and motivation.
And the spell of any narrative fixation can be bolstered by fear, pain, lack and grievance no matter how cruelly it turns upon itself. If there is an ‘answer’ then it is fitted to the desire to find or be found in it – as our own call to life – given expression in our day, our relationships and endeavours. None of which are really added on, so much as regained as a result of releasing heavy burdens.
Having been brought up in a managed society, I am now living in a managed crushing of the global economy. I might wish the ‘globalists’ had something that felt workable and liveable – but its a captured and cloned collectivism being relentlessly fed expectation and passive compliance – is it not?
Hi Binra, re your reference to Heidi Larson. She’s an anthropologist and the director of The Vaccine Confidence Project, what I would describe as a ‘big brother’ organisation monitoring any dissent about vaccination, and promoting vaccine products, i.e. a marketing arm. But you can check out their own spiel at this link: https://www.vaccineconfidence.org/ The VCP seems to be based at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine.
In December last year, the World Health Organisation hosted the Global Vaccine Safety Summit, video presentations are still currently accessible via this link: https://www.who.int/news-room/events/detail/2019/12/02/default-calendar/global-vaccine-safety-summit
Heidi Larson presented the plenary lecture, titled: Vaccine safety in the next decade: Why we need new models of trust building?
Unfortunately, full transcripts don’t appear to be available. However, I transcribed Heidi Larson’s lecture myself, and you can contact me if you want a copy of it, elizhart8@gmail.com
Here are the comments from Larson you refer to, without my editing:
I think that one of our biggest challenges is, as Bob said this morning, or yesterday, we’re in a unique position in human history, where we’ve shifted the human population to vaccine-induced, to dependency on vaccine-induced immunity. And that’s on the great assumption that populations would cooperate. And for many years people lined up, the six vaccines, people were there, they saw the reason. We’re in a very fragile state now. We have developed a world that is dependent on vaccinations. We don’t have a choice but to make that effort, to make that extra…
Again, anyone who is interested, feel free to contact me if you’d like the whole transcript of Heidi Larson’s lecture.
I’d love to read the whole transcript. I’ll email you, thanks, Elizabeth.
Re Heidi Larson and The Vaccine Confidence Project, they are accustomed to a soapbox via the mainstream media, including the BBC, and Larson referred to my faithful BBC in her plenary lecture Vaccine safety in the next decade. Why we need new modes of trust building?, at the WHO Global Vaccine Safety Summit last December.
There’s a serious lack of transparency for The Vaccine Confidence Project. For example, in September last year, Dr Pauline Paterson of The VCP was given a platform on the BBC Newsnight program Why the anti-vaccination movement is wrong, without disclosing the vaccine industry provides funding for The VCP, plus other organisations, such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, have provided funding.
Similarly, Heidi Larson’s article published in Nature in October 2018, i.e. The biggest pandemic risk? Viral misinformation, fails to disclose conflicts of interest.
I raised this issue in a BMJ rapid response, see ‘Pharma-led chorus’ dominates the public narrative on vaccination, including reference to my complaint to the BBC, saying that its editorial policy and standards had been breached in not disclosing conflicts of interest, and that the Vaccine Confidence Project was not clearly transparent about its funding sources on its website. I received a response from Adam Cumiskey, Newsnight’s Chief Programme Producer. He did not accept the BBC had breached its policy or standards but acknowledged that, since the Vaccine Confidence Project began, its research team has received funding from a range of organisations including vaccine manufacturers GlaxoSmithKline and Merck, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Wellcome Trust, 3ie, Innovative Medicines Initiative and others.[8] In my view, this conflict of interest information should have been clearly disclosed during the BBC Newsnight program. https://www.bmj.com/content/364/bmj.l312/rr-6
There’s a major problem in that the mainstream media, including the BBC and journals such as The BMJ, fail utterly to provide critical analysis of vaccination policy and investigation of conflicts of interest.
It’s horrifying to see how easily politicians and entire news organizations can be blatantly bought off. This worries me more than any news story about a ‘scary virus’. It’s the systemic buying off of every health organization, and their myriad conflicts of interest that will be our undoing, long before any virus can thin the herd. We’re allowing Big Brother to move right into our homes now, with barely a whisper of complaint.
The cause was a long way back, but the recognition of consequence is seen as if it suddenly happened. However you are right, tyranny is invited or given a back door or even mainline connection into our homes, our kids our minds. It doesn’t seem to be what it actually does.
To what degree is this a popping of a reality bubble for many who have been insulated to a large extent from having to confront the ‘backend’ or underbelly of society?
Someone said ‘how dare they..?’ in a recent comment. Well audacity is their strong suit – and the bigger the lie the better it works.
Those mortally afraid of an extraordinarily oversold respiratory infection have been induced to a patriotic fervour for our boys on the front line. Saving lives and saving an already captured privately owned ‘NHS’ – apart from token show.
This formula worked in the past and it works now because fear is the underlying basis for protection and survival in all but a few – and the fear response shuts down all else to fight or flight – but in trauma of overwhelm we have another option; freezing, immobilisation and dissociation.
We can also have the situation where the abused emulates or repeats the abusive pattern.
If the infected can be recast as vermin – they can be treated as vermin as a moral necessity or virtue. This can be seen in not very distant human history.
Calling up fear is extremely dangerous for it can and does mutate into a monster when it is fed rather than starved of fuel. It only offer illusion of control – but for the Fauci’s of the world any illusion is a way to evade and delay a terrible upset.
After reading Elizabeth’s post – to which you reply – I had the image of someone who would rather medicate his family to death by stealth than upset them with such terrible experience. I have read of such cases.
All too true, Binra. I used to fervently believe that the majority of us would never allow things to get to the point where we’re living in an ‘Idiocracy’ (as the movie title suggests), but I don’t think enough of us will fight back and stop it. I never thought I’d say that, but I now believe that most people will simply fall in line and let the alpha dogs have their way with the world.. I want to remain optimistic as is/was my usual nature, but more than that I’m a realist, and I can see that far too many have lost the will to fight back.
Like other readers, I always enjoy your blogs and appreciate the sometimes maverick views! This week’s blog on vitamin D was no exception and I wholeheartedly endorse the suggestion that Vit D3 supplements should be taken during the winter months especially to help boost immunity. However, I have a little niggle, regarding very high doses for a prolonged period of time, which is the possibility that high dose vit D may trigger sub-clinical magnesium deficiency. You wrote about this a while ago and referred the readers to the following reference:
http://openheart.bmj.com/content/openhrt/5/1/e000668.full.pdf – paper written by Jarnes,J. et al.
On a personal note, I had been taking 1000 i.u. of vitamin D for several months and had occasional AF. After reading this paper, I stopped the vit D, got myself some magnesium supps and the episodes of AF have pretty much disappeared! Everyday, I thank you sincerely for that information!!
Jill Leslie: Thank you for reposting that important paper. All the food highest in Mg are nuts plus chocolate. I also drink Gerolsteiner mineral water, which has 100 mg/L Mg. I think the recommended daily value is somewhere around 500 mg.
We take 2 or 3 magnesium citrate tablets per day to balance the likely excess of calcium in our diet (meat, dairy, green veg, etc.)
The magnesium pills are among the larger, but go down easily with water if you relax your throat. It’s essential, by the way, to take all pills with plenty of liquid. I once read about a doctor who got a pill stuck in his throat and didn’t notice until it had burned a hole right through. Whoops!
Check how much elemental (actual) magnesium each pill contains. Typically it’s a third or less of the whole size/weight.
Jill Leslie
Very interesting article, thanks, especially since I occasionally suffer from AF and arythmies.
My questions: why did you give up Vitamin D supplementation after increasing your Mg supplementation?
How do you supplement Mg? I take it in the form of Magnesium Glyphosphate which gives me 200 mg of elemental Magnesium a day? Is this the best for bio availability, how much do I need? Not easy questions to answer. Doctors have told me that they assume blood levels to be equivalent to cell levels. This article calls that into doubt.
Mr Chris,
A lower carb diet can sometimes (often?) help with AF. That and mg supplements, but you’re doing that already. See e.g. http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2007/12/atrial-tachycardia-and-fibrillation.html
Note that changing suddenly to a keto diet has been reported as giving heart rhythm problems to some people, so you might want to ease into it, say 100g carbs/day for a couple of days, then 70, 50 … and see how it goes. Of course if you already have AF you might be less worried about that and just try full keto for a couple / few days.
A good quote from one of Peter’s Covid blogs: http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2020/04/coronavirus-is-possibly-everywhere.html
“Damn, bacon and eggs for breakfast every day and steak with broccoli and ‘shrooms for supper. Cheese and olives for lunch if you’re hungry. Sounds awful I know but sacrifices will have to be made.” 🙂
mal
Sasha: She was clearly referring to the rabble, that the rabble (or deplorables, if you wish, although at that time she had yet to deploy that colorful phrase) is winning, since she and wild Bill succeeded in clawing their way into the ranks of the elites.
Ali: Beef liver is rich in Cu: 14.57 mg/100g; cooked oysters: 4.29mg/100g; baking chocolate: 3.23 mg/100g; cashew: 2.21 mg/100g; Brazil nuts: 1.74 mg/100g. All, except cashew, among my favorite foods
More “D”: news:
http://joannenova.com.au/2020/05/indonesian-study-low-vitamin-d-patients-ten-times-more-likely-to-die-of-coronavirus/
I feel I would be remiss if I don’t make a variation to my post above (Apr 30) where I stated that Dr David Brownstein recommends high doses of Vit A and D3 “during the illness”. Actually this is the way Dr Brownstein stated it: “Both Vitamin A and D are fat-soluble vitamins. They can build up in the body. These doses are NOT meant to be taken for longer than four days at time. If you need to repeat the doses, seek advice from your physician.” He also states his dose for adults for Vit A (palmitate) as being 100,000 IU/day for four days (not pregnant or breast-feeding women) and for adults Vit D3 50,000 IU/day for four days along with at least 5 to 10 grams of ascorbic acid/day (to bowel tolerance) longer term and then the nebulizing as described in my post above. Nebulizing can be continued well past the four days and can be done at least a few times/day.
Malcolm, re your snake oil salesman’s reference to Bill Gates, i.e. Bill Gates is behind it all sir you say, pushing for mandatory vaccines for all diseases…
It seems that Bill Gates is indeed running the show…
Here’s direct evidence that Bill Gates deliberately sabotaged the vaccine safety commission mooted by RFK Jr and Donald Trump, see this video excerpt, transcript below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6YwP7Er-rQ&feature=youtu.be
Gates is talking about meeting with Donald Trump after he became president…
…then the second time I saw him was the March after that, so March 2017, in the White House. In both of those two meetings he asked me if vaccines weren’t a bad thing, because he was considering a commission to look into ill-effects of vaccines, and somebody, I think his name was Robert Kennedy Jr, was advising them that vaccines were causing bad things, and I said no, that’s a dead end, that would be a bad thing, don’t do that…
Honestly, how bad is this?!?!? Who the hell is Bill Gates to deliberately scupper a vaccine safety commission? How are Bill and Melinda Gates wielding so much power, these unelected people who are dabbling and interfering in the lives of billions? How do we bring them to account?
And on 30 April 2020, here’s Gates telling us What you need to know about the COVID-19 vaccine: https://www.gatesnotes.com/Health/What-you-need-to-know-about-the-COVID-19-vaccine
Here are some quotes:
One of the questions I get asked the most these days is when the world will be able to go back to the way things were in December before the coronavirus pandemic. My answer is always the same: when we have an almost perfect drug to treat COVID-19, or when almost every person on the planet has been vaccinated against coronavirus.
Humankind has never had a more urgent task than creating broad immunity for coronavirus. Realistically, if we’re going to return to normal, we need to develop a safe, effective vaccine. We need to make billions of doses, we need to get them out to every part of the world, and we need all of this to happen as quickly as possible.
My hope is that the vaccine we have 18 months from now is as close to “perfect” as possible. Even if it isn’t, we will continue working to improve it. After that happens, I suspect the COVID-19 vaccine will become part of the routine newborn immunization schedule.
In order to stop the pandemic, we need to make the vaccine available to almost every person on the planet.
Again, read the entire Gates article. It’s absolutely chilling that this person is being allowed to run amok with international vaccination policy, we the people have to rein this in and demand accountability. https://www.gatesnotes.com/Health/What-you-need-to-know-about-the-COVID-19-vaccine
This is my preferred format of Kennedy’s argument:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/flu-misinformation-and-coronavirus-fears-my-letter-to-dr-sanjay-gupta/
I hope nobody will mind my posting it here, as I have found great difficulty in locating Kennedy’s writing through search engines. What you see first is a mountain of pages saying how insane he is, how he “spouts anti-vaxxer nonsense”, etc.
I have found Kennedy very persuasive and reasonable, and I am inclined to believe him.
As for Gates, I have been trying to open people’s eyes to his unscrupulousness since the 1980s. My company, Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) – maker of PDP11 and VAX computers – suffered quite badly when corporate and government customers began buying PCs instead of what we thought of as our “serious” systems. One DEC engineer, trying to explain what people saw in MS-DOS, explained “It’s cheap and fast because it doesn’t have the overhead of an operating system”.
The main reason why Microsoft grew so rapidly and became one of the world’s largest corporations is that, almost uniquely, it has always been unwaveringly focused on increasing long-term profits and absolutely nothing else. Quality, safety, reliability, ease of use, etc. are all seen as “nice to have” features, which Microsoft will spend money on if (and only if) it is sure that will maximize its profits.
Today it seems that Gates has not changed. Some people think he is a brilliant programmer, but he is not. (Name a single program that he has written or even contributed to). Others think he is a great leader, but he is not. He is actually an extremely efficient businessman, utterly dedicated to making money with little or no concern for anything else.
elizabethhart, thank you for the post, and particularly for the excerpts of the links. I would find it too traumatising to go through the links, but I may get round to it one day. Gates thinks there might be a safe vaccine in 18 months. I wonder, safe by whose standards, for many of the current vaccines are far from safe.
Stay safe, (have my vaccine). This seems like an oxymoron, but there are many people believing it will be safe. Perhaps they should dig a little.
This is an example of why they don’t want a commission to look into vaccine safety.
“Just to be brief about the issue, I think one of the major problems with vaccines is that they’re grown in animal tissues and we don’t know what viruses and pathogens are coming back in the needle. A recent inquiry in December 2018 by the Italian lab, Corvela, on the GlaxoSmithKline vaccine Priorix Terta highlights troubling problems that our technology can now uncover but that few seem to have the courage to investigate. Translated from the Italian, the report finds:”
“We have continued the investigation, both chemical and biological, on the Priox Tetra, quadrivalent against measles, rubella, mumps, and varicella. We have found . . . proteobacteria and nematoda worms, 10 other viruses through ssRNA, Microviridae (bacterial or phage viruses) and numerous retroviruses including endogenous human and avian retroviruses, avian viruses, human immunodeficiency and immunodeficiency virus of monkeys (fragments that if inserted into the database detect fragments of HIV and SIV), murine virus, horse infectious anemia virus, lymphoproliferative disease”
— Plague of Corruption: Restoring Faith in the Promise of Science by Kent Heckenlively, Judy Mikovits
https://amzn.eu/3wL8Ynj
SteveR, thanks for the Italian link. Your internet access will be terminated soon, as will mine as I am going to pass it on. This to me, is the killer blow for those who claim vaccines are safe and effective.
Indeed.
The Guardian appears to be pre-moderating all my posts now and censoring those it doesn’t like without the usual warning about not following the rules – which I am as far as I can tell.
I believe it, Steve. The National (owned by Post Media) ‘moderated’ me out of existence in their comments section for trying to talk about vitamins C and D for some protection against Covid-19…They tried to use the excuse that my screen name (TeeDee) didn’t fit with their “Community Guidelines”, yet someone using the screen name ‘Default User’ was just fine
Is there no end to this?! What are we doing to ourselves and to the planet in the name of making a profit? Worse still, as a result of the massive propaganda campaign waged by the (UK) government to cover their utter failure to prepare for the inevitable, worse, their deliberate destruction of our public health infrastructure, built over the past 70 years, with OUR MONEY, expertise and time, everybody, whether they like it or not, have become medical ‘experts’, epidemiologists and statisticians as we try to make sense of the insensible, the endless flood of meaningless numbers, the fear-mongering (going outside kills people), and what is now being called the ‘new normal’, code word for endless austerity even worse than the last decade’s!
When will we learn to get up off our knees and kick these gangsters out, once and for all?
Steve, thanks for the book recommendation, ‘Plague of Corruption’. I started to read an excerpt from it and didn’t even finish it before making the decision to purchase the book immediately. It’s sickening what happened to Judy Mikovits life and career because of her integrity and refusal to lie about her findings just to please greedy, corrupt Big Pharma bastards and their stockholders who care NOTHING about human suffering or healthy lives. Their dearest wish is for every man, woman, child and domestic animal to be medicated and vaccinated to the hilt, and they couldn’t care less about unintended consequences or quality of life issues.
Steve,
Just a bit of background history concerning the authors:
It’s all out there. Just sayin’.
“It’s all out there” . And it’s misleading, or just plain WRONG!!
1) It was NOT Andrew Wakefield’s study. He was a member of a team. The retraction was political.
2) It was denied autism and vaccines were linked.
3) William Thompson, a senior researcher at the CDC blew the whistle when the research team there was told to destroy the data which showed there was a link to autism.
4) The story discrediting Andrew Wakefield was written by Brian Deer, who was paid by The Times (may have been Sunday Times), the paper owned by Rupert Murdoch, whose son James was a non-executive director of Smith Kline Beecham (or similar name, as they keep changing it.) Manufacturers of the MMR vaccine.
The vaccine introduced into the UK was banned in Canada in (I think early 1988) named Trivirex, because of the problems it was causing. This was licensed in the UK in July 1988 as Pluserix.
It’s all out there, but then of course, vaccines are safe and effective, if you happen to be a manufaccturer with no product liability.
This:
https://www.parliament.scot/researchbriefingsandfactsheets/petitions briefings S5/PB17-1658.pdf
But, also, this:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bad-medicine/
JDPatten: Snopes is lying. Dr. William S. Thompson of the CDC, who was the statistician on the study later published in Pediatrics (the scientific journals they pitched it to all rejected it) as DeStefano, et al., 2004, knew that his superiors had ordered them to remove the data from 40% of the cohort, which diluted the strong signal to one not statistically significant, then to destroy the original data (they met in a conference room with a big garbage can). That signal indeed showed an odds ratio of 3.40 of an autism diagnosis for African-American boys (in Atlanta, GA) given MMR prior to age five compared to those not vaccinated until age five. He sat on this knowledge for ten years. Then, in a private phone call with a fellow scientist (and autism parent) with whom he had interacted in an official capacity regarding FOIA requests, he spilled the beans. That scientist, Dr. Brian Hooker, recorded the conversation. Dr. Thompson hired a whistleblower attorney. They contacted Rep. Bill Posey (R, FL.), who read Dr. Thompson’s statement, and all the original documents into the Congressional Record on the floor of the House, with a plea to his colleagues to investigate the matter (you can watch the video of it; it is archived). You can read all of this, and many, many more details of this in “Vaccine Whistleblower: Exposing Autism Research Fraud at the CDC,” by Kevin Barry, Esq. Why Congress did nothing about this is perfectly obvious; they are wholly owned by Pharma, as they are by the defense industry. Retraction Watch is often good, but why you choose to believe Wikipedia or Snopes, or even RW uncritically escapes me. I suggest you reread “Doctoring Data.” I’m currently on my fourth read. It never goes stale; in fact it is more relevant as each day passes. I have all the original documents (from the CDC) Dr. Thompson submitted to his attorney and Rep. Posey on my hard drive. I will email them to you if you wish. By the way, after this became public, Dr. Thompson phoned Carmel Wakefield to apologize for sitting on this knowledge for thirteen years (since 2001). Had he come forth earlier, it may have made a difference in the persecution of her husband, and he regretted not doing so. This is a true and shocking story that Snopes is simply lying about.
Gary, thank you for your continual diligence in these matters, there would be plenty of others to thank you, if only they questioned “safe and effective”. Without these posts people would be doing things like staying at home, wearing masks and keeping a silly distance from everyone else. \(^-^)/. Ooooooh, they are………………
Gary,
It’s interesting that you apparently believe that I believe.
I’m functionally comfortable with the idea that the scientific methods we humans have evolved for ourselves to this point – and according to the rigor with which they’re used – are generally heading us towards a fair facsimile of reality on most levels.
That is by way of stating that I do not “believe” anything, per se. I’ve been taught that hard lesson by Life. I do see myself as optimistic as well, though.
Science, as we human inventors/developers of it practice it, is, of course, rife with errors… and, yes, dissembling. It’s part of the deal. The best you can do is view every aspect of all research papers’ methods and concluding statements as-if-it-were-your-own.
Giving full benefit of the doubt to each of opposing contentions is a challenge, but can be enlightening.
You must, naturally, be most rigorous with this approach when examining reportage or position statements in books or articles.
Simply affirming one’s own bias is comforting, but false.
Have you tried wrestling around with pubmed?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=((((thimerosal%5BTitle%2FAbstract%5D)+AND+infant%5BTitle%2FAbstract%5D)+OR+neonatal%5BTitle%2FAbstract%5D)AND+autism%5BTitle%5D)+NOT+rats%5BTitle%2FAbstract%5D
Once again, a GP cautioning about believing almost any research https://youtu.be/T3ldcRYadR4
I don’t generally click links given without more context but I appreciate your comments and so I did – in case to discover a new voice. But while I was there I made a comment in terms of the cultural context of science.
Do we stand on the shoulders of giant… mistakes?
JDPatten: It is not only possible, but, in my view, highly likely that there are rare mutations in the causal chain resulting in autism. The key here is rare. The autism rate in New Jersey is now 1 in 32. This is not rare. Additionally, what is causal in those mutations? This we don’t know. In fact, the NIH has spent hundreds of millions over the past thirty years on rubbish like all that stuff on PubMed. Remember Dr. Ioaniddis. Not all rubbish, but mainly so. It would be very simple to establish as strong an association as with cigarettes and lung cancer, with vaccines and autism by doing a very large comparison between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. NIH refuses to do this. The Vaccine Safety Datalink contains a vast amount of data about the medical consequences of vaccination (mainly from Harvard Pilgrim in the East and Kaiser in the West). This information is tightly held by CDC; they refuse to allow any independent scientist to have a peek at it. They know damn well what they are doing. They are not evil people. As Dr. Thompson told Brian Hooker, “They are paralyzed.” The modern day Tuskegee, but affecting far more. During this entire period, for the past 36 years NIH has been run by a man who lacks scruples, Anthony Fauci.
AhN Seth Mnookin, author of Panic Virus, media reporter for Undark Magazine (whatever that is), media professor & a definite vaccine fan offered this on Wakefield years ago
“From the day it was published, one of the major problems with Wakefield’s original work that researchers pointed to was that it relied on parents’ post-facto recollections to determine what had or had not actually happened. Those memories weren’t a suitable substitution for actual data then…and they’re not now, either”
Fiona Godlee insisted that wakefield’s work was fabricated not just incorrect.
I would have some regard for Godlee for standing up to Professor Rory Collins while he stood up for Pfizer who funded his ”research”, but in no way influenced his pro statin angle – at all at all!
The other allegation was that wakefield was working on a lawsuit against vaccine manufacturers. (I suppose that’s not a crime – if it were true)
What? Vaccines cause autism? Really? Perish the thought. What a scurrilous suggestion. Here is the salvation for vaccines, but it might not be available for long, a rare exposure….https://youtu.be/Kji5d3MOrQM
AhN
I am being Devils advocate of a sort. We shouldn’t ignore the counter argument. What we should do, if we have the time & expertise is to forensically examine the other narrative & reveal the flaws within. I simply dont know enough about the issue to argue for or against but those who do know should do so. After all the references I made are from the mainstream and that is what we are constantly exposed to. If Prof Seth is wrong – how ? If Fiona Godlee is wrong – how ? If the argument, very much played up about money being Wakefields motive let’s hear why that is not the case or why its irrelevant. Just saying !
Just read “Callous Disregard”.
Jerome Savage: The recollections of the parents are data. When one goes to the doctor with an illness, the doctor listens (or should) carefully to what you say in order to make an informed decision about treatment options. This is the data the doctor uses. Seth Mnookian is one of prominent promoters of the idea that autism is a gift, fully ignoring the 40% or so of those severely afflicted. It is certainly known in the industry and among regulators that there are “hot lots” of vaccines, individual production runs which cause higher levels of injuries. This is why manufacturers are allowed to break up lots and ship them to different parts of the U.S. With no other pharmaceutical product is this allowed, for obvious reasons of tracing. Which raises the question, were the Lancet twelve injuries related to a hot lot?
Gary You certainly present a robust challenge to the vaccine orthodoxy, U got your homework done, to be commended and encourages me to dig deeper. Can someone really argue that autism is a gift? What ?
We have and are the right and the freedom to uncover a gift in anything – but no one has the right to usurp or pre-empt that by their own imposition.
There is both a beloved, and a heartbreak compounded by injustice – under which one either deepens a faith in life for the living, or loses it to a cover story seeking lockstep agreements to set against the pain of not only the above – but also shame of self betrayal.
This pattern is also seen in covid-mind-masking as mind capture under an escape-narrative from self-conflicted fear. It is a very hard place to be in when your sense of self and world fall apart. That’s the last place we would go – and so we often try to leave it to the very last minute and never actually share the gift of a life we are effectively running away from.
Full post on
https://doctoringthedata.blogspot.com/2020/05/we-have-and-are-right-and-freedom-to.html
Sorry Binra
Read that twice & still cant quite grasp your message
Jerome, Can we move on? Whomever this is he /she is a fruitcake. Sorry
This is not the blog for name calling. If you disagree with someone, fine, but name calling is used by big pharma, global warmists, and such like, when they have no case.
I regard your comment as exactly what a disinfo troll would get paid for, by sowing discord, undermining trust and limiting communication under cover of pretended familiarity. It seems to be a habit of yours. If you have something of substance to say – man up and say it.
Why Malcolm do you give any support to posts of no point but scapegoating smear and incitement to social exclusion?
I include myself by reason of interest and participation in the issues and themes raised. If you are only looking for what gratifies your personal terms and conditions – then you must meet so much to despise in your life and yet take such satisfaction pushing it from your mind.
But your mind is going with it.
The underlying issue behind the covid19 pretext is control of communication.
Masking as a need to protect life – while actually feeding more control to a destructive control agenda. That infantilised and mindless people are induced to suck on and applaud!
If you can show evidence to the contrary, I welcome hearing it. If you want to shut me down then I identify you as that agenda – regardless your presentation of ‘matey’ direction as if the moderator is absent and the inmates can take over the asylum. I’m not saying you cant try. But then you get your results in kind. The same will apply to mad people who try to rule the world.
Now that was easy to understand. Basically, you tend to write in jargon and use what are unfamiliar terms to most people – that’s what is meant by “fruitcake”. If you wrote in plainer language, you’d probably find that most people agree with you or can at least understand what you have to say and comment accordingly
I appreciate your response, but I am not writing from the predicates that are – to my understanding – the frame from which the problem is built-in – and this is why the reader’s mind of such a conditioned or habitual presumption is not fed. It simply cannot translate into the old wine bottles and nor is that my desire. But that doesn’t mean there is no bridge the the reader’s recognition.
Bringing into a mainstreamed attention can indeed popularise ideas in seeking and finding agreement – but then the message is adulterated and diluted into marketing – which doesn’t have to be for money – but for validation, self-reinforcement or attempt to lockstep alliances against feared or hated ‘others’.
So I rest – truly rest – in the meanings that I share. And yet I am aware they are often very compressed or ‘intense’ – there’s enough in a paragraph sometimes to make a chapter.
But if a long slow process of adaptation is offered, be sure that the ego – or self-manipulative mind – will learn to pass off as true. That’s it job description – and our learned expertise.
The sudden shift of recognition is not the refinements of a ‘babylonian structure’ of levels by which to define, divide and control – but a direct intuition – without any intermediary to your own being.
The apparent conflict between a ‘fear and control mindset’ and the direct intuition or felt quality of life is coming up to a head. But it isn’t a conflict OUT there – it is our choice, now.
But a choice of priority – not of exclusivity. By all means let us use the mind and systems of control to serve the living. But not to replace it – or there simply is no living.
continued at
https://doctoringthedata.blogspot.com/2020/05/living-from-wholeness-shift-of.html
Sorry, I really am too stupid to understand what you are saying. To me, it sounds like a corporate meeting – lots of things said but no clear meaning. And I’m certain that’s not what you intend. I really wish you could use some more familiar metaphors.
Can we please avoid personal insults. I am happy for people to insult ideas, to debate forcefully. However, the general rule is that it is perfectly OK to say that, for example, ‘I think your idea is stupid.’ Not, however, to say ‘I think you are stupid.’ One allows debate about the idea, the other creates upset, anger and antagonism.
OK! 🍰 🍰 🍰
It is your freedom to recognise and accept (and share in) any appreciation for anything or anyone in your life. It is not mine to TELL you what is or should be a gift. So whatever anyone else says – so what?
For some a severe health crisis gives a wake up to truly live this day well – for others its fear cripples them even more than the condition.
You cant tell the fearful that their condition is a gift. But that does not mean it is not there to be discovered. Everything is what we make of it.
I look to fully own what is mine. And release what is not.
I have had tragic events in my life that I accept now as gifts.
This is not my freedom or right to put on anyone else – but of course I automatically am a witness for the choices I make. As are you for yours.
When someone seeks to impose upon our life, we have an opportunity to recognise a potential violation of our integrity and refuse to give consent. Or learn what happens when we trash ourselves to please or appease others.
The key to communication is not dumbing down but opening relationship.
We have become a society of the lowest common denominator – in which everyone sacrifices for the weakest link or for the computer modelled weakest link.
Jerome Savage: More good reading here:
https://thevaccinereaction.org/2020/05/why-operation-warp-speed-could-be-deadly/
JDPatten: This is another occasion where wikipedia has chosen to discredit an honorable scientist, as they did to Dr. Kendrick and have done to others. In her case, Anthony Fauci is behind it. Read about Robert Gallo and the HIV/AIDS fiasco. Gallo only narrowly escaped prosecution for scientific misconduct. Fauci and Gallo are pals. I had the pleasure of meeting Dr. Mikovits. She really did groundbreaking work on ME/CFS. She told me that she has been blacklisted from all federal employment, after twenty years at the National Cancer Institute.
JDP The courts exonerated Thompson & two others involved with the report and lashed out at the medical board for removing their license to practice, very critical of the medical powers.
Wakefieldstill has not taken his case to the courts. They say its because he lacks the means, didnt have professional indemnity cover.
However, John Walker-Smith who headed the team of which Andrew was a member, did have the means, and took his case to court and was exonerated. Therefore by implication so should Andrew Wakefield have been. Andrew can no longer take the case to appeal as he did not have the means, and then ran out of the time limits allowed. This was a stitch-up, to vilify Wakefield and warn others disagreeing with the political narrative their careers could also be terminated.
AhNotepad: Correct. The only additional GMC charge against Dr. Wakefield concerned a blood draw of children at a birthday party, done by medical professionals with the consent of the parents and children, for which they received 5 quid. Odd way to get blood, but not unprofessional, hardly deserving of vilification. Those who are interested in justice (and who understand British better than I) should read Justice Mitting’s ruling in Professor Walker-Smith’s case. More or less drives a stake into the hearts of those morons at the GMC.
Jerome Savage: Dr. Wakefield actually did take BMJ and Fiona Godlee to court in Texas for libel. The case was thrown out on a technicality (the judge asserted that BMJ has no physical presence in Texas), and never heard on the merits. The only other defendant (and senior author on the Lancet paper) convicted by the GMC, Professor John Walker-Smith was fully exonerated by the British High Court, who quashed all charges, Justice Mitting’s decision excoriating the GMC for incompetence. Anyone who relies on Wikipedia, Retraction Watch, Snopes, or any of the media for truth will oft be led astray, although not always.
Gary, re your comment: The only additional GMC charge against Dr. Wakefield concerned a blood draw of children at a birthday party…
Here’s Andrew Wakefield’s explanation: https://vaxxedthemovie.com/dr-andrew-wakefield-deals-with-allegations/
Yes, the blood samples at my son’s birthday party. In order to study the children with autism, we were examining their blood samples. We needed blood samples from healthy children. Of course, in hospital you don’t see healthy children. You see children who are sick, and so my wife suggested that we have a birthday party coming up, maybe we can get some blood from our children and children at the birthday party? I thought that was a reasonable idea. It was done with fully informed child and parental consent. Fully informed. It was entirely ethical. It was no worse, for example, than going to CVS and having a shot. In fact, probably substantially better. It was done by a highly experienced general practitioner, not by me. There were no problems at all.
The only problem was that it did not have an approval from the Hospital Ethics Committee. That does not make it unethical. It was done, as I say, with fully informed child and parental consent. That’s the story. Do I regret it? Yes. Not because it was unethical, it wasn’t, but because it gave the General Medical Council a concrete reason for them taking away my license. It was a mistake, and if I did it again, I would do so with the appropriate ethical approval, and so therefore, it’s something I regret. Was it at any stage unethical? No.
It’s very interesting to me that Andrew Wakefield was censured for the taking of these blood samples, because for years now I’ve been arguing that parents should be offered the option of an antibody titre test, i.e. a blood test, after the first dose of MMR, to check if the child has responded before being given a potentially arbitrary second dose with these live vaccines. You will note this is not an ‘anti-vaccination’ suggestion…but I’ve met fierce resistance to it…
There is a precedent for antibody titre testing after the first dose of MMR, i.e. the Antibody Titer Law (Holly’s Law) in the US state of New Jersey – see my BMJ rapid response for info: Measles vaccination and antibody titre testing: https://www.bmj.com/content/365/bmj.l1932/rr-16
Re the controversial ‘early report’ co-authored by Andrew Wakefield and published in The Lancet in February 1998. This early report concluded: We have identified a chronic enterocolitis in children that may be related to neuropsychiatric dysfunction. In most cases, onset of symptoms was after measles, mumps, and rubella immunisation. Further investigations are needed to examine this syndrome and its possible relation to this vaccine.
This early report and its suggestion for ‘further investigations’ certainly had far-reaching impact for Andrew Wakefield. Hardly a day goes by that Wakefield isn’t referred to somewhere in the media as ‘the disgraced doctor’… Anyone might think the continuing opprobrium was orchestrated…after all, have to make sure any other doctors or academics who dare to question the status quo know what fate awaits them…
Reference:
RETRACTED: Ileal-lymphoid-nodular hyperplasia, non-specific colitis, and pervasive developmental disorder in children: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(97)11096-0/fulltext
Elizabeth
In a nutshell, is it fair to say that no one can contest the report itself, a side issue was that subsequent permission for taking children’s blood samples from the GMC was not sought following permission received from parents ?
Hi Jerome, I’m not across the whole complicated Wakefield saga, as my original introduction to investigating the vaccination racket was via gross over-vaccination of pets, i.e. when one of my dogs became very ill and was put down after repeated over-vaccination with live vaccine products. Unbeknownst to me at the time, specialists in veterinary medicine were warning to decrease vaccination of pets to minimise the risk of adverse reactions. When I started investigating this area, it occurred to me why wasn’t the over-use of vaccine products also being considered in humans, with umpteen doses of lucrative vaccines and revaccinations now being pressed upon children and increasingly adults?
Of course investigating the vaccine industry one couldn’t help but become aware of the Wakefield/MMR/autism case, but I tended to avoid this as it was such a contentious issue, and I and others were initially successful in getting attention for the over-vaccination of pets in Australia.
But the Wakefield issue is fundamental to where we are now in considering vaccination policy because vaccination policy has been colonised by people associated with the vaccine industry, and they will do anything to shut down any questioning of vaccine products. The hostility and censorship that hinders discussion of vaccination policy is important to be mindful of now in regards to the questionable ‘race for the coronavirus vaccine’.
Consider the very serious conflicts of interest in vaccination policy… What do you think about people who are involved with vaccine clinical trials also being involved in recommending vaccine products for taxpayer-funded vaccination schedules, i.e. influencing policy?
For example, Professor Andrew Pollard of the Oxford Vaccine Group is Chair of the (UK) Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, which “advises UK health departments on immunisation”. https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/joint-committee-on-vaccination-and-immunisation
Andrew Pollard is also a leader of the Oxford team involved in ‘COVID-19 vaccine development’. https://www.ovg.ox.ac.uk/news/covid-19-vaccine-development
What do you think about that?
My first encounter with vaccine-induced problems was also nothing to do with Wakefield, but when, as a second-time mother, my son was due his first shots and I duly took him along, at the tender age of 8 weeks, for those because “that’s what you did”. Within a couple of days, he broke out in the most horrendous eczema after developing an abscess at the injection site which oozed pus for ages (and subsequently left him with a hard lump under the skin for years.) The second set, a month later, produced the same abscess (and hard lump) even though that time they administered the injection into his bottom!
I had started to look into the vaccination issue when my daughter was due her MMR, which had only come out the previous year, and happened to pick up a leaflet at a health ‘festival’ warning about the measles vaccine (which had already been used for some time on its own in various parts of the UK) and autoimmune disease in adults. Still nothing about Wakefield. But after the eczema incident, I really got into finding out more – which horrified me (and still does!)
Only relatively recently did I discover that the hard lumps that my son developed were ‘granulomas’, produced by the body to attempt, it is said, to prevent the aluminium in the adjuvants from spreading around the body. Biopsies of these have found metallic aluminium – which makes sense to me as the first vaccines he had was the DPT/Polio which would have had 4 lots of aluminium adjuvant combined in the one (or 2?) vaccine(s).
Even more recently, having watched a few videos featuring Robert F Kennedy Jnr and Judy Mikovits talking about the various labs in the US manipulating coronaviruses and her assertion that some of these things have been put into some of the flu vaccines in the recent past – and that makes people more susceptible to extreme illness when exposed to Covid-19, have I begun to wonder whether they are actually correct! Most NHS staff are ‘encouraged’ to have an annual flu vaccine, as are the elderly – yet people like Prince Charles who advocate homeopathy and most likely wouldn’t have had a flu shot recover very quickly, despite being 70-odd.
So I’m beginning to become very suspicious about it all and the fact that Bill Gates’ only way to ‘help’ the health of developing countries seems to be via a vaccine and not by funding sanitation, nutrition and all the things we’ve been told helped reduce the epidemics we had historically, that were all declining even before the vaccine programme began.
elizabethhart: Thanks. Here is a good, comprehensive article about what happened to Dr. Wakefield:
https://ahrp.org/laffaire-wakefield-shades-of-dreyfus-bmjs-descent-into-tabloid-science/
Elizabeth
I appreciate where you are coming from – Wakefield is a side issue. Just looking for a one liner for that person who preaches to me about how vaccines are going to save the world. A perfected simple one liner may be a knockout punch or may draw them in so they can be dispensed with thro a few short jabs ! (Pun not unintended) Nurse at my GPs comes to mind.
Jerome Savage: Just make some copies of the graphs for mortality rates of the common infectious diseases during the 20th Century, with the dates of the introduction of the vaccines for those diseases, and hand them out. Perfectly clear and graphic that vaccines had nothing at all to do with the reduction in mortality from these diseases. No need for a one-liner (like most people, I always think of a great riposte to stupidity too late).
Are you presuming a right to force people to accept that they are willingly putting their children in harm’s way – by an expression of their protective love?
The idea of waking other people up is another form of virtue signalling is it not?
When people are ready they are already coming into contact with information or experience from outside their bubble. Perhaps if they are not ready, they focus on the self-righteous pushiness (such as we can all at some time enact), that reinforces retreat and defence instead of willingness to listen.
The art of discerning the true will in others and joining them might first honour their current choice as their right, without reinforcing it as right. In relationships we are always a beginner – or else we jump in with assumptions taken from another context. I quite understand that our own emotional outrage is both maddening and unhelpful – unless it can be channelled to learning how better to be a channel or serve a channel of communication.
However, Elizabeth is exemplifying an approach that may find a willingness to listen – or at least seed to possibility of questioning an accepted certainty, or emotionally invested commitment.
As soon as we engage in our own moral judgement of others – rather than illuminate the questionable, fraudulent or destructive behaviour of others, we muddy our own signal by using it to get satisfaction of an emotional charge dump – and often with the signal smugness of believing that just for now, we put them in their place!
Much of the pharmaceutical and perhaps all of the ‘biological’ or vaccination issue rests on a model of disease as pathogenically CAUSED by microbiota and viruses, along with a model of immunity as a battle set against such malign ‘hijackers’.
A cat and mouse game between system and hacker operates the progressive lockdown and lock-in of the user. By the way – the Internet is essential for the implementation and maintaining and normalising of lockdown and lockstepping compliance.
‘Where Do You Want To Go Today?’ said the Spider to the fly.
How far upstream to the cascade of symptoms and whack-a-mole displacement effects are we willing to question?
Within any issue is the liability to become define by what you oppose, resist or disagree with – sometimes quite invisibly. That’s why the information we need to take our next step is often hidden in or behind the forms of what we deny, or hold anathema.
Malcolm X is quoted to have said: “I’m for truth, no matter who tells it. I’m for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.”
Identity investments will absolutely block and lock in a negative confirmation bias. Such that if someone or something representative of what you are against says it – it MUST be a matter of opposition and ridicule.
It isn’t the rich who cant let themselves into heaven, but those who mistake their identity-investment as riches set over truth.
anglosvizzera, re your son’s experience with aluminium-adjuvanted vaccine products…
In Australia there are twelve aluminium-adjuvanted vaccine injections on the taxpayer-funded National Immunisation Program Schedule, i.e. aluminium-adjuvanted injections including hepatitis B, diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio, Haemophilus influenzae type B, pneumococcal, and human papillomavirus. In South Australia babies also have three doses of aluminium-adjuvanted meningococcal B vaccine, making fifteen doses of aluminium-adjuvanted vaccines for children in South Australia.
There’s been an explosion in the number of aluminium-adjuvanted vaccine products given to children since 2004, after a systematic review of aluminium and vaccine safety was published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal, titled: Adverse events after immunisation with aluminium-containing DTP vaccines: systematic review of the evidence. (This review, which has impacted on vaccination policy, is behind the paywall of the LID, i.e. not open access to public scrutiny.)
It’s notable that this review was funded by the World Health Organisation, an organisation which is severely compromised by its associations with the vaccine industry and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation which, as we know, is exerting enormous influence over international vaccination policy and the burgeoning number of lucrative vaccine products promoted now.
The authors of the WHO-funded review which defended the use of aluminium in vaccines concluded: We found no evidence that aluminium salts in vaccines cause any serious or long-lasting adverse events.
However, the authors also admitted that: Overall, the methodological quality of included studies was low. Few reports gave details of the randomisation process, allocation concealment, reasons for withdrawals, or strategies to deal with them in analysis. Inconsistencies in reporting, lack of clarity on numerators and denominators, variability of outcome definitions, and lack of outcome definitions led to much loss of data.
In layman’s terms, this systematic review was ‘garbage in / garbage out’…
I suggest the 2004 review on aluminium and (DTP) vaccine safety is scientifically unsound and should not be relied upon to justify the safety of the many aluminium-adjuvanted vaccine products and revaccinations on current international vaccination schedules.
The authors of the review admitted that Overall, the methodological quality of included studies was low and that there was a lack of good-quality evidence.
In my opinion, the authors should have concluded there was not sufficient evidence to come to conclusions about the safety of aluminium in vaccine products, and that further research was needed on this subject. Instead, they recommended against any further research on this topic, a bizarre recommendation which has had far-reaching effects.
This is just one example of the rubbish ‘peer-reviewed literature’ that helps to underpin the lucrative and burgeoning vaccination racket…
elizabethhart: Thank you for your incisive commentary. Rubbish it indeed is. Vaccine policy is based upon rubbish and nothing more. God help us.
Yes, I’m so glad he was born in 1990 when the UK schedule was far smaller. In any case, once I’d started to look into the whole thing, he had no further vaccines and my 2 younger children had none (until they got jobs with the NHS and had to have the MMR and were recommended the Hep B. One of them had it and the other found out that she could sign a waiver and refuse it.)
I’m aware of the research of Professor Chris Exley in to the harmful effects of aluminium on living organisms (from all sources) and how to remove it safely using high-silicon mineral water.
Jerome, re a one liner for that person who preaches to me about how vaccines are going to save the world.
You could try Do you know about all the conflicts of interest that tarnish vaccination policy and the never-ending stream of vaccine products?
The general public has been trained to think of vaccines as magic bullets…but cracks are emerging…and being covered up…e.g. problems with vaccines such as pertussis, measles, mumps, HPV etc…
The clergy of the Church of Vaccination refuse to countenance any questioning of their dogma, and heretics are marginalised and censored.
There’s a massive global web supporting the development of lucrative vaccine markets…the system is so rotten from the top down, where to start in demanding accountability?
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation appears to be running the show, which includes the vaccine manufacturers of course, and Gavi, the WHO, the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI), the US CDC and NIH, universities, politicians, doctors’ associations, the media…etc, etc… So many are involved with this gravy train, including in Australia where a clique of vaccine-industry associated academics dominates vaccination policy here and internationally.
The general public is on the receiving end of a never-ending stream of ‘arguments from authority’ promoting vaccine products, courtesy of the corporate media and government/taxpayer-funded media, but there’s precious little critical analysis of vaccination policy, and stifling of any who dare to challenge the status quo…
It’s really shocking to comprehend how conflicted and compromised the system has become…
Gates – while an active player – has been incorporated into his current role within a cartel monopolism that masks as globalism – in terms of global masking in ‘tackling global problems’ and ‘making a better world’ – which includes such holy orders as the ‘eradication of (insert value)’. But all of which are simply PR or the manipulation of our own thought, word and emotional response as a means to either recruit a proxy leverage or undermine any check or boundary to a monopoly of ‘broad spectrum’ control.
Control that is robbed of its own intent of plunder, rape and subjection, by the insanity of the ‘gods’ – or re-enactment of archetypes of arbitrary power set over and upon the living. So I see the persons or agencies of such a control as an expression of the terrain and not as independent psycho-pathogenic powers. And Gates is clearly a front man for the band – that is to say a projecting image of kindly ageing concern and generous commitment to use the fruits of a ruthlessly acquired and effective monopoly control system, for ‘solving the world’s problems’.
Anyone who doesn’t WANT to look at the disturbing underbelly to our world can find a ‘positive’ comfort and support for their world-view in applauding him. This pattern is being literally ritualised. (My MP responded to concerns of conflict of interest with refusal to take them seriously – along with a gushing account of the unquestionable merits of everything Gates represents. As his OPINION was not what was asked of him, but his duty of official responsibility, the demand for representation persists).
At a historical political level the development of cartel monopoly is associated with corporate and banking cartels that acquired the insider benefits of new industrial and technological leverage.
So though it goes back further, ‘Rockefeller’ expansion and control set the restructuring of society and governmental institutions as a captive revenue stream – while handing out a few dimes for the narrative PR. This is completely embodies in the military industrial as well as the medical industrial complex – as an active and powerful orchestration of perceived and believed self-interest. While there are conspirational facets, it is largely hidden in plain sight, by the capture of the public mind in narrative identity diversions that for our own reasons, we buy into on some level, even by emotionally reacting against them as an ‘anti-whatever’.
Re-educating our selves regarding our actual history can provide more understanding of how things became what they have, but doesn’t in itself resolve – and can reinforce despair. So I embrace a psycho-physical or integrative approach of uncovering the patterns of fear and control seeking immunity from change by setting itself as the arbiter of change. Insane – but readily observable in our world, others and our selves.
The threat to the vaccination mindset, is not disease, but disregard resulting release of a false model of disease and immunity. One of the things going on it the very intense restatement of its right to rule (Medical tyranny). But the bringing of a covert fear and control to overt dictate is a replacement of fear of disease by fear of social exclusion and state imposed pain or penalty running on the pretext of disease. And so ‘believing’ the pretext is necessary to protect you life, your career, funding or ability to provide for your family, and status and privilege as a member of society.
Fixating on details about any lesser evil is then safer than calling the pretext into question.
In another post recently I touched on a personality that would rather die than experience deep emotional upset, and in projection of itself onto others, rather ‘kindly’ murder its own than subject or expose them to such upset. This is the balance point of whether opening our mind to a greater perspective delivers us to psychosis or to an expanded integration at a new level.
Insulating our mind from our fears is NOT immunity, but a dangerous and deceitful counterfeit. We need to own and face and grow responsibility rather than be infantilised to a dead end dependency.
Regardless what ‘Gated’ governments (sic) intend, or manage to implement, we will meet waves of fear that are infectious if not brought into responsibility, and when people do not accept or recognise where they have responsible choice to make, they oblige or demand others to make choices for them. Not everyone who rushes in to help has your safety as their paramount concern. Even less so when all the measures are already in place to seamlessly contain and neutralise the viruses of mass destruction (VMDs).
To look upon the gates of hell and know this is NOT who you are, is to allow a true foundation to move as an awareness within.
Thanks Elizabeth
I see your reference to Gavi.
Our own Prime Minister has donated €18mil to Gavi.
My first thoughts on this was, why are our taxpayers donating to a thing that’s set up by the worlds richest man ? When our PM is rubbing shoulders with other EU leaders presumably he will feel that he fits in a little better.
https://www-irishtimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-ireland-pledges-18-million-to-vaccine-alliance-gavi-1.4244811?amp_js_v=a3&_gsa=1&mode=amp&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15888027633652&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fhealth%2Fcovid-19-ireland-pledges-18-million-to-vaccine-alliance-gavi-1.4244811
Most people equate vaccines with staying safe on foreign exotic holidays and the public increasingly demands a quick fix for each & every potential drawback. The corporate world is responding, potential for mega money (nothing new there) & maybe an narcissistic pied piper hoping to gain a bit of the old sainthood status- in to the bargain.
Many conflicts of interest developing and being allowed to develop.
anglosvizzera, re the systematic review re aluminium and vaccine safety…
The authors of this review were associated with Cochrane, i.e. what was then known as the Cochrane Vaccines Field. It’s really odd that this WHO-funded review was published behind the paywall of The Lancet Infectious Diseases, rather than in the Cochrane Library…
I was flabbergasted when I found and read this review back in 2013. If you want to have a look, here’s the email I sent to the lead author Tom Jefferson: https://elizabethhart.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/email-to-tom-jefferson-re-cochrane-aluminium-and-vaccine-safety-review.pdf
Steve R and AHNotepad: Covid-19 interview with Dr Judy Mikovits on mercola.com:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/05/03/is-the-new-coronavirus-created-in-a-lab.aspx
I learned a lot about this from ‘Fear of the Invisible’ by Janina Roberts – including industry insider concerns about this going way back.
But Gates and others new approach is more in the DNA splicing realm and not through the animal channel. (‘Passaging’ the viral vaccine culture through various animals).
So allowing that a virus is a bit of code, Gates is in the hacking business or rather the funding directing and marketing of the hacking business.
Windows was deliberately full of holes and back doors – for admin purposes.
I think he sees great potential in the human genome.
Here is a link to the Judy Mikovits interview with Dr Mercola
Interesting, she mentions that inflammation from infection can be reduced by the Endocannabinoid system by blocking the CB2 receptor with CBD oil. Judy also states that she’s not afraid of any virus because she has a strong immune system.
Maybe Malcolm can dive into the Endocannabinoid system someday?
elizabethhart: Words of wisdom from the Harvard dropout. Chilling indeed.
“Who the hell is Bill Gates to deliberately scupper a vaccine safety commission? How are Bill and Melinda Gates wielding so much power, these unelected people who are dabbling and interfering in the lives of billions? ” Excuse me, but this is totally illogical. You are quoting Bill Gates VOICING HIS OPINION in a conversation with THE PRESIDENT OF THE US. The only person who could “scupper” the commission, then, was Trump, because he is the decision-maker; the boss, in other words. So – who is this Bill Gates person to deliberately express his opinion to an elected official? A citizen of a country dedicated to free speech, no less (America is still that, I hope?). And it is the job of the elected official – especially the highest of them all – to *choose the best recommendation to follow*. Short but not sweet: if the president of the US is silly enough to make decisions about health isssues on the basis of a programmer’s say-so, then it is the president who is the problem, not the programmer.
Faolan, yes, I argue that Bill Gates scuppered the “commission to look into ill-effects of vaccines”, i.e. Gates publicly admits he said “…no, that’s a dead end, that would be a bad thing, don’t do that…”. And yes, as you indicate, it seems Trump went along with the advice of this powerful and privileged citizen as there is no US commission into vaccine safety. Which is a great shame as it might have gone some way to redressing the problems created by the US National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, which was created in the 1980s, and which effectively reduces vaccine manufacturers’ liability for vaccine products.
See for example this article from 2014 which discusses the ‘vaccine court’: https://apnews.com/637dbaa7b993454981320907b0972cf6
It can be very difficult to have adverse events after vaccination acknowledged, as they may often be met with the ‘correlation is not causation’ fob-off. My position is to be very careful about vaccination and revaccination interventions and the evidence behind them because, if things go wrong, you’re likely to be on your own to deal with the consequences.
In regards to potential vaccine problems, I’m asking questions and raising issues, and not very impressed by the response…or lack thereof…from ‘the authorities’.
For example, a few years ago I came across some research which indicated that mothers who had been vaccinated against measles passed on maternally derived antibodies which waned earlier in their babies, as compared to the babies of mothers who were naturally infected with measles. This is highly alarming as the babies of vaccinated mothers may be vulnerable to measles at an earlier age when they are less equipped to deal with disease, and we need to think about the ramifications of this for future generations. I raised this matter in The BMJ rapid responses, see for example: Measles vaccination – is anyone worried about shorter term maternally derived antibodies via vaccinated mothers? https://www.bmj.com/content/362/bmj.k3976/rr-3 I have found that while The BMJ might publish such queries, it does little or nothing to follow through…
Thanks to the efforts of Bill Gates and others, consideration of the possible ‘ill-effects of vaccines’ is being scuppered. There’s a ‘Church of Vaccination’ that deliberately hinders discussion of emerging vaccine problems, and tags people who raise such matters as ‘anti-vaxxers’. This ‘anti-vaxxer’ labelling appears to be an orchestrated campaign to discredit and marginalise people questioning vaccination policy.
Now we have myriad groups in the race for coronavirus vaccines, and the likely fast-tracking of these products for the entire global population if Bill Gates has his way. But we really need to think about whether a vaccine is the way to go here, particularly as many people, particularly younger people, do not seem to be too adversely affected by the virus – so is it ethical that a “COVID-19 vaccine will become part of the routine newborn immunization schedule”, as mooted by Bill Gates? https://www.gatesnotes.com/Health/What-you-need-to-know-about-the-COVID-19-vaccine
These are matters which require transparent consideration, but will Bill Gates use his power and influence to scupper this discussion?
elizabethhart: Thank you. By the way, the NCVIA of 1986 doesn’t reduce manufacturer’s liability, it completely eliminates it. A tiny crack has left in the door by the act, allowing civil suits for “design defects,” but the Supreme Court slammed it shut in Bruesewitz v. Wyeth (2011), after Donna Shalala, Clinton’s Secretary of HHS removed “residual seizure disorder” from the vaccine injury table for DPT (in 1995, 24 days before Russ Bruesewitz filed the claim for his daughter). Sixteen years (now twenty-five) of justice denied.
Re: ‘Bill Gates is behind it all sir you say, pushing for mandatory vaccines for all diseases. You think it’s like something out of 1984. Well, Mr Gates is an expert in viruses sir, is he not…His operating system did allow a massive attack on IT systems in the NHS in 2017 sir. Now, if you will excuse me, I have more snake oil to sell… tatty bye sir, and good luck to you.’
Here’s Bill Gate’s recent perspective as published in The New England Journal of Medicine, 30 April 2020 – Responding to Covid-19 – A Once-in-a-Century Pandemic? https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2003762
BG is on top of it… Presumably healthcare workers will be the first to access any vaccines?
The world also needs to accelerate work on treatments and vaccines for Covid-19.5 Scientists sequenced the genome of the virus and developed several promising vaccine candidates in a matter of days, and the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations is already preparing up to eight promising vaccine candidates for clinical trials. If some of these vaccines prove safe and effective in animal models, they could be ready for larger-scale trials as early as June…
I have been taking a Vit D supplement, to try and prevent SAD, live in the North of the UK, of my entire dept (minor injuries) I have had the last Sx following covid19 infection.
I just now happened to pull out one of the greatest books relating to the catastrophy of our “modern eating habits” from my bulging book shelf.
Guess what book!
Well, it is the book written by Weston Price after he had scrutinized the remaining “natural peoples” in the 1930th, i.e. those peoples who by then still had not been incorporated in the grain based way of living in the western world.
“Nutrition and Physical Degeneration”
published in 1938.
When you have read this book and being ignorant to start with of what you put in your mouth you will not come out the same person when you have finished!
It is about science!
Elizabeth:
Thank you. Yes, how could anyone doubt this ghastly man’s self-interest and other horrible motives when he wants to have newborn babies vaccinated against something that doesn’t even affect children? I wish people would wake up to what is pending if we carry on lending this man our ears and kowtowing to him. Every time I think of him I feel sick.
Some readers may be interested in the following:
Click to access galanti_shaman_ms_supp.pdf
This experiment with common-cold type CoVs seems to confirm that the spike protein of this class of virus presents an unusually weak antigen to the humoral immune system (i.e. B cells).
I have been arguing this based upon observations of SARS-CoV-2 for quite a while:
a. Markedly unlike flu, toddlers with immature adaptive immunity have the least complications from CoVID-19. There is a steep and continuous relationship between age and risk from oldest to youngest.
b. There is a long incubation time with little to no upper respiratory symptoms (i.e. inflammation or innate immune response).
c. There appears to be an unusually large increase in risk from continuous exposure (e.g. medical workers). This would be consistent with a lack of B-cell response/stimulation.
d. There is a strong correlation of severity of complications/progression and certain biomarkers of innate-immune and T-cell response. Uncoated (by antibodies) pathogens are uncompromised and go unmarked for destruction by leukocytes in the extracellular space, making overall immune response less efficient and requiring more cell destruction.
e. Comorbidities of cellular ill health, which themselves are simply tissue-specific accelerated aging conditions, are heavily correlated with complications too.
Vaccines will likely require a long time to become available as always, because despite much faster means of R&D (with newer tech) the trials requirements remain the same. They should be more accurate than for seasonal flu due to much slower mutation rates, but poorer stimulation of antibodies is likely to be a compensatory factor.
There is likely a natural negative feedback of humoral response — i.e. those exposed who generate the more robust antibodies response will probably be those who suffered longer and worse complications and replicated more virus / generated more viral load.
Epidemically, this would translate to a smaller herd-immunity effect than with flu and most other respiratory contagions. The good news is that the pathogen is a weak one, but the bad news is that a significant portion of the population is at risk for pneumonia and death.
The virus will probably become seasonal but wither away by mutation (to lower virulence) and increasing elimination year-by-year of the most susceptible.
Best prospects IMO are for more effective interventions targetting the CoVID-specific pneumonia itself. This miight include anti-clotting therapies.
Vit D is likely to be a prophylactic like no other, but its administration will require wisdom on the part of the population at large. The public officials have gotten everything wrong so far, and will continue to if unimpeded by the electrorate(s).
My own anecdotal experience is that I most probably was infected with SARS-CoV-2. I had a mild (i.e. easily willfully suppressed) dry cough with notable but very mild upper respiratory symptoms for ten days. At first I thought a flu was coming on, but then realized the symptoms were very different.
I have a severe genotype/phenotype of CVID. I produce almost no antibodies whatsoever in response to most antigens and vaccines (e.g. zero a/b’s across all titers before/after Pneumovax-23 challenge, for those familiar with clinical PID diagnostics). I do not respond to flu vaccinations at all, and get flu almost every year — multiple times/strains on average. I have developed a compensation by upregulating innate immune response, but for influenza virus in particular this is apparently ineffective.
I am 61 1/2 years old and my symptoms (if indeed from CoVID-19) were so mild that I would not have noticed except for the fact of my PID (primary immunodeficiency) and consequent alertness. I supplement 10k IU vit D3 daily and also use a UV-B tanner (in home) regularly. I also run 20 miles in the woods weekly — my respiratory health (a common and lethal problem in CVID) is well above average.
Of course I can never be meaningfully tested for SARS-2-specific antibodies.
Very interesting review. Thanks.
I know that Dr.K also thinks that an anti-coagulant would be helpful, but having seen RBCs moving though capillaries, there seems to be little space for some anti-coagulant ‘grease’ as a RBC completely fills the capillary – presumably to make the process of oxygen transfer most efficient. I am, of course, being facetious when I say ‘grease’ as the effect of anti-coagulants must be to either increase charge on RBCs or to ‘relax’ capillaries, but the physics there to be seen.
I keep banging on about it, but there is research that shows RBCs in an ascorbic acid deficient plasma are less flexible and even described as ‘brittle’. Surely this would make the passage through capillaries in the lung less easy and in Covid-19 where micro blood-clots have been noted might be a direct result of depletion of the anti-oxidant ascorbic acid.
Does anyone know whether micro blood-clots are a feature of scurvy for instance?
Hi Ken, I also live next to, and run in a forest (I currently try to do a 1 1/2 hour run about 4/5-times week). Also, when allowed to (Bah!), I play golf on our forest course (about 4/5 times a week). Anyway, you might be interested in this vid on ‘forest bathing’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgDjVEpEOdQ. Our two course Green Keepers (who have about 82 years of service between them!) have never had the flu (they are always as brown as berries with high sunshine/VitD exposure). Currently, one GK (72-years old) is furloughed, but the other is still working to keep the course in ‘shape’ as we are currently not allowed to play golf here in the UK – which quite frankly is utterly stupid. On that score I would also point out that ‘flocks’ of cyclists charge around in the forest, and on our roads. Where is the sense in that in lockdown?
Hi Ken: re reinfection study. The author concludes that if reinfections happen in a family cluster then the cause might be genetic. IMO a more likely explanation would involve epigenetic factors like insulin resistance or hyperglycaemia that have a large effect on hampering T cell response. There are other factors as well such as nutrient status (D3?) that determines immune system response to a virus.
The government’s gradual education of the masses on the hard truths of lockdown continued yesterday with the chief medical officer pointing out the fundamental reality that covid is here to stay and cannot be eliminated now.
The reality that is I think only gradually dawning on some is that by officially disavowing herd immunity as the end state, we are left with only the horrifying prospect of living long term with a disease as contagious as flu that we are pretending to ourselves is as deadly as ebola. This will require long term changes to our basic way of life and to our attitudes towards social interaction and general behaviour. Behaviour formerly reserved to hygiene and infection obsessives (until this latest panic) will have to become the norm, and will in many situations be enforced by law, where social enforcement of norms (supermarkets requiring masks in order to enter etc) is not sufficient to compel compliance. Where drugs and/or vaccines are seen as beneficial, these will likely also be enforced either by law or by requirements that make it all but impossible to live a normal life without accepting them.
Ordinary diseases such as colds and flus will become more dangerous and more feared because they will be less common and the usual spread of partial or complete immunity to related diseases will be much reduced.
Welcome to the brave, new world we are creating for ourselves.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8275891/Coronavirus-eradication-technically-impossible-second-wave-winter-severe.html
A sobering thing Mark – but the “you will need to keep buying our vaccine” has been the idea all along. The man in charge (William Gates) is on record and in videos as wanting no herd immunity, so that his mandated vaccines will be the route out. $50bn gets you a lot clout.
As you allude, you will not have a life as we know it at all, unless you have the right certificates on your phone App.
As you say welcome to the brave new world. I hope we are wrong.
Mark, or to put it another way, the government is continuing with its gradual brainwashing of the general public by inciting fear of every other human being as a disease carrier unless vaccinated to give immunity.
If left to nature, there will be herd immunity, just as there is to every other disease. The diseases become weaker over time, except where humans think they can design a better human than natures edition.
Even the WHO says masks are not the answer:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/world/coronavirus-who-masks-recommendation-trnd/index.html
Drat! You have discovered the secret. Pleeeease don’t tell anyone or they will stop being frightenred then the government won’t be able to pretend to be the saviour, that they are not.
P.S. I should have explained in (e) that for an immune response dominated by cell-mediated antigenic stimulation basic cellular (aka metabolic) health is essential. Cells presenting cognate antigens (on cell membranes) must be substantially destroyed by the immune system, putting a large transient burden on the remaining cells (in lung) for function (respiration in this case).
This is part of the reason IMO that CoVID-19 recovery is so compromised by poor cellular metabolism, and points to a weak or absent humoral response.
Humoral response helps a lot, but is not necessary — I would have been long dead otherwise. A former GP (PCP in US) of mine insisted that my B cells must function more than testing indicates. This reflects lack of understanding of interaction between adaptive and innate immune systems and amongst the various leukocytes, within and without the medical profession.
Meanwhile, the antibody-like role of human LDL in non-adaptive (i.e. non-specific/selective) immunity is ignored. My LDL-c is 350mg/dL (9mmol/L) — part of my epigenetic compensation for the CVID.
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, lipophobes 🙂
Ken
Love it. The lipophobes look horrified when I say there is a positive correlation between LDL c and long healthy life
Read and skimmed through a dozen or more papers on the aerosol transmission of lung diseases, most written since 2000 in response to anticipated epidemics.
Bottom line?
Social distancing is not based on any science.
Most people ‘emit’ aerosol particles in breath, that may contain virus, that vary in size from <5microns to 1micron or less depending on the person. A particular person always ‘emits’ the same particle sizes, but the numbers increase over breathing if the person is talking and increase more when talking loudly.
Some people are super-emitters, emitting an order of magnitude more aerosol particles than the rest of us.
They also examined coughing vs breathing/talking etc and found no overall difference except that aerosols were of smaller particle sizes when breathing/talking.
It was noted that when particle sizes are larger the virus develops in the upper respiratory tract first and disease progresses less severely whereas when particles are smaller they travel deep into the lungs and manifest as a rapidly severe infection.
Think PM10 vs PM2.5
PM10 hangs in the air for less time than PM2.5, so the suggestion that particles fall to the ground within 2 metres is fanciful to say the least if you have no idea whether the person near you is a 5micron emitter or a 1micron emitter or even a super-emitter of those sized particles.
And the smaller the size the longer it hangs in the air and the easier it will be to suck it through a mask.
What I have yet to find is any studies of how long a SARS-CoV-2 virion remains ‘viable’ in aerosol form, but we are told that it remains viable on metal surfaces for more than a few minutes.
This article makes a good case for larger droplets being the main infecting agent of C19, rather than the small aerosols or surface contacts. Face masks would certainly help in that case.
COVID-19 Superspreader Events in 28 Countries: Critical Patterns and Lessons
https://quillette.com/2020/04/23/covid-19-superspreader-events-in-28-countries-critical-patterns-and-lessons/
Note also that countries where face masks were adopted early have generally suffered far less from C19. Note also that people were already used to wearing face masks because the air quality was poor, like Hong Kong, so you have to wonder why their C19 experience wasn’t as bad as northern Italy where air quality has been blamed for their bad C19 experience.
Finally, when you have a face mask on, you breathe warmer, moister air. This helps preserve your first line of defense, the mucus lining your airways. The virus is more infectious in cold dry air, probably because the mucus layer becomes thinner while warming and moistening the incoming air.
“Note also that countries where face masks were adopted early have generally suffered far less from C19”
Martin: that is a breathtakingly sweeping statement; I can only gasp at the ease these days with which such profound statements can be effortlessly and endlessly uttered.
Could be confusing causation with correlation as well perhaps?
I was down at the shops this morning. Everyone was wearing a mask. Masks are now compulsory. Do they make a difference? Well, consider these statistics:
England, population 56 million, Covid deaths 30 April = 20,483
S. Africa, population 58 million, Covid deaths 30 April = 116
Ummm, not sure comparing the UK with South Africa comes without ‘confounding factors’ such as the fact that we’re only just coming out of winter here in the UK (the usual season for respiratory illnesses), but SA is just coming out of summer…
Y’know I’m sick and tired of this endless stream of essentially useless numbers comparing this to that without context, history, REALITY! All these numbers do is confuse and frighten an already petrified population and perhaps that’s why the govt spits out useless numbers every damn day! Keep us frightened, keep us confused.
barovsky: And keep us without our concentrated vegetables. The first step they took here in the U.S. was to remove the lone inspector from the small, custom meat processors, to send them to the giant horror show meat factories. Then some of the workers in the factories got sick, and they shut those down. Farmers have no place to send their animals Perfectly healthy chickens are being slaughtered and disposed of by the millions. Next up for destruction are the pigs and cattle. Vast amounts of wholesome human food, destroyed by colossal human stupidity. I get all my pork and beef directly from farmers who use these small, custom processors. I get them in bulk (cheaper that way). Fortunately I have enough beef to last about three more months, and my pig guy still has twenty pound butts and fifteen pound shoulders, so that will keep us into June, but what then? Some states are opening up already, but not California, which has had a relatively moderate epidemic. We have a complete moron for a governor, and I’m being charitable when I characterize him that way. The great irony here is that the largest pork factory, Smithfield Foods, is owned by Chinese investors. It, too, is shut down.
So, we can thank the virus for at least one thing: shutting down industrial food! If only…
barovsky: The first thing they shut down were the non-industrial meat processors. They will be the last to reopen. The good news is that the state of Wyoming (tiny in terms of population) has just passed a bill making it easier for farmers to sell directly to the public. This is how I get my concentrated vegetables. It exploits a loophole in USDA regulations; I am technically the owner of the cow prior to slaughter. My concentrated vegetables have never been inspected, and all the packages say “Not for Sale.” But they surely are safer to eat than the inspected stuff. It is grass-finished that is crucial, because most cattle are raised on grass until a few months before slaughter, at which time the industry ships them to feed lots to fatten them up with crap, including outdated “foods” like bread and donuts. Really.
Bio-genetically created lab-‘meat’ coming to Save Your World Soon!
Where would we be without the kind Mr Gates?
The whole thing started with the Green Revolution (Big Ag) and has been inexorably replacing a commonwealth with greed for profit and control.
I find there are those who seek to discern the truth and those who seek to determine what is to be believed by themselves of others.
So I don’t blame the numbers.
I wait an update but the ‘swiss doctor’ site collects stats, interviews and studies conveyed without the momentum of reinforcing ‘authoritative’ hysteria.
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
I don’t see measured and sober caution as denial.
But as I write news of this just reached me:
https://www.aier.org/article/imperial-college-model-applied-to-sweden-yields-preposterous-results/
(I also note WHO praising Sweden’s response. But why would they want any of the responsibility for setting this going?)
Anyone reading even a bit into this affair sees that the basis for determining ‘covid-19’ as either cause of death or ‘infection’ is both scientifically AND politically questionable. And I don’t mean sideshow politics so much as Big System politics of a corporate sleight of social engineering.
So it needs careful study to get to details of unfolding what is really going on.
My sense is that colds ad flu have been weaponised under a panic agenda – because if no one HAD ‘discovered a virulent novel virus’ we would be responding as we generally have – with perhaps some cases seeming to represent a more extreme variant of the flu – but even they are strongly implicating impaired or overreactive immune response are they not?
Why must everything negative suddenly be assigned to SARS-COV-2?
is it because to NOT do so is to stick a head above the parapet and receive social vitriol, or penalty? Emotionally reactive identity can be extremely dangerous.
Of course I have my own background, education and sense of life and world and so I am not nearly so willing to buy into plague terror – especially taking account of WHO initiated it, their track record and background – and the lockstep media that question nothing while subjecting those who suckle the most extreme blitz of incitement to fear I have ever witnessed.
However the narrative interpretation to whatever is going on – perhaps because of our overreaction – is very real and has extraordinary consequences yet to reveal themselves.
We really cant go back to how it was – but not because life has become ‘contagion’.
Overall record of death by all causes is a solid baseline – allowing that sometimes figures are recorded and reported differently – hopefully not double counting. My sense is that ‘infection’ is simply PCR testing along with clinical or even non clinical assignment to self, others and the deceased. But If the test was for any other virus and found positive – would you consider yourself or others infected? There are many viruses that are normally present under different conditions in the population that are not ‘infection’ however the pathologists generate narrative for their non malign background presence. If viruses were THE CAUSE of disease we would all be dead.
I believe living science unfolds new perspectives that the old invested model not only ignores, suppresses or denies – but actively seeks to reboot its old model under a more dictatorial system to boost its immunity against loss of control.
Fear of change, becomes fear of life – (becomes a hatred of life as a sense of failure that seeks others to blame).
Didn’t one of the better epidemiologists say “Keep your masks for robbing banks”?
Tish: It may come to that, once the economy tanks. Alas, I don’t even own one!
Perhaps if you HAVE to put one on to enter a shop you could write that on it
New Zealand, population 5 million, Covid deaths 19
New Zealand is also just coming out of summer…face masks or none! Surely this is why South Africa and New Zealand are better off than us? Not because of masks!!
But there may be a lot more to it than just masks. Diet, air quality, general health, age, quarantining of foreign travellers early on and so on. What irritates me about masks is that even when I hold up a sign explaining that I can’t “hear” if I can’t see lips move, people STILL try to reply to me using voice – either that or they are ignoring me! Cashiers in Asda look like the riot police now
You might try Waitrose. They aren’t wearing masks or gloves, we’ve been going there for weeks and haven’t died yet (I think)
35 miles to Waitrose. Sainsburys isn’t too bad, nor is Lidl, but there are certain things that you can get in only one place, so I need to queue outside at least 3 supermarkets on every trip.
In my local Waitrose checkout people have gloves on, no masks, one lady also wears a shield/visor – this way she feels protected I guess, and the hard of hearing customers can at least lip read
Martin, the figures are questionable since in the UK, if someone dies suspected of having anything to do with the virus, then that’s what they died of.
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Is vitamin D , or lack of it , a factor in the seriousness of Covid-19.
Us Brits make little vitamin D
Yes
when the boss POTUS talked about hydroxychloquiine +( anti biotic)? trade name Planquenil as the remedy for CoV 19 and heard it was used for Malaria symptoms are clogged up lungs same as CoV19
I’ve been using MMS / Chlorine Dioxide for various ailments . the founder Jim Humble come across the combo Sod.Chlorite and activator of Citric acid / hydrochloric acid was used to fight malaria with recovery within days
During White house media session I picked up a question to the President was it true Afro/Carib Americans were more prone to COV19 automatically I wondered why. Straight away I connected there’s one disease that affects lots off my buddies black Brits who suffered from sickle cell.. one of the conditions of sickle cell which has similar symptoms lungs getting full of bacteria.
I checked Wikipedia high population prone to SC , was heritage from Caribbeans Asia South Europe is Italy. and Arab nations
2-weeks ago go in the White House President Trump brought together around the table black Americans (obviously distance apart from each other,) and five + black Ameiricans even one democrats councillor all sufferers of CoV 19 personally thanked President Donald Trump for telling them about the hydroxychloquine
Question is there any truth black Americans or those who may have a non active sickle cell in there bodies are affected. Though you suggest /recommend Vit D3 would be helpful .. whereas, DrBerg also includes Zinc would be beneficial. The evidence is proof in the pudding re the effects of MMS/Chlorine Dioxide can deal with lots of pathogens if followed The right protocols laid down by Humble Org
Unlike many people, I think President Trump has a good brain! Therefore, like perhaps you, I think it is worth considering why he was quoting reports of hydroxychloquine being useful. Supposedly it has been tested and failed to do anything useful, but crucially I wonder if those tests were done on non-white subjects.
As I understand it, hydroxychloquine is a useful treatment (ie, shortens the length of the illness) but ONLY if administered early in the infection’s ‘progress’ and given that in lots of people, in its early stages there are no symptoms, I’m not sure how useful this drug is, except of course, to Gilead’s SHAREHOLDERS (and what of the alleged insider trading scams in the USG over Gilead’s shares?).
Problem is, his reasons are rarely for the good of the people, nor based on solid science (and the long term side effects of the drugs he pushes) and are more about cronyism: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/whistleblower-complaint-rick-bright-blasts-team-trumps-pandemic-response?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=VF_CH_Exclusive_050520&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bea10e124c17c6adf1c3800&cndid=43746639&hasha=c69d9b4d413a56238ac27efde15a69a5&hashb=2aa82a0dbdcf409c840796f8b67548d45fed5031&hashc=448385f3d1c49e1c7fd44174aa76d91c9819338579e8fcbcb37624046f70d302&esrc=profile-page&utm_campaign=VF_CH_Exclusive_050520&utm_term=VYF_Cocktail_Hour
Trump is played as a wild card to shuffle the pack.
Is he his own man?
Not in my opinion.
But insofar as your criticism – surely it applies no less to most all the rest?
But the professional political class presented a kind of groupthink that Trump does not at least overtly support.
The news that Fauci went behind the White House re Wuhan viral research, may be part of why Trump and Fauci are not on the same team. Fauci is a Gates man.
Trump’s playbook is much closer to Netanhayu. Disregard agreements, refuse to play by the rules, push outrageous ideas as part of gaining better ‘deals’ and keeping everyone else on the back foot while maintaining or fomenting the conditions and signal that keep you electable – though without lockdown, Netanyahu’s criminal fraud charges would have come to court by now.
War against the virus can be seen as a symbolic reference to war against people or war against a rising tide of consciousness that does not support a top down control agenda.
The only ‘team’ Trump has ever been on is Team Trump, and I’m going to just leave my remarks there for now.
Before I could simply agree with you, I still have questions with regard to contextual factors – from social exclusion and masking, to treatment protocols.
Someone who abides as a source of love and gratitude in my life – Sue, about 70 – broke her leg, was taken to hospital, got a fever and was dead in 4 days – pronounced covid.. However, she had Parkinson’s, and has had bouts with cancer – (significant co morbidities). I have no access to any detailed information and if it was septicaemia (not uncommon in such cases if the bone ruptures tissues), it will be assigned to covid – either or association with fever or PCR test.
It doesn’t take much research to see that statistics are being abused or even fraudulently gathered with regard to a basis from which to base such far reaching social and economic controls.
For various reasons there is a force that WANTS covid19 to be a great evil.
I can look at these ‘reasons’ as taking different forms in different people, but they all share in fear as a distortion of reality – not least by attempt to evade or escape via a cover story.
When fear, pain, loss and death leave us powerlessness, we are in a sense ‘naked’ and seek to cover it with something – unless we are also open to the power of love as the release as well as the attachment of the beloved.
Science has to be willing to identify and address the distorting factors – not least in ourselves and our our social identities. However, I regard such self-honesty as a spiritual faculty – because the questioning of our presumptions is a matter of moral integrity or aligned and accepted purpose.
Any masking persona or agenda is inherently a selective or even inventive presentation for a purpose that runs counter to the truth. We cant live a human life without them, but they can be transparent or opaque to an underlying truth.
If we get out of step with the underlying reality – nothing can really work. No matter how intensely we may cling to or defend it. From this view I see the ‘global control agenda’ as refusal to change (in fear of pain of loss).
Thankyou for allowing me to comment here. I recently asked you if you were ‘moderating my posts’ – (I sent over 50 during the covid issues that did not get through). That the old twitter handle works (today) indicates that it was not you denying me a voice.
I have never denied anyone a voice. Other than people who have become personally insulting
You may appreciate that my experience of failing to be able to see any posts come through or receive answer from you left me in having to be open to the possibility of being unwelcome.
My WordPress ‘identity’ fails – and currently an old twitter log in works – but I have to log out and in again each time.
I will try an alternate browser next.
(As I have also lost the ability to comment on youtube since including five gee and CV in the same questioning sentence, I was wondering if I had been ‘muted’).
I am very pleased to find an ‘open channel’ – while it lasts!
Binra, I wholeheartedly agree!
I’m so sorry to hear about the loss of your friend so quickly, Binra.
Dear teedee126 – I sense you extend a touch and so I receive it as such – but the nature of the death of any one who is part of our life is also a profound touch – and of recognising the love in our living at the moment of release. If we will accept it.
I hold love to be real. Not dead.
We all live in each other in ways we are rarely aware of – until perhaps when our world fundamentally changes. For a time we cannot think. Then we resume or recycle a ‘new normal’ for sleepwalking through life …or live from who we now recognise ourself to be.
So I don’t relate to self-isolation, social exclusion, lockdown etc as fundamentally meaningful – though my way of life is outwardly little changed except for finally getting a growing garden started. Except now I am told to recluse!
I cant and don’t carry anyone else’s story for them.
Nor do I seek to become monopolised by my own.
However, we live experience that is intensely precious – even if we do not always recognise it so in its moment – and these qualities are both intimate and universal.
I invite you to love those you live with while you are alive by simply being the love that you are.
There isn’t really much anyone can say about death without saying far too much and nothing at all.
My witnessing her life and death here has in some way redeemed her from ‘covid’ statistics’, for me at least. Everyone else has their own story and the reward of it.
I don’t know if we are ‘allowed’ funerals yet – how sick is that!
I met a local practicing Christian recently who I was curious to sound out as to some sense of what its like to have her church shut down and such blind tyrannies given blank cheque to run ruin.
‘How has this affected your church?” I asked.
‘Well, we will have a huge backload of weddings and funerals to catch up with”, she replied.
My partner in love and life then said she was concerned about mandatory vaccinations coming as a result of it, and I said ‘where do they take their authority from to violate our bodies and our children’s bodies, against our will, to chemical and biological experiments?’
Perhaps she paused a moment to allow the seed of a recognition that authority has been given to where it does not belong. But we didn’t push it.
Binra, I was simply offering my condolences on the loss of your dear friend and I’m glad you sensed my intention and are very philosophical about it. Best wishes.
Thank you, Dr Kendrick! It is a fascinating article. I always like to walk or ride a bike outside if I can. The sunshine made me feel good, both physically and mentally. I took Vitamin D 1000 IU each day, but sometimes I forgot. Now I am going to increase the dosage and remind myself to take everyday.
Yolanda: Uplifting article about the Netherlands:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/09/holland-agriculture-sustainable-farming/
Superb article on the Netherlands – I shared it onwards. Just think how much good Gates could do, instead of pushing his dangerous vaccine programme, and selling himself out to the Big AG GMO boys, he could be involved in a major programme of true support, assistance and good throughout the world. He has a flagship – toss the dangerous vaccines programme, go do some real good.
BRAVO the Dutch. Amazing – less water, hardly any pesticides, huge yields – a powerhouse of solid achievement. So much good.
Well, yesterday we snuck into the national park and had a lovely hike of about 3 miles among the wildflowers. There are five entrances to this park, only two staffed by humans. The one we chose gets hardly any visitors. In four years of hiking there I haven’t seen another soul. Until yesterday. We met a family of four! Two families kicking the numbskull politicians in the teeth! There were two flimsy sawhorses with a sign saying the park was closed for public health reasons, but it was only about 100 yards from the trailhead, and there was ample parking. A fine day. The only good thing about this stupidity is that the traffic is light. And now our lamebrain governor is extending it another month, and I heard a rumor that stores will be requiring face masks. If so, we’ll simply do without. We’ll run out of eggs, but we’re in good shape with everything else. We’ve also had beautiful sunny warm days, and I’ve been getting 45-50 minutes each day of vitamin D, NO, and countless other goodies.
My only caveat to that, is that the media have to take a huge responsibility for what has happened. I mean, if they publish the COVID-19 death rate without any explanation that many of those who died were too ill to have survived anyway, they create panic and almost force the hands of politicians.
If the politicians were doing their job properly, for which they are well paid, then they should be pointing out the errors of the media, and not just using them as an indicator to show which is the move that may get them the most votes next time. The way they have behaved is very poorly, bordering on negligent. A lot of people will have no way of earning an income when this farce ends, many businesses will not be there.
the state/corporate media works in lockstep with government.
UK Column news of Fri May 1st reveals MSM are literally directly and openly paid by UK Gov for CVD front page ad-formation coverage. (I know some such as Guardian is already carrying corporately provided content.
As well as lots of stuff coming out about the value of a free and trusted press and educating your children only to go to trusted and reliable news sources.
Those who lockdown their eyes and ears and hear to fears will not be delivered to safety – regardless how normal their lot may become to them.
But that doesn’t mean anyone is bound to persist in a choice that no longer MEANS anything to them.
Among the living is the endeavour and willingness for sharing in the ways of life. I don’t see much fruit in seeking to wake those who are dead set on fear made into controls that are divisive, limiting and fear protecting as ‘control agenda’.
Being TOLD what to think (or to be relieved of thinking) is operating more and more overtly through the pretext of pandemic. And as someone just pointed out – is all part of an ongoing overall plan that hasn’t even been secret – but uses Orwellian language.
The belief that this is all incompetence is an understandable defence against unimaginable betrayal or un-beliveable capacity to carry it off.
However, I don’t invest in playing a supporting role to negative agenda – but that doesn’t mean I would survive a breakdown of food supply for long – or any of a number of potentials being generated by lockdown of life. Where is peace? Is it in knowing the future or how to meet it? Or is it in the heart of aligned decision.
Should this holding spell break, we will wake to know we need each other and not to signal virtue or push truthism onto others, Cells are symbiotic unless traumatised. We are of the same life.
Binra, I don’t think the government’s incompetence is the cause of its inability to ‘deal’ with the virus, rather it’s the effect of neoliberalism on the state’s inability to govern. I mean look who the govt looks to for ‘advice’; Neil Ferguson, Imperial College’s guru of statistics allegedly, who got it wrong not once, not twice, but three times! ‘Mad Cow’ disease; Foot and Mouth Disease and finally the coronavirus. In each case, he predicted vast numbers of deaths.
I think this quote sums it up:
In general of course – you write to the facts – but there were a number of points in that long quote – that are too many to go into here.
What is the private-public partnership idea but PR spin set over corporate governance?
Gates and UK Gov are actively and openly engaged in such – but ‘save our NHS’ is used to divert from any real scrutiny by means of sideshow politics run by crisis actors.
The Military Industrial Government post ww2 initiated Big Ag as on a par with energy control.
Energy control was already too big for government to hold in check or to account in the USA – with cartel power (Rockefeller et al) then expanding to capture and monopolise the medical system – and capture the regulators so as to protect its interests against the people.
The corruption of our thought is part of social engineering and mind control.
If the idea of mind control sounds to weird – call it narrative control. Call it deceit.
So I recognise the false deification of grievance, offence and proxy victims, as the leverage to assert righteous vengeance, under pretence of moral authority, and the sacrifice of the demonised individual to the manufactured collective – and etc – but am not at all inclined to assign a label such as neo-liberal, as an actual cause or agency and take identity in polarised reaction against it.
I look beneath that to the ‘mind’ that is targeted, manipulated and run by a loveless or hateful agenda for its own gratification. And to the predatory instinct of ‘winning’ by attacking first in some trojan ploy.
I read this text below today – and it speaks to our situation – does it not?
“The dissolving and reformation of new unity is quite different from destructive divisions, which are counter to the harmonies of life. Division is characterized by its resistance to growth and by its use of judgment and conflict to retard the power of unity. Perpetrators of division regard change as threatening, and therefore will infuse into the elements of change as much hostility or perversion as the situation will bear. Division is easily observed in war and in criminal aggressions. Although, most influences of division are more subtle than that. What you need to know about the world in which you live is that its stagnancy is not due to complexity or even chaos—those conditions can actually hold dynamic potential. Stagnation is actually due to many forces of division that are passively held in equilibrium. That is counterfeit unity. True unity comes from establishing correct priorities in life, and that begins with realizing there is but one God.”
I am not interested in polarised God/Science opinionating. But nor am I self-censoring sense just to fit in with ‘scientific correctness’.
One either recognises value in this quote or not – which I hold to be without any ‘appeal to authority’ or abuse of the idea of a true Cause as a patented or doctrinal straight jacket of lock-stepped mind-control.
AhN When the media, under direction of Murdoch or other press baron, gets instructed by its master, a politician can be torn to shreds. They live under the shadow of the menacing media magnates.
Along with low serum vitamin D, co-factors for Covid-19 for BAME people include over-representation in low paid front-line workers, higher co-morbidity and more crowded living conditions. Even given the political will, all these co-factors will take years and millions of pounds to change, but for next to nothing we could get serum D levels up next week! Why does’t the NHS offer all its BAME (and non-BAME) front-line staff 5000i.u. D3 tomorrow!!
That would indeed be the correct way forward. Plus to provide the PPEs. Also, to ensure that all persons in care homes are on correct supplements and strength of such supplements : individualised, treat to target. Far cheaper than the nonsense that is presently ongoing. One shakes one’s head at the all round appalling incompetence.
Hi mmec7: when we talk of care homes, we may all conjure up visions of happy and contented elderly folks, walking in the countryside, singing songs together and lustily enjoying life. I still feel it is worth posting this summary from 2004:
From here https://academic.oup.com/ageing/article/33/6/561/16174 they talk of a national UK census in 2004 for care home residents. Please supply a more updated version if you can.
Some things from the summary
“25% were ‘residential’ and 75% in ‘nursing’ care” .
” Medical morbidity and associated disability … had driven admission in over 90% of residents”
“More than 50% of residents had dementia, stroke or other neurodegenerative disease.”
“Overall, 76% of residents required assistance with their mobility or were immobile.”
“78% had at least one form of mental impairment and 71% were incontinent.”
“27% of the population were immobile, confused and incontinent”
So this can be a heavywork load population; and a frail population.
“Also, to ensure that all persons in care homes are on correct supplements and strength of such supplements :”
One option would be to sit in the sunshine of a summer; but that would require a lot of work by the staff. Folks like Prof Ioannidis and others suggest that those in care homes are near the end of their lives; they may not have long to go; we all seem to struggle to accept the reality of that, and the details of the above survey. All best wishes to all.
Terry – I have no rose tinted glasses where care homes are concerned ! Far from it. A wonderful older person I knew, tried one out, she was roundly trounced for having a sketch pad, and paints with her – “One may knit but not paint !!” Books ? “Only one book at a time” – She left. Then tried another, was totally disgusted – ‘A home for sheep’ was her disgusted remark. Then she found a terrific one, Greenwich, UK – think it was for ‘services’ or family of ? Made many friends, continued painting, exhibiting in the RA Summer Exhibitions. As for others…no thank you. Funny story : One, not far from where I live in France, and where we transfer our annual photo exhibitions to. I was on the taking down team. Arrived late, to find that all had been accomplished. Left to return home. As I was walking out of the building, two fellas stopped me to sarn about the strong wind, ‘not to get blown over’! Walked on, then was aware of someone running behind me, turned round to be confronted by a woman, who told me to return immediately too the home, how did I get out, I was not allowed out ! Silly conversation followed, as I eventually convinced her that I was not an ‘inmate’ of the home. Turned out that inmates were not permitted outside unless chaperoned…not even to sit in the gardens ! Inside the home : open, light, well furnished etc etc, but, serried rows of old people, sitting in heaps. The odd one or two reading a newspaper or book, but, hells teeth. Shudder. Feel so sorry for all those people. Waiting to be released from their own lockdown.
thanks for this mmec7;
there seem to be those of us who incline naturally to control others: so those folks dream up .. cholesterol as a bad thing, and spend their life trying to control;
others, particularly of the far left, may go into “public medicine” where they can look to control;
in all of these “control” areas, such as you point out in residential homes; facts, logic, common sense and kindness go out of the window: instead those with control tendencies become camp guards; folks in the various countries used to mock germans; but this tendency to morph into camp guards seems deep in many of us. Thanks for your observations on care homes. I am glad they didn’t arrest you!!
I had a barrage of questions : name, address, how long had I lived there, name of the mayor – which for the life of me I couldn’t remember, but knew of her husband as he a local veterinarian for horses and farm animals ! Annoyingly, I didn’t have ID with me…
My interlocutor spoke excellent English, so was my turn to question… Turned out her husband was English. With many apologies from her, and also with agreement that care homes were not an enviable accommodation, I was on my way, released !! I Still laugh, but still shudder.
To be fair to the care home and the nurse they probably have a lot of residents with dementia who need to be accompanied outside at all times to prevent them wandering away. Often that’s the very reason that their family has placed them in the care home in the first place.
One is aware of that Stuart – but nevertheless, ‘inmates’ are oftentimes ‘locked in’. All of them, no matter their levels of health. The homes I was aware of in the UK were not at that level of prison, but here in France, the ones I am aware of are prisons.
Having had a relative in a dementia care home, there aren’t enough staff to be with them all at a time and my relative used to wander around the place and go to sleep in another person’s bed during the day! But the gardens were in a courtyard so none of them could wander off and there were windows looking over the courtyard from all sides…sadly even then, they weren’t encouraged to go outside at all, which probably would’ve done them the power of good!
Synymy, because the NHS (following the US Institute of Medicine a decade ago) is busy insisting that there is “no evidence” for a vitamin D effect on covid, whilst recommending taking supplements at low dose because so many people are now locked up out of the sun. The only evidence it will acknowledge is that relating to bone health, where the benefits kick in at lower levels.
Hi synymyr: we are maybe still not sure if Vit D is a marker of various things that happen if we get sun on ourselves;
or if it is the sole thing: so yellow fingers can suggest lung disease, but fixing yellow fingers may not fix the lung disease; if we can nail Vit D as the sole thing, great;
On the activities of the Fergoid, I saw this article
“The possible roles of solar ultraviolet-B radiation and vitamin D in reducing case-fatality rates from the 1918–1919 influenza pandemic in the United States” by WB Grant et al.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.4161/derm.1.4.9063
and it linked to this
9. Ferguson NM, Cummings DA, Fraser C, Cajka JC, Cooley PC, Burke DS. Strategies for mitigating an influenza pandemic. Nature 2006; 442:448-52. https://www.nature.com/articles/nature04795.pdf
The comment by WB Grant on Ferguson’s proposals in 2006 were
“Other epidemiological approaches, such as limiting travel and case containment, could be part of an overall plan to limit the intensity of an influenza pandemic.9
However such concepts are rarely implemented successfully.
..
Such epidemiological measures would have serious economic impacts”
So I now see that 14yrs ago, what the Fergoid unleashed in March was swirling in his head then.
When we hear him talk recently of his current effort using “13yr old code”, I would suggest this was from this paper.
Some extracts from his article back then ….
“Development of strategies for mitigating the severity of a new influenza pandemic is now a top global public health priority” ….. top global priority … really … to whom?
“antiviral, vaccine and nonpharmaceutical (case isolation, household quarantine, school or workplace closure, restrictions on travel) measures1”
all this is from here https://www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/influenza/WHO_CDS_CSR_GIP_2005_5.pdf
In my naivete, it shocks me that 15yrs ago folks were scheming and dreaming as in the above; and citizens of democratic societies were not told what was being planned for them.
I need to get a timeline of all the earlier swine flu and all these other scare stories that evaporated back then. The above fits into this.
We have an incompetent ruling class and now an incompetent civil service to go with it since it’s all been outsourced to yet more incompetent private corporations. So it’s not that thet didn’t prepare for it, hence all the various papers on a future pandemic and what to do about it.
The problem of course is that at the same time they’ve either dismantled or outsourced the necessary infrastructure needed to deal with this new virus; instituted an ‘internal market’ that impedes coordinated responses to emergencies and generally fucked eveything up!
So bet that the various reports were probably outsourced as well. This is the end point of neoliberalism.
barovsky: By the way, I contacted my beef guy to get an idea of what is going on with concentrated vegetable processors, since there really are millions of chickens being “foamed” here in the U.S. Most chickens here are raised in vast, fetid, windowless barns. Minimum-wage employees come in to grab them by the legs when harvest-ready, and throw them into cages, which are stacked on trucks to be sent to the factories. How to kill them with little muss or fuss (since the processors are closed)? In a uniquely American way, they simply pump soap suds into the barns, which has the effect of suffocating them fairly rapidly. Thus, “foaming.” My beef guy said that pig production is greatly affected by this, because they only have a short window of time when harvest-ready, but cattle can be held (his are all on grass from birth to on-farm slaughter) much longer. The shut-down has affected him, as he hasn’t had any beef to sell for a while, but our little butcher shop is back in business, so he will be, too, in a couple of weeks. Good news. But my pork guy can’t get his pigs processed, and he’s really a good guy, with lots of customers.
Excellent – but scary.
Yes I entirely believe the shutdown is the end and covid just the excuse. Society has now been permanently changed, and not to our benefit.
Graph on attached shows a clear spike in fatalities in recent weeks compared with previous years. CV19 issue of course but how many “because of” ?
Graph based on following;
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales
Hi all.
Sorry I am off topic.
Can anyone comment on the advice I am receiving re my husbands health (71yrs).
He is a type 1 diabetic with very unstable diabetes with a specialist who resists my move to reduce my husbands intake of carbohydrates. I am working toward (failing)a low carb diet.
He had a serious stroke a year ago and was found to have narrowing arteries to the head and heart with one blockage. He did not take statins before stroke-he had low total, HDL and LDL. His Cardiac Sp, Endocrine Sp and Neurologist push statins. I failed to tell them that he did not take them. His total Cholesterol is now 6.8 LDL 5.1 and HDL 1.3. I have had to admit to his cardiac specialist that he does not take statins and I am under great pressure for him to start.
My husband takes Concentrated K would that be significant. His Hba1c is over 9.
I am 70 yr old woman and find it difficult to discuss the above with younger men doctors with out comments recorded on my husbands records re wife being stressed etc, etc, etc………..
Iris, medical advice? No. Strategically I suggest you watch this by a little known (not even listed on Wikipedia) sceptic. https://youtu.be/T3ldcRYadR4 Then perhaps something by Assim Malhotra, Tim Noakes, GaryFettke, Zoe Harcombe. There are others, they will give you a source of information which will hopefully make you more confident in dealing with the “experts”.
Hi Iris; if I firstly express my sorrow at the bullying you are receiving at the hands of these determined younger doctors. Those of us on the low-carb side know that what you are doing is entirely sensible and logical; Dr K has talked of how in Japan as the LDL has risen, the incidence of strokes has fallen markedly; I now feel the whole low-carb thing is almost impossible to discuss with the brain-washed doctors of orthodox medicine; so I don’t try to remember too many facts to point out to them: facts just don’t seem to matter.
It will surely be a matter of your inner strength; if you know very low-carb is the way to go, quietly keep to that; and that statins are pointless and harmful; you can either continue to say no; or accept the pills and flush them down the toilet, and tell the neurologist they have been religiously consumed.
I am sorry to hear you are placed in such an awful situation; we can only offer what we think of as common-sense advice and support to you; it must be very hard for you to try to stand firm against what must be very strongly self-opinionated young men, with zealous belief in their own self righteousness. all best wishes to you and your husband. NB this is not medical advice; this is a comment, in case anyone is confused; perhaps only the mischievous would be.
PLEASE don’t flush pills down the toilet. There is already too many pharma toxic chemicals going into the water courses, and adding to. It is not the best plan.
I asked my local pharmacy what they did with returned, unused prescriptions; they throw them away, I assume with the garbage.
barovsky: Heartwarming to know that! Now we have to avoid landfills, too. Rats.
Absolutely right, AhNotepad.
Here in my tiny New England town, I used to have to go thirty miles out of my way once a year and pay bigly to get rid of “hazardous materials”. Then the local pharmacy offered a med return program costing me $5 per.
Then, a coupla years ago the town police offered, for free, a bin you could put any unused med into. No bottles or baggies, no ID of the med, just the pills or caps. They then incinerate. (Smoke??)
It’s the most reasonable so far. I’m pretty sure there’s a reduced incidence of dumping directly into the many local streams.
Maybe people might try burying their statins in the garden. Who knows – they might turn out to be effective weedkillers.
“PLEASE don’t flush pills down the toilet. ”
It’s a euphemism, my dear chap;
Obviously I’m not a doctor, but am reading about Patrick Holford’s Low Glycaemic-load (“Low GL”) diet that has been advocated by many doctors for diabetes of both types and other chronic conditions and which still allows some forms of carbs that a low-carb diet might not. (It isn’t to be confused with a low glycaemic-index (“Low GI”) diet though.) So maybe your husband’s consultant would be more willing to ‘agree’ to this? You can find a lot of info on Patrick Holford’s website:
https://www.patrickholford.com/topic/low-gl
Iris: Sorry to hear of your husband’s problems. I’m also T1D and have been following a low insulin regime for 12 years now. This description is better received within the care fraternity that I must see in order to maintain my NHS prescriptions. I used to say that I was following a low carb strategy but I was told this was “a very bad idea” for type 1 diabetics and was referred to Diabetes UK and DAFNE for so called “training”. Truly useless but so called expert advice.
You will already know that you have a fight on your hands but you are on the right path. I have refused statins for 11 years (thanks to Dr. K.) and you need to try and get your husband’s HbA1c down from where it is and low carb is the way to do it.
It will help if he is willing and can also see the benefits from this and he agrees to change his eating habits; difficult if not impossible, if he is resistant. Good luck.
Iris,
I greatly sympathise with your position. Going against medical advice doesn’t come easy, particularly when it is on behalf of someone else.
If the two of you decide to consume less carbohydrates and maybe more saturated fat, how is your specialist going to know? I am not a medical doctor, but from everything I have read here and in Dr Kendrick’s books, that would be a good idea – because all carbohydrates get digested into simple sugars (mainly glucose, except in the case of sugar itself, which digests into 50% fructose, and 50% glucose). Maybe the change should not be made abruptly because you don’t want to run into low blood sugar problems.
I took statins for 3 years, and I discovered this blog after a battle with the side effects of statins which were somewhat confused by the fact that they took 3 years to emerge. I refuse to take them any more, and I think you should have the courage of your convictions in this matter.
It might help to get a copy of Dr Kendrick’s “Doctoring Data” book and highlight the most relevant passages to show your specialists. His books are all well referenced, so it is possible to see exactly which studies he is referring to. That might rattle their complacency a little!
They can tell because he would be using far less insulin.
Richard Bernstein is the guru
http://www.diabetes-book.com
over the years I’ve known many very well controlled Type 1s, they mostly don’t go to his very ascetic levels of carbs but the important thing is a LOT of testing, and making sure glucose is within easy reach in case you overdo it.
There’s also a Facebook group Type 1 Grit principally for children
https://en-gb.facebook.com/Type1Grit/
and especially
with much information – one of the owners is a doctor with a Type 1 diabetic son and the course was written on a now defunct site by another Type 1
So from the very good Hector Drummond site is this fascinating small piece about the very distinguished RM Anderson (Sir Roy, to you).
https://hectordrummond.com/2020/05/02/quote-of-the-day-27/
He moved from IC to Oxford around 1992 and the above discusses his impact.
He was forced to resign his post in Oxford in 1999; it was said he had made false allegations against a lady who was the best candidate for a post; it is unclear why he seemed to have such antipathy towards her.
RM moved back to IC, and took under his vapid wing an NM Ferguson, soon to be famous for producing crazy models that bore no relation to reality. The papers published on the FMD epidemic, where millions of animals were needlessly slaughtered it is widely believed; both bore the authorship of RM and NM.
When asked about Anderson, Ferguson recently said he didn’t see his previous overlord at all now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_M._Anderson
However it was reassuring to see that the 73yr old Anderson is gainfuly employed in his retirement; not as a volunteer in a care home, but
“is a member of the Bill and Melinda Gates Grand Challenges In Global Health advisory board,”
and “chairs the Schistosomiasis Control Initiative (SCI) advisory board funded by the Gates Foundation”
“He is a non-executive director of GlaxoSmithKline”, who I think quite by chance make vaccines.
It is curious how the swirling tides of gates and vaccines and pharma waft in and out of the doors of IC.
Is there no limits to the arrogance of these unelected beings? Perhaps at 73 he should test a few vaccines, and let us know how it affected him.
indeed AhNotepad; I look forward with relish to seeing the Fergoid roll up his sleeves on UK TV to receive experimental vaccines; in fact, we could comment that volunteers have already been jabbed; Sir Roy and the Fergoid have been noticeably absent from the front of this queue.
I heard a rumour that the Fergoid… is no longer munificently employed in his previous / infamous capacity…
Has he departed for the greener grass of …. perhaps a wealthy Vaccinator ?
indeed Janet;
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/05/exclusive-government-scientist-neil-ferguson-resigns-breaking/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/28/neil-ferguson-scientist-convinced-boris-johnson-uk-coronavirus-lockdown-criticised/
he could tell others what to do; and trash the economies of so many countries; but he could make exceptions for himself; his friend is seemingly a “senior climate change activist”;
Iris:
With reference to your ‘stressed‘ wife comment, I point out to my husband’s glaucoma specialists that since his eyesight does now, and will probably even more in the future, affect me and the quality of my life, I have every right to hold and give an opinion. And I make them all listen. I can see that you might be in a similar position. Best wishes.
Talking glaucoma my wife had this diagnosis and was prescribed “appropriate” medication.
Well, ten years ago we realized that she was severely type T2D with a most disturbing peripheral neuropathy. Then we decided to at once switch to a very strict LCHF living (no carbs!) and with dramatic and instant improvements of her health status. Within one or a couple of years all her eye problems had then resolved. (Return of her night vision was one obvious effect.) Photographs of her eye bottoms then revealed that they were just “perfect”. Also her peripheral neuropathy had “disappeared”.
BTW She does not take any medications whatever.
Göran Sjöberg: Good for her! I don’t take any drugs either, and the last time I saw my eye doctor he said the backs of my eyeballs (whatever you call them) looked very good, too.
Far from uncommon. Not that I am calling you or your wife common, you understand (G)
Many doctors still believe it cannot happen but ophthalmologists see it regularly.
Calling all brain cells!
We have a local shop-cum-post office. The shop tried to refuse taking my used egg boxes because they could be infected – so we are not saving the planet anymore.
My husband took in a parcel which he had put together with unsanitised hands. They wanted to be sure he had used the shop’s provided sanitiser before handing it over to them.
Just saying…🤔
I took a parcel to the post office and to a drop-off place for Hermes – the staff were wearing gloves, so weren’t worried about any potential for infection. How come your post-office staff don’t do the same? Do they expect you to sanitise your bank notes and coins before handing them over?
I’ve just been to the post office to hand in some cheques in an envelope. The nice young lady was not wearing gloves, nor was I, No conversation about sanitiser or bleach, I got my receipt, and still feel ok. If I don’t post anything next week, I probably died from the virus, but somehow I think that’s not going to happen.
Tish, Think about it from the receiving end – your own mailbox.
The circulatory system of mail delivery is nation wide. World-wide in many instances. Think of the number of hands your mail passes through on its way to you. Imagine that one set of hands belonging to that innocent individual anywhere along the way who has no idea he/she is shedding virus but not symptomatic. The RFD guy might even just have picked it up from your neighbor and is passing it along unaware. It’s the ideal system for spread.
I, myself, being elderly (How strange to own up to that!) and a tiny bit more frail daily, but who loves Life, quarantine my mail a few days before opening.
“Murphy was an optimist.”
Careful what you admit to, JD, it may earn you a lecture on the folly of preventing contact with viruses via handwashing on occasion (I got in the habit of a quick hand wash after grocery shopping, not because of ‘germs’ but because of contact with the chemicals on a receipt and just kept it up after this virus cropped up since I would have been doing it anyway), or quarantining your mail before opening. All joking aside, I think you should just do what your gut instincts and common sense tell you. I hug my family, I go out in public and touch things and usually forget to wash up before I eat, and never use hand sanitizers, etc. I also take good care of myself, so I’m hoping for the best and I’m sure you know what you’re doing at this point in your life, too. Keep calm and carry on..
JDPatten: Do you wear gloves while taking it out of the mailbox? Where do you quarantine it, and how many days? Does this ensure viral degradation? Sensible of you to be cautious. We want you around a lot longer, as you always have something to contribute to the discussion. I’m taking few extra precautions, mainly washing my hands after putting on or taking off my shoes; surely I’ve unknowingly stepped on turds or God knows what else.
Gary,
Sometimes I feel a bit silly with the precautions I take, but I remind myself that I’m not alone.
my wife is with me in this. My children are risking themselves (To what degree???) by shopping for us. So I live up to that responsibility against an absolutely invisible enemy with what little clues I (we all!) have as to an arsenal that works or doesn’t.
Left hand for the mailbox and mail, the right being reserved for doorknobs. Grab the mail, sit it on the small table in the back porch where it will “rest” for three days, then go straight to wash hands thoroughly. I had started using a plastic bag on my left, but that proved too awkward.
All this might well be for naught. We might never know. Better to look silly than to fail my family and myself.
This virus operates silently and invisibly according to Murphy’s Law. We shall see.
JDPatten: Thanks. You’re totally cool. Keep it up. Being silly doesn’t bother me one bit, either, and I don’t care if anyone sees me being silly and laughs. I laugh along!
Someone shedding the virus with no symptoms is called an asymtomatic carrier, otherwise known as a healthy person.
Or someone who has just been vaccinated.
They might well have at least one symptom, a sore arm.
AhNotepad: And a mistrust of doctors forever more. Is that a symptom? I think it is. Of the realization that life is not all peaches and cream.
Trust is both the basis for and the fruit of a real relationship.
Your use of the term ‘trust’ is a counterfeit or corrupted derivative.
Doctors need to actively refuse to operate outside of a real relationship. Does the current structure allow that?
A state or effectively corporate employee under regulatory lockdown cannot grow a true clinical practice – and relationship with his or her community.
I used the term lockdown, because there is of course a place for standard and regulations and protocols – but without a fundamental trust – the whole thing is a heartless machine whose safety is its paramount concern.
If you take advice from anyone anywhere and any-when, weigh it in your own heart and take responsibility for YOUR decision. Relationship is not there for us to simply use when its suits us. BUT acting that way sets up the law of returns.
Thanks JD but from day one my husband and I truly haven’t had a moment’s anxiety about the virus. We only have anxiety about losing our freedom and trust in and respect for our fellow man. Perhaps the worry about the foolishness of it all gives me no room to care about the virus. I can’t see myself relating in the same way as before to the world. That worries me.
Further, I really can’t believe that I am helping people by distancing myself from them. It doesn’t make sense. I think it is injurious to others to take such action. As has been said, we are only delaying immunity. Do we want to get this virus in the winter when there is little vitamin D to be got from the sun? (We will all be a bit older, too!). The idea of a vaccine for it worries me too, for many, many reasons. The suggestion by Gates that all newborns could be vaccinated against something that doesn’t even affect children is appalling.
Besides, I still think there is a chance that a lot of us in the UK got immunity around December. I know we are told the virus arrived later in the UK but how can I be sure of that when we are being told silly things every day?
Yes, living in a senseless and irresponsible world is what concerns me. I am hopeful about traffic diminishing if more people continue working from home though – a possible consolation. Our roads had been bearing such troubles for our very large population. Perhaps schooling could be altered for the better too. Let us hope that new opportunities arise and are taken from all this.
Many people I know, including my husband and myself, thought we may have had some kind of mild version of this virus earlier in the year, or even before Christmas (we very rarely get any colds in any case) but then a friend sent me this:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-05/mutant-coronavirus-has-emerged-more-contagious-than-original?fbclid=IwAR0F-10wFdUCvIgxkeqTC6T4ErgDEl55fYBwSVDlwxHr_JwFLImCru6sUNo
On what grounds would you propagate this as news?
Just look at the way PR is crafted – along with all the appropriate caveats for legal defence.
Until people are willing to release a blanket and blind trust in media articles and ‘scientists say’ they are active sucklings to a hog roast – if I may mutate my metaphors mid-stream.
A Gated Boris has already told us this is the first phase of many – and that reconditioning us for a new normal is going to mean repeated succession of treatments over a year or more.
Every release will be partial and every retightening will be tighter. I don’t WANT to be right – I wold much rather become a laughing stock when Gates and co all confess it was a live drill – and that the real threat is our lack of resilience to ancient fears that recycle with tragic effect down the generations. And that they can not and will not run the ruse of protecting us from our fear by all kinds of complex narrative devices – but if you really want to stay in lock-town you can move to a smart City mega care home.
Likewise. From my journal for 16th November 2019:
“I have begun sneezing and coughing again, with a hint of a sore throat for the first time in years… [A friend] has a nasty cough, and says she has had a bad cold since a few days after flying from the States, so perhaps we are all suffering from an airline cold virus”.
so well said Tish; marvellous
If it looks like a bill you could quarantine it for longer
Group Hug!
I accidentally saw a headline about protesters taking part in a group hug in London.
The picture showed two banners with the following slogans:
(1) “No lockdown!” and
(2) “My body. My choice. We do not consent”
Possibly good news depending on your point of view.
It’s their choice of course. But if they get sick will they ‘consent’ to receive hospital treatment if they need it. Or will they selflessly decline, sort of ‘take one for the team?’
Very dicey going to hospital for treatment – might get killed by inappropriate ventilator use. If all the group huggers were well (and not working with sick people) and didn’t come into contact with anyone who wasn’t willing, I don’t see that they have put themselves at more risk than they would be of getting colds, flu etc by going about their “normal” daily lives. Anyway, their choice. They deserve treatment if they want it because they’ll have paid tax etc to fund NHS. Might as well say that those who are overweight or eat junk food or drink alcohol or smoke shouldn’t get treatment as their dieases are self inflicted.
Kathleen, there is little chance they will get sick. If they did, the chances of being taken into hospital is also very small. The severity of symptoms are likely to be low. If I felt unwell as a result of some virus, (that would be a great surprise as I look after myself) the last place I would want to be is in hospital, where I could pick any amount of other diseases which are able to survive attempts to destroy them by SANITISING everything.
Oh Kathleen, come on! Folks talk this rubbish and nonsense: this trite drivel. folks getting sick from mixing with each other; a group hug! ……. come on; we are drowning in this sanctimonious rubbish: corona is a winter respiratory virus; it goes away in summer; salvation is coming to you; we cough, we breathe, we live, we mix; come on Kathleen; recognise reality.
http://inproportion2.talkigy.com learn to recognise the past
Quite so. We are being taught to hate and blame one another instead of sticking together. Of course a driver who is involved in an accident should be denied treatment as they were obviously reckless and invited the risk by getting into a car. Only the good little sheep who parrot the words and views of their lords and masters, and bow down to the ruling elite should be cared as all those who think for themselves are an anti-social threat to others. Welcome to the reversal of thousands of years of civilisation
And it seems that lockdowns may actually make things worse. Stats suggest that Sweden and esp Taiwan are doing much better than UK and will come out with an largely intact domestic economy – which we won’t. Of course, Taiwan sensibly quarantined foreign travellers and sick people – why didn’t we do that? We just seem to do everything arse backwards – quarantine the healthy, but keep everyone hanging around outside shops near other people for much longer than they otherwise would, Have shopping times for the most likely people to be infected just before shopping times for the most vulnerable, send sick elderly people back to care homes full of vulnerable people where there are few if any trained nurses. And so on.
Lunch time article on UK radio said there are excess deaths that are not covid related, so they posed the question, could this be deaths caused by the lockdown and people not getting timely treatment. It wouldn’t be nice to say we told you so.
I’m not sure that what is on offer is the ‘state of the art’ treatment I would want – it seems to kill a lot of people compared to these http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n27.shtml
“It’s state of the art.” “But it doesn’t work.” “That is the state of the art!”
– Conor O’Neill’s sig file, 12/99.
Excellent news. Here’s a link https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8280451/Police-arrest-anti-lockdown-protesters-taking-group-hug-outside-Mets-headquarters.html
AhNotepad: Six flatties, no less, it took to carry that harmless old guy in the fluorescent vest to the paddy wagon! But they were politically correct, with the proper ratio of male to female.
And, you notice, the officers did not appear to be wearing masks or gloves. So not scard of catching anything from group huggers
Surely the police in the incident broke the law and are thus criminals? They were within 2m of each other, and did they sanitise their hands before and after?
AhNotepad: And where are the masks and gloves! Bad boys and girls!
The patient’s still alive!
As usual, Randall Munro nails it with xkcd.
https://xkcd.com/2287/
“Who wants a huuuuuug?”
Dear Jason,
I was pleased to hear Mr. Gove’s response last night to a Muslim’s question that seemed to be yet another example of victimhood by Muslims.Objecting to Trevor Phillips role is typical ,gosh he pointed to the fact that the child abusers in Rotherham were mainly men of Pakistani origin so that makes him anti Muslim. Even Baroness Warsi seems to be working the victimhood angle.
There are various possible reasons for the BAME being especially affected that have been suggested but one that seems not to have been is addressed is mentioned in Dr. Kendrick’s latest blog.Get past the first part of the blog to the important thoughts.
Keep Safe
Stephen
Sent from my iPad
SARS-COV-2 should be renamed EDS-COV where ED = Epithelial Dysfunction Syndrome
The virus is not so much of a respiratory virus but is better described as causing a disease of the vascular endothelium.
The vascular system maintains balance by the action of two enzymes ACE and ACE2.
The action ACE is to produce Angiotenisin II , whereas ACE2 converts Angiotenisin II to Angiotensin 1-7
High levels of Angiotenisin II cause :
1. Vasoconstriction
2. Increased endothelial permeability
3. Increased production of reactive oxygen species (ROS) , thereby promoting thrombosis
4. Pulmonary edema/fibrosis
5. Acute Respiratory Distress
( 1, 2, 3)
Whereas Angiotensin 1-7 is a vasodilator mediating that effect via increased production of nitric oxide(NO)(4,5)
To summarize, ACE promotes vasoconstriction whereas ACE2 does the opposite.
Proper activity of ACE and ACE2 is required to maintain blood pressure within normal levels.
By binding to ACE2, the virus inhibits the conversion of Angiotenisin II to Angiotensin 1-7.
This disrupts the balance between ACE/ACE2, thereby causing vasoconstriction, increased thrombosis etc. which can lead to ARDS and other lung abnormalities.
It should come as no surprise to readers of this this blog that
metabolic syndrome ( obesity /diabetes) and smoking damage the vascular endothelium
via high blood pressure as well as by promoting inflammation thus leading to cardio vascular disease (CVD).
And that individuals the same risk factor for CVD also have poor outcomes for COVID-19 (6)
Thank you Dr. Kendrick for your work in researching and disseminating information on the causes of CVD and how this relates to the current situation with COVID-19.
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Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 in lung diseases.
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Where does this leave us with supplements and medication that can increase expression of ACE2?
There are influential people out there who advocated withholding vitamin d supplementation on the basis that it increases expression of ACE2. My opinion is that it modulates or regulates the system rather than “boosts” it markedly.
So called anti ageing compound NAD has also been implicated in increasing levels of ACE2. Obviously, ACE inhibitors do increase ACE2 and we’ve had them implicated in high mortality rates, though of course many people taking them have comorbidities.
Is increasing levels of ACE2 desirable or not I wonder?
Maybe ACE inhibitors are good (see analysis at end of article):
Simon,
As you noted there are concerns that medications such as ace inhibitors(ACEI)/Angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARBs)
can increase the expression of ACE2, potentially increasing the infectivity/virulence of SARS-CoV2 and resulting in poorer outcomes in COVID-19 cases (1)
To date there has been no evidence suggesting that the use of ACEI/ARBS increases the rates of infection or has any detrimental effects in COVID-19 cases (2)
With respect to vitamin D the research to date suggests that vitamin D has a protective role in COVID-19 infections,
and that vitamin D deficiency correlates with poorer outcomes (3).
Vitamin D is a pro-hormone and that has beneficial immunomodulatory, anti-inflammatory, anti-fibrotic, and antioxidant effects by acting on a number a pathways, such as:
a) Upregulating the production of anti-viral proteins i.e. cathelicidins and defensins that (4,5)
b) Attenuating the severity of “cytokine storms” by downregulation production of inflammatory cytokines and upregulating the production of anti-inflammatory cytokines (4,6)
c) Inhibition of fibrosis and thrombosis by inhibiting renin production thus lowering angiotensin2 and upregulating ACE2 (7, 8, See prior post)
In “my opinion” based on the research to date any concerns suggesting increased ACE2 levels may lead to increased risk of COVID-19 infection
or severity are unsubstantiated.
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SARS-CoV2: should inhibitors of the renin–angiotensin system be withdrawn in patients with COVID-19?,
European Heart Journal, ehaa235,
https://doi.org/10.1093/eurheartj/ehaa235
2. Risk of Covid-19 with renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system medications.
Reactions Weekly 1804, 11 (2020).
https://doi.org/10.1007/s40278-020-78440-2
3. Vitamin D Insufficiency is Prevalent in Severe COVID-19
Frank H. Lau, Rinku Majumder, Radbeh Torabi, Fouad Saeg, Ryan Hoffman, Jeffrey D. Cirillo, Patrick Greiffenstein
medRxiv 2020.04.24.20075838;
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.04.24.20075838
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Evidence that Vitamin D Supplementation Could Reduce Risk of Influenza and COVID-19 Infections and Deaths.
Nutrients 2020, 12, 988.
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Review: Defensins and cathelicidins in lung immunity.
Innate Immun. 2010;16(3):151-159.
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Perspective: improving vitamin D status in the management of COVID-19.
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Not vit D related, but essential viewing. Robert Kennedy Jr interview. 2h 19m, so put your feet up.
I remain startled to read of the work that Fauci and others were actively promoting in the US:
I sense something of Bernie Madoff in him; his “charming adaptable and persuasive” exterior, his gift of effortlessly dissembling…..
Here https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/ is more on this “gain of function” research where they deliberately wanted to tinker with existing viruses; eg taking viruses from animals; that clearly did not affect humans; and then alter them, to create pathogenic viruses: new viruses, that would infect some humans.
As I understand the story; other researchers were concerned;
(where, oh where was here the glorious and much celebrated “scientific consensus” that is usually used as a weapon against us? … normally all scientists agree … cholesterol …… climate .. vaccines …… whatever …. )
So enough concern was raised that the US govt stopped this research; October 17, 2014 http://www.phe.gov/s3/dualuse/Documents/gain-of-function.pdf
on 2 grounds seemingly: mishaps (potential calamities) that had already happened; and the issue of future potential releases; and the calamities that could ensue from them.
It would seem that when Fauci was thwarted by the above decision, he went against this by covertly funding the Wuhan research lab to continue doing this type of work; in the way that gates and vaccines and IC seem to swirl around, this issue of Wuhan and what they were researching, appears also to swirl around.
The Vitamin D message has finally got out into the Daily Telegraph:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/03/time-take-seriously-link-vitamin-d-deficiency-serious-covid/
“A suggestive set of numbers was published online in April by a medical scientist in the Philippines, Dr Mark Alipio. Of 49 patients with mild symptoms of Covid-19 in three hospitals in southern Asian countries, only two had low levels of vitamin D; of 104 patients with critical or severe symptoms, only four did not have low levels of vitamin D. The more severe the symptoms, the more likely a patient was to be not just low but deficient in the vitamin. Could vitamin D deficiency make the difference between getting very ill or not?
………..
It has long been suspected that most people’s low vitamin D levels in late winter partly explain the seasonal peaking of flu epidemics, and rising vitamin D levels in spring partly explain their sudden ending. Vitamin D is made by ultraviolet light falling on the skin, so many people in northern climates have a deficiency by the end of winter.”
Although the article doesn’t make much of the issue, isn’t it a scandal that the power of Vitamin D to prevent respiratory diseases has long been suspected – with better advice we might have mostly been resistant to COVID-19 and the flu, and in that situation, I guess the virus would have found it impossible to spread!
I thought it was a poignant comment from a Peter Thompson on the Hector Drummond site
https://hectordrummond.com/2020/05/04/euromomo-graphs-show-that-covid-is-finished-in-europe-and-that-the-lockdown-didnt-help-the-uk/
“As someone on the ground maybe I can help explain the excess UK non covid deaths.
Many elderly frail patients living in residential homes have a revolving door existence with the local DGH .
If they have a significant water infection or minor stroke in they go to the local hospital for immediate treatment often because the residential home has not got the staff to nurse them.
This has not happened during covid time. I suspect they have just quietly passed away in the residential home .”
I commend the book “The Way we die now” by Dr Seamus O’Mahony; he would say the same thing; that many of these unfortunate souls are very frail, with as Dr K would say, multiple morbidities, and are repeatedly in and out of their local hospital; and where possible, they are moved into the hospital to die, as for various reasons this eases the burden of nursing/care homes. This has not now happened. Perhaps in the future they might be allowed to die peacefully amongst those they knew and were with; a faint hope?
PS I commend the fascinating graphs here
https://hectordrummond.com/2020/05/04/saturdays-nhs-covid-19-graphs/#c
to readers.
Vit D levels in elderly residents; from the Ivor Cummins blog, I saw this article looking at two groups of elderly in Greece, near Kalamata; of the olives fame. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18997490/
CDE: community-dwelling elderly and
IE: institutionalised elderly (called carehome residents in the UK)
mean Vit D levels in SI units:
CDE: 67.6 nmol/l = 27.04 ng/ml
IE: 19.0 nmol/l = 7.6 ng/ml
So it can be a lot of hard work to get disabled care home residents out of doors into the sunshine; and if anyone did, they would likely slather them in thick sunblocker, so they didn’t get melanoma in the next 10 minutes; even though those that work in the fresh air have a lower incidence of melanoma than those working indoors; thus do we endlessly strive to do good, and “protect the elderly”, a homogenous group if ever I saw one; they can be effortlessly stereotyped.
Terry, you are ‘wright’! I have witnessed this very thing with care home ‘residents’ when my husband’s mother was in one. She had dementia and we suspected that vitamin D deficiency was one contributory factor so had been giving her supplements and taking her outside in the sun before she went there. But when we went to see her, about this time of year on a lovely sunny day, we asked if we could take her into their lovely garden – but saw the staff slapping sun block on the few other residents that were also outside. I spoke to one about the fact that this would prevent any vitamin D production but she knew nothing of it and just said that that’s what they were trained to do! She was the sort of person that you knew wouldn’t even think about what I’d said…so many of them around, just ‘doing what they’re told’ 😦
“…but she knew nothing of it and just said that that’s what they were trained to do!”
In other words, “Befehl ist Befehl!”
For which Germans were hanged at Nuremberg.
Although it is the owners and managers of those “care” homes who deserve to be tried and severely punished for their inhumanity.
Perhaps this has something to do with the global disaster?
barovsky: And Smithfield is a horror show owned by Chinese investors.
http://joannenova.com.au/2020/05/the-stroke-virus-covid-causes-hundreds-of-microclots-throughout-the-lungs-and-everywhere-else/
Is there a possibility of an association with vit C deficiency?
How popular would my protest be! Let me see…
I do appreciate that conditions such as obsession and compulsion can lead to fatness – is it taboo now to use the word ‘fat’? – but let me for once be very politically incorrect and say it as it generally is:
1. Fat people follow government dietary guidelines. That is why they are fat.
2. Fat people are in the majority. The majority of people are acquiescent in following Covid19 government guidelines. Fat people in particular, including some younger ones, have been and will be victims of the virus.
3. Most people are fat and most people appear to fear the virus, understandably if they are fat.
4. Ergo, fat people are the cause of the lockdown. If people were all slim, no one would know that the virus was ‘deadly’, except to the very old who are vulnerable to a lot of things and expected to die from them.
5. Fat people are causing a change in the lives of thin people.
Shouldn’t thin people be protesting? Too much political correctness? Shouldn’t we be locking up all the fat people until they are thin and safer – maybe allowed 30 minutes outside for sunshine and exercise? Only thin people allowed out properly (because they are already safer)? Measurements taken of waistlines and BMIs instead of antibodies?
There, now I’ve said it! If I ruled the world…. 😂
Tish, thyroid problems can also lead to weight gain. Strangely, the medical establishment’s cack-handed approach to hypothyroidism leaves an awful lot of people undertreated.
Very true Aileen. I was just meaning to have a go at the dietary fat.
Indeed yes, Aileen. I have five friends who are hypothyroid and two who have had their thyroids removed. Three are enormous. Dr Ray Peat is the big thyroid person in the UK. Has his own private practice, believe three clinics in various areas in the UK. He had a bust up with the NHS over the non-use of T3. And, his approach through diet and alternative methods. One friend was delighted to consult with him. Saved her thyroid – which, here in France, they were all for removing. Some years ago now, and she still has her thyroid intact.
Dr Perlmutter’s latest podcast (5 May) discusses hypothroid and the problems surrounding T3 / T4. He suggests taking Selenium as a supplement, as selenium will help the body to take up the T3 from the T4, which in many patients it fails to so do. So the replacement drugs continually spiral, titrate upwards to try and address the situation. Hmmmm. Take a supplement, or, IF can be sure that ones nutrition derives from selenium rich soil, use diet to regulate the imbalance.
In a nutshell – hypo : Fatigue; exhaustion; feeling under the weather; mental fog; poor immunity – colds, flu, pneumonia, as for COVID-2-19…Ho-Hum. Selenium helps block the buggles, an if you’re low in thyroid then you will be low in T3 and in selenium.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=168552767817106¬if_id=1588613970622980¬if_t=live_video_explicit
Am I reading this https://jvi.asm.org/content/78/19/10628 wrong or were experiment taking place in the USA in 2004 to put together a chimera containing parts of SIV, the S protein-spike of SARS-CoV, bits of the HIV envelope protein, and MRV, to investigate the possibility of blocking the ACE2 receptor?
What could possible have gone wrong?
SteveR: Thanks for posting that. Way too technical for me to grasp in any detail without many, many hours of learning virology. It is Dr. Mikovits contention that the lethality of SARS-CoV-2 is dependent on co-infectiion with a retrovirus. She knows a lot about retroviruses. This paper seems to lend weight to her supposition. Many Americans received the gift of a simian retrovirus (SIV-40) along with our polio vaccine. This paper, along with “Plague,” by Kent Heckenlively, JD, and Judy Mikovits, PhD, and the Mercola interview sure seems to put some puzzle pieces together for me. Only way to prove (test) this supposition is to test for retroviruses, in addition to SARS-CoV-2, in both the deceased, the recovered, and the asymptomatic. Ain’t gonna happen. Gates, our supreme leader in infectious diseases, would veto it in a heartbeat. Science is thoroughly broken when a college dropout becomes the most powerful person in the world.
I have read Judy’s latest book. There were a few passages that I was glad of reading but overall I cannot recommend it unreservedly. She has the syndrome Malcolm once identified in gifted people who become set in seeking the answer to a complex issue only in their prime suspect.
Experts can also be those who know an awful lot, about an awful little.
I understand and appreciate she has been effectively shut out of her career, for refusing to retract or bury truths that are critical to being known – even if confidence in the medical authorities and vaccine agenda is weakened or lost. The presence of foreign genetic viral and other matter in vaccinations injected directly into mostly – but not only – infants and children is an extremely likely cause or contributor to a mass degradation of health and immune function that then also feeds the pharmaceutically regulated definition, testing and management of symptoms.
I do unreservedly recommend ‘Fear of the Invisible’ by Janine Roberts. This also clearly documents a lot about the development of virology, inside info on vaccination industry and behind the scenes in the HIV AIDS debacle (what else can I call it?). But she writes as a willingness to question and investigate that is much more coherent and unified in purpose than ‘Plague of Corruption’ – which is perhaps trying to tell her story from the sense of being unjustly denied.
I write none of this to undermine her witnessing to viral contamination and also to her part in establishing that HIV does NOT mean or necessarily lead to AIDS – but for me, she is still deeply invested in framing biology in virology. If I hadn’t a deeper resonance with her willingness to be a true witness against persecution, I would not have gotten through her book.
Binra. This blog is now getting many hundreds and hundreds of replies, and many posts in reply. Can I ask you, and others, to restrict you post in number, or length, as many people are finding things difficult to follow due to the number – and length of posts. Also, as I read them all, this is becoming an almost impossible task for me. I am going to ask others the same thing. Therefore, I am going to ask for a maxiumum of one long post or day. Or three shorter posts. Thank you in anticipation.
Dear Malcolm
Thank you for that. I have to admit that when the posts are long, I don’t always make it to the end
Also the sheer volume is clogging our inboxes. The number of different posters is fairly small and there is churn
I find the long posts in question difficult to make sense of. The style is too complex, and I run out of interest way before the end.
1 of 3 gone.
If I simply posted a link to my post on a blog – so as to not to use screen space – would that help?
IE: The need for re-establishing trust:
https://doctoringthedata.blogspot.com/2020/05/mistrust-of-doctors-forever-more.html
PS: On your blog, the setting to receive replies to our posts does not operate as on other blogs.
It send me ALL posts and NOT JUST responses to my post.
So I have been reading ALL the posts to all your covid related articles – just as you have – and indeed there are hundreds of them. Touching on all sorts of issues.
Malcolm,
Have you thought about getting some help moderating your outstanding blog? There are several long time commenters here that I suspect are retired, and would probably love to help moderate comments.
Malcolm,
I really value the time and effort you put in to maintaining this blog – particularly at this awful time.
Maybe it would help a little if you posted some short update blogs so that the comments would start to build up again from scratch.
Also, since several people say that long posts are fairly unreadable – and I would agree – why not discard any post that exceeds a certain size in bytes?
Ever since the 1990s or even earlier, I have been haunted by a meme in which the USA and USSR swap roles. The USA becomes a totalitarian nightmare in which everything that is not forbidden is compulsory, while Russia turns into a land of relative freedom.
Remembering this recently, I dug through my remaining memory cells for the source. At last I found it: “The Multiplex Man”, a 1991 SF novel by James P Hogan. Jim Hogan was a very good SF writer indeed, although – like many – less focused on characterisation than on plot and technology. But his ideas (and he had so many!) were red-hot.
As well as the scenario where the West and Russia have swapped places, “The Multiplex Man” has a fascinating technical idea: that neurology has advanced to the point where it is possible to transfer one person’s skills, and perhaps thoughts and opinions, into another person’s nervous system. The protagonist is a rather boring and reactionary teacher, who unquestioningly believes everything the authorities say. A military research team has the idea of cloning his political views and injecting them into a young volunteer who has been chosen (unwittingly) for his open-minded and progressive politics. This makes for a good test case: if they can keep the young sergeant’s personality and skills but make him more obedient and conformist, they will have succeeded. Needless to say, the whole experiment blows up most satsifyingly.
Here are the key words (written, remember, in 1990-1):
“But suppose we had the ability to predispose an entire population to exhibiting more desirable and compliant attitudes, say by introducing suitable chemical agents on a mass scale – which could be accomplished by any of several means”.
I wonder if Bill Gates happened to read that book 30 years ago…
Tom Welsh: Does he know how to read? That inability may be why he dropped out of college, and thus has no letters after his name. I watched a creepy video clip from 1998 of him being deposed (presumably for a lawsuit). He is seen rocking back and forth in his chair, taking an inordinate amount of time answering the questions, and eventually giving non-answers. The most dangerous man in the world.
Actually I do believe that Gates is highly intelligent. But high IQ and selfish, malicious motivation is not a good combination – for the rest of us.
He dropped out of Harvard because he was bored and wanted to waste no time getting down to his mission in life: piling up more money than anyone else. (Who could foresee Bezos?)
I suspect that Bill Gates dropped out because he could see the incredible prospects for computers. Like me, he gave up science for software development (only I did it after getting my PhD).
That does not, of course in any way excuse him for the malign role he seems to be playing now, but he certainly deserves a prominent place in the history of personal computers.
Yes, exactly so, SteveR. The key thought that struck me is that we are not faced with a black and white choice between deliberate biological warfare and innocent medical research. Many researchers, often with corporate or government funding and encouragement, have done insanely reckless things with viruses. If some of their handiwork escaped from the lab, it might be hard to distinguish it from biological warfare.
Hanlon’s Razor (yet again): “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity”.
Fat Emperor Ivor Cummins is busy as ever – and he’s just put a covid 19 update on his site today. It includes a TV interview with cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra and a radio interview with Dr Campbell Murdoch, a GP specialising in metabolic health for the NHS.
Here’s a very rough guide to the 14 minutes:
Approx 1 to 4 mins
Ivor discusses:
(1) Vit D – a 4th study out now from India (the others being the Philippines, Indonesia and USA) all showing the same thing – greater risk with low vit D status. It is associational.
(2) social distancing and lockdown from around the globe.
Approx 5 to 8 mins
An Indian TV interview with Dr Aseem Malhotra on metabolic syndrome and covid 19. Metabolic syndrome has 5 markers of risk: (1) blood pressure (2) waist circumference (3) trigs (4) HDL – C and (5) HBA1C.
Can be reversed by diet
Approx 8 mins to 13 mins
Dr Campbell Murdoch discusses metabolic health (car analogy) and the interview covers (1) type 2 diabetes (2) fatty liver (3) high blood pressure and (4) obesity.
Keep blood sugar low.
Here’s the link:
https://thefatemperor.com/ivor-cummins-dr-aseem-malhotra-dr-campbell-murdoch-viral-update/
I saw that video on Ivor’s site–very good and important for people to see. The one lament found so often in the comments thread is “we need to see this on MSM!” I said that for now, it’s up to us to pass all this info on to family, friends, GPs, and anyone who is the least bit open to knowing more (the truth) about human health/nutrition and the best response to these viruses. Speaking of India, I read a headline yesterday that New Delhi wants to implement a “Special Tax” of 70% on alcohol to “discourage large gatherings”. I had to read it twice and just shook my head. I don’t know if they mean alcohol sold in shops or available in public places like bars or venues that would have ‘large gatherings’. My internet was running super slow at the time I saw the headline and I couldn’t download the article before it timed out and got a “non-responsive” message.
Good article today on CHD about two of the fraudsters near the top of the SARS-CoV-2-response food chain in the U.S. Shocking, to say the least, but business-as-usual in the land of the free and home of the brave.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/redfield-and-birx-can-they-be-trusted-with-covid/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=92dc8f98-5736-42bf-908e-04c8ba98d5a2
Are there any standards in public office any more ?
This tidbit today from John Rappaport: “. . .according to the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) “influenza and pneumonia” took 62,034 lives in 2001–61,777 of which were attributed to pneumonia, and 257 to flu, and in only 18 cases was the virus positively identified.” Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Dr. Kendrick, have you seen a lot of flu deaths in your career?
Very interesting Gary! Can you share a link?
Dr. John H: Here it is:
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/05/05/covid-the-numbers-game-the-fraud-and-the-final-answer/
Wow!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/06/professor-ferguson-coronavirus-update-uk-lockdown-end-government/
….. please ……. unleash the dogs of war ………………….
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/06/professor-ferguson-coronavirus-update-uk-lockdown-end-government/
Telegraph is paywalled. Anything that promotes itself as a trusted source is clearly virtue signalling – as if it had any. Why give trust to its content – or click-promote its narratives?
The virus is already an unleashing of the fears and hates and destructive intent of war.
But your plea echoes a comment I just read in a Mercola article welcoming the virus and all in its train as Nature’s Vengeance on an evil humanity.
But be certain, vengeance is hate, and while nature embodies rhythmic energetic exchange in an ever flowing dis-equilibrium that serves the unfolding of a living Universe – human hate is set in refusal to release a past made in hate, to a renewal in moving or unfolding presence.
Giving ‘vengeance to the Lord’ or yielding to the love that you are, is releasing it from your own energy field of manifesting thought or habit-identity – or else hate lords it over you – and you will propagate destructive hate as if a holy calling. Whether as victim or victimiser. So as to give in the manner you have received and elect to receive in NO OTHER CURRENCY until your debt is settled. But what comes around, has gone around.
So how does thinking in the heart have any relevance to the lies and deceits of a world descending to madness?
Consider how easily triggered to react we are – and how manipulated we are as a result.
How else could a system grow on lies but that those who invest in it WANT them to be true?
Is it then meaningful to ask – in the heart – what in all honesty you want to align in or be found in as true – ie something that truly makes SENSE – can be truly understood, appreciated and shared in?
The appeal to reactivity is of bolstering a sense of lack of self, weakness or fear of being hurt, denied, or overwhelmed – and yet inciting or joining in the appeal to hate and war gives reinforcement to the underlying sense of lack of true immune function of centred and aligned living and is therefore reacting from fear rather than owning and addressing its ‘mind-set’ or framing beliefs in yourself – so as to choose to act from a consciously accepted sense of self and life and others. This includes the willingness to desist from reacting until a clear movement is felt trustworthy.
The outside world is NOT the only thing going on, but it can become and overwhelming fixation in the terms our mind is setting it. Unless we can release insane thinking to some moment and willingness of a connected peace, we are consenting to be driven, insanely while assigning ALL responsibility to our targeted hate.
Whatever opportunities are available for rebalancing the mind involve a decision to give time and act in willingness to a release and rebalancing. Many find walking in nature centring, but in extremis, yielding to what is, one breath at a time, through whatever is being experienced, is the release of inflammation or misery to simple unadulterated presence such that the storm subsides and the heart knows its connection to life.
Nothing I have said is denying your right to feel. I am not seeking to take away your power of choice, but to restore it to a more integrated and connected and conscious purpose.
If we want sane and workable outcomes we have to recognise and release the habits or appeals to insane ways and means.
If the elitists expected more reactive violence to use as justification for more draconian imposition – perhaps they overplayed terrorising those who trust them?
Perhaps this ‘psychopathy’ that is in vogue to assign to ‘leaders’ and corporate cabals, is much more pervasive in the whole population like a fungal parasite that operates its host to reseed itself from high places.
Fear of possession by an alien or evil will – works that very agenda – by attempt to escape, overcome or get rid of it. That is why the determination to be the love that you are is not an attempt to try to become something you are not – and then hate a world or life or others for not supporting ‘you’.
I don’t know how this thing will work out either. I’d say we have to feel our way with all the resources we can uncover or draw on, one day at a time, or indeed one moment at a time.
There is a LOT in our own habit-mind that imposes upon and denies the life in others under all kinds of judgemental frameworks of mutually reinforcing belief. That this comes back to us with interest – doesn’t have to be loaded with retribution or vengeance but discerned as feedback.
Garbage in; garbage out. If we are getting garbage back – should we feed an industry to attack the ‘bug’ out there or address the code that is being run – or being allowed to run unattended.
The call to war seems much more succinct and easy to understand, because it is merely the triggering of an already acquired development of complex strategy and defence that is invisible in operation – as the old normal. I like to repurpose everything to support and align purposes I freely align under and can be whole in. Old habits that no longer work are being broken ANYWAY – regardless of the agencies involved, and so the opportunity is to renew our heart and minds in persistent and consistent choices or willingnesses for life. Despite the temptation to frame everything in terms of a war that demand sacrifice of love – until the war is ‘won’.
The idea of the Economy as a version of perpetual war is the same as seeing everything as predator and prey – with pre-emptive attack running against anything threatening the ‘Economy’.
‘Do you want to eat or be meat?’ is a variation of a self-justifying self-betrayal in the realm of a false appetite driven by scarcity, given power. The abused re-enacts the pattern of its abuser.
This day, I live. The capacity to rehearse our own death is a mixed blessing! Conscious alignment of our imagination doesn’t let it run away with itself as already real. The body holds the mind present so as not to be completely escaped by mental dissociations. I see a quality of ‘lockdown’ in running out of ways to evade ourselves – but my version is an implicit self-limiting structure of our own making.
One last point – the ego of a narrative self justification, prejudges and post-evaluates what is in any case CURRENT or actively in play, so as to seem to be (or have an experience of) some sense of private control over its experience. The idea of Current, is nigh – nearer than a now set in between it also evolving past and future. To say that ‘Life is Bigger’ than our capacity to frame or control is not set in quantitative scale – but in qualitative generation. Ignorance of life MUST become arrogant in its presumption to have gained possession and control, and is driven to use it as the basis for survival exclusively in such terms. If ‘survival’ of such a mindset demands denial of the light – not just sunlight as the context of our vitality, but awareness as the light of our consciousness – then it has to be questioned or brought to an innocent curiosity.
Binra wrote,
“Telegraph is paywalled. Anything that promotes itself as a trusted source is clearly virtue signalling – as if it had any. Why give trust to its content – or click-promote its narratives?”
I think that remark is deeply unfair. Newspapers cannot do their job without money, and a reasonable way to do this is to ask for a small subscription. The telegraph gives those who join, a grace period in which they can cancel their subscription and pay nothing.
As it happens, I do subscribe to the telegraph, as I think it provides a great deal of informed opinion that supports an end to the lockdown, the use of Vitamin D to prevent infection, etc.
Who, in their right mind would subscribe to the D. Telegraph? Give them money?
not quite sure why you are so hostile barovsky; the DT led on the story of the Fergoid being caught out; and have done some good reports on the shadowy backgrounds of IC; I have not seen others do that;
You are still ok with the brand that ‘suits you sir’, but many have become aware that despite apparently taking turns to present some sort of plausible denial for being organs of state – (or of a captured and Gated ‘state of affairs’), all of the established media brands are effectively the lock-stepped media. Unless you have awareness from outside the narratives of confinement you MUST seek and find your identity and thought within them.
…Eight further paragraphs on this theme at:
https://doctoringthedata.blogspot.com/2020/05/the-lockstepped-media.html
The DT is gradually revealing much that we have discussed here. I don’t know of any other newspaper that has shed so much light on the mistakes and deliberate distortions (such as counting deaths without distinguishing between deaths of people already dying from something else, and the other deaths that can reasonably be attributed to COVID-19). How many other news sources even acknowledge that this distinction is important?
Dear David
I am sorry. Paywalled only meant you supplied an insider link. I couldn’t join with your interest without signing up for a ‘free trial’ and then remembering to cancel later.
They have every right to charge for content. But it becomes a proprietary realm.
You might have summarised its message for non subscribers.
My next comment was a distinct observation from that blank wall.
If anyone tells you – as do they; “We are a trusted news source”, you should know they are not.
If you cant recognise such tricks in this era, then you want the identity you are being fed.
The Covid-19 POLITICAL pretext was first and foremost mass media driven. I hold that distinct from what kind of cold or flu is running this year. If it was a bio weapon – it was a dud.
In UK, Hitchens and Sumption were almost alone in questioning anything.
You think any of ‘mainstream’ media allow freedom of speech to their journalists?
Consider UK column news willingness to investigate Gates deep partnership with HM Gov. Or that HM Gov paid front page advertorial through this debacle. You will not find that in the MSM.
Perhaps you don’t want to know.
Note to Malcolm, This post may be over quota – (I was trying to clear my inbox!) I shall limit my posting henceforth. Feeding identities and questioning identities are different purposes.
But as this was a reply to me I felt to clarify what I hadn’t meant to convey.
I am sure the Daily Telegraph, like all the other “mainstream media”, receives bountiful contributions from government. The UK government, and very likely the US government too.
As a result, you can rely on the MSM for anything that’s unimportant or unrelated to government policy. Otherwise… not so much. That’s why Paul Craig Roberts calls them “presstitutes” – a felicitous coinage.
For details, read Udo Ulfkotte’s book “Gekaufte Journalisten” (“Bought Journalists”). Herr Ulfkotte died, curiously enough, of a heart attack soon after publishing that book. Probably coincidental.
As Sir Humphrey Appleby used to say, (“Yes, Minister!”)…
“We should be absolute open and frank, and give them full details… of anything they could easily get from other sources”.
The Newspapers? (with apologies): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M
Binra, I see you have ignored Dr Kendrick’s polite request to limit the extent of your posts. In most of them I fail to see much relevance to ‘Focus on Vitamin D’. Maybe you could start your own blog?
I had already sent that before I received his request.
If I am not allowed to answer – you should not tell me off!
The one I sent in direct reply to me DID break the rule – explained itself to Malcolm, and was willing to be NOT published.
Again I am responding to your direct admonition and insinuation (that Malcolm chose to publish)
____Malcolm is free to not publish this_____
But if he tells me off, I can expect it to give permission to others to come out barking.
1. emails communications can cross.
2. Cross people can jump at the permission to tell other people off.
I’m not cross Binra, not cross at all. Just bored. You carry on. I’m going to sit in the sun, focusing on vitamin D.
Well, if Neil F doesn’t think his lockdown is sufficiently necessary for him to abide by it, why should we? And the UK seems to be doing one of the worst in Europe, perhaps because of the lockdown or perhaps because the NHS won’t try treatments that work in other countries. Someone else will employ Mr Ferguson for pots of money, I’m sure, but what of all the other workers whose livelihoods his bad maths has destroyed? Now he’ll never be made to admit he was wrong – every single time – and was largely responsible for destroying the economy
Ok, so the b*****d has quit – when all the info he has propagated is so flawed, doing a runner over “misbehaviour with ones mistress” is another way of describing a chicken run. Go fast before they can get you for the bad you did.
Never mind, I’m cheering.
interestingly, the lady in question, Antonia Staats, is a senior climate activist of avaaz.org
Some have sensed an unholy alliance between lockdown; ending flights and the climate change activists; as gates and vaccines and funding and IC all swirl together, so we have another curious coincidence.
The comment was made
“Antonia Staats, senior climate activist of avaaz.org, wants to end imaginary fossil fuel subsidies. By a “staggering coincidence” she met Ferguson, the gravedigger of the world economy.”
To me, it is clearly all just a coincidence.
Have fun with this blog post by an influential cardiologist who seems to be leaning towards the Swedish approach.
He got so much response that his site crashed earlier today.
https://www.drjohnm.org/2020/05/can-we-discuss-flatten-the-curve-in-covid19-my-eight-assertions/
Received today from Uffe Ravnskov:
Statin treatment may increase the risk of covid-19 and vitamin C may cure it
On April 4 a letter of mine was published in BMJ as a Rapid Response with the title “Cholesterol-lowering treatment may worsen the outcome of a Covid-19 infection.”
On May 1 a response to my letter was published by Matteo Pirro
On May 4 my response to Matteo Pirro was published
On May 4 a response to my first letter was published by Laura D´Erasmo
On May 6 my response to Laura D´Erasmo was published
To be short: There is much evidence that statin treatment may be a major cause of the serious outcome ot the Covid-19 flu.
1. Cholesterol of the Chinese patients who suffered from Covid-19 was lower than normal
2. LDL, the bubble that transport cholesterol in the blood, is an important member off our immune system because it adheres to and inactivates almost all microorganisms and their toxic products.
3. Statin treatment has been subscribed to millions of elderly people all over the world.
There is much evidence that mega-doses of vitamin-C may prevent Covid-19. There is also much evidence that treatment of patients with a life-threatening Covid-19 infection with intravenous injections of mega-doses of vitamin-Cm may save their life. Read my translation of my paper published in the Swedish medical journal Läkartidningen:
Good reasons to test mega-doses of vitamin-C as treatments of covid-19
The Nobel-prize winner Linus Pauling was one of the first scientists who recommended vitamin C treatment of patients with infectious diseases. He was criticised by many because nobody has succeeded by preventing common cold by this way. Probably the reason was that they had used too small doses.
Since then many controlled trials have succeeded by preventing and curing various types of infectious diseases with mega-doses of vitamin-C. The explanation is most likely that vitamin C has an important role in our immune system and that the level of vitamin C in the blood and the urine is extremely low in many patients with serious infections.
Most interesting are the experiments which include patients who, just as those with life-threatening Covid-19 infections, suffer from serious sepsis and pulmonary infections. In a recent analysis the authors refer to five controlled experiments where mortality of patients with sepsis was lowered significantly by intravenous injection of mega-doses of vitamin C.
In some of the experiments mega-doses of vitamin C have been injected 3-4 times a day during several weeks without producing any serious side effects. Vitamin C has even been able to treat various types of virus infections.
Vitamin C treatment has not yet been tested in covid-19 patients but as it is harmless, there are good reasons to try it in patients with a covid-19 infection.
Several weeks ago I sent my paper to more than 50 Swedish newspapers and magazines, but hitherto none of them have mentioned anything about vitamin C as a possible treatment of covid-19.
Uffe Ravnskov
My previous newsletters
There are several links in the email which don’t show here, but here is a starter http://www.ravnskov.nu/newsletters/
Wait, mega dose vitamin c has apparently been used in China and New York. Nobody got giddy so I assume it had little effect.
This is an important government announcement and is mandatory listening:
Good post today by puddleg58. Most interesting to me was the strong association between “high” “cholesterol”, especially HDL, and dietary selenium and mild illness and recovery. Vitamin D, too.
Gary, I can’t find a post by a puddleg58! Can you supply a link?
David, puddleg58? It’s a Blog ‘handle’. Just search for it with your Browser.
David Bailey: Here it is:
https://profgrant.com/blog/
Media sources are now claiming this as false news
“Professor Tasuko Honjo has refuted the alleged quote, describing the claim as “false accusations and misinformation”. His statement, published by Kyoto University on April 27, 2020” That’s from Reuters.
Also
https://newsmeter-in.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/newsmeter.in/fact-check-did-japans-nobel-laureate-professor-say-covid-19-is-man-made-virus/?amp_js_v=a3&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15888425609172&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fnewsmeter.in%2Ffact-check-did-japans-nobel-laureate-professor-say-covid-19-is-man-made-virus%2F
yes, and it reads like fake news, especially the BS about ALL the people in the Wuhan lab being dead/phones turned off.
Not to mention that this Fact Check article has been available online since April 25th, but I only got this “news” about the Japanese laureate’s statement from Mmec’s comment this morning. I could kick myself for even believing if for a few minutes before finding the Fact Check article which disputes it. Lesson (hopefully) learned for good: Never believe ANYTHING you read no matter how much you think the source is “trusted.” I feel a fool for believing it for even a second before checking it out. Thankfully, my blood pressure didn’t have to stay elevated for too long. I wouldn’t have been shocked if the story had been true, but that’s no excuse for my believing it for even a short time. That’s how the scammers can convince people of lies in the first place.
Use the at least 2 preferably 3 different sources saying essentially the same thing. Check the stories on the US invasion of Venezuela.
Who knows what to believe any more? These forums are becoming just as bad as the big social media sites for spreading ‘fake news’. I really debated whether to share the “Japanese Nobel Laureate statement” with my family, and now the media (who isn’t necessarily trustworthy, either) says it’s fake news. What a ridiculous society we’ve become when you can’t trust a GD word anyone says anymore, ffs!
I suppose if we had the time or the inclination we might check that university’s website where the professor’s statement might be confirmed.
Old style Chinese whispers replaced by orchestrated media manipulation.
Apologies to all adherents re the Prof Honjo post. Having put it up, I suddenly realised that ‘all the techies were dead and the phones cut for three months’…so ‘fake’ as to be totally silly to have been taken in for the few mins it took to put it up. I immediately checked it out, then tried to kill my post, no way. could not kill it. Nowt more I could do, except to tell the person from Canada, (whom I know) that his email to me was total crap. Many apologies from him, and more from myself. ‘I’ should have known a hell of a lot better ! Covered in shame from France. (Wish I could scrub the bloody thing.)
mmec7, I replied to you yesterday (may 8th) and asked you to “wash off that shame” and know that we’ve ALL been duped a time or two on a forum/social media platform, and felt badly about it, but my comment never showed up. I spent considerable time last night and this morning searching for it to no avail. I just wanted to thank you for your mea culpa and to wish you a good day and hopefully plenty of sunshine 🙂
teedee126 – Thank you 🙂 Appreciated your kind response. Go well, continue well.
Ne laissez pas le monde vous abattre. Passez un beau dimanche, mmec7. xx
Don’t let the world get you down (grind you down?). Or does this mean don’t let things get you down? I am slowly learning French. I do know Passez un beau Dimanche. [Have a nice Sunday]
Yes, in this instance I decided to use “world” instead of the more traditional “bastards” like we use in the Latin version: Don’t let the bastards grind you down. #SundayThoughts 😉
Très bien mes amis – Salutations – Bonne journai – 🙂
Telegraph seems to hav woken up to the possibility that a con job has been in the making and more tellingly in light of Dr. K’s piece “Because of, with or of ” , Sherelle Jacob states “The alarming number of non-Covid excess deaths remains uninvestigated.”
Dont know if the Guardian would publish that.
The following might interest – Re using low dose Naltrexone, LDN, to treat CoVID-2-19 patients. Trials are being run –
https://www.facebook.com/notes/ldnnow/researchers-at-beaumont-hospital-royal-oak-studying-effects-of-common-drugs-on-c/10157457903438391/?
Really exciting, and looking for good results. LDN successfully treats many arms of medicine. I myself took for many years for ankylosing spondylitis and am hoping that my neurologist will agree to prescribing for MS – private prescriptions are way out !
Reference to the LDN Clinical Study in treat the CoVID-2-19 virus with low dose Naltrexone :-
“Researchers at Beaumont Hospital, Royal Oak have begun enrolling patients in a new clinical study aimed at treating COVID-19 with two common drugs – naltrexone and ketamine. The study is called the Study of Immunomodulation using Naltrexone and Ketamine for COVID-19 (SINK COVID-19).
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s Investigational New Drug program granted Beaumont researchers permission to start the clinical study.” (more…)
(snip…) ““We need a two-pronged strategy to combat COVID-19,” says Dr. Annas Aljassem, study co-investigator. “Low doses of naltrexone, a drug approved for treating alcoholism and opiate addiction, as well as ketamine, a drug approved as an anesthetic, may be able to interrupt the inflammation that causes the worst COVID-19 symptoms.”
Low-dose naltrexone has been used for the treatment of pain and inflammation in multiple sclerosis, Crohn’s disease, fibromyalgia, and other painful conditions. Ketamine, an anesthetic drug, shows anti-inflammatory effects at multiple early steps in the inflammatory process.
“The addition of these two medications, as immunomodulators, to the treatment regimen of patients with COVID-19 has potential to decrease the severity of this disease by reducing the autoimmune, hyperinflammatory stages of the virus, which is destructive to normal tissue and, when unchecked, rapidly leads to death,” Sims says.
folks used to say you needed a biologically plausible hypothesis: or it would help!
This just seems nonsense; to postulate that an opioid antagonist; would somehow be useful for a viral infection ……… this just seems rubbish ……
….. but it is a good way to get a grant; come up with “findings that need further research”: and keep getting more grants: like climate researchers: just keep the money coming along ..
– Terry – there is no grant involved here. It is a research ‘study’. LDN in conjunction with ketamine. LDN works on bringing down inflammation, is an immunomodulator. Ketamine on pain. The two, have the ‘potential’ to decrease the severity of this disease by reducing the autoimmune, hyperinflammatory stages of the virus. It is no a cure, it is a treatment arms to bring down inflammation and to relieve pain.
LDN has been, is being used, to great effect on RA; AS; MS; IBS/IBD; Crohn’s; fibromyalgia; cancer – and other ailments. Suggest you might read the whole item, and for further information check out ldnresearchtrust.org (which is a registered UK charity) : LDN Now : ldnscience.org Also might look at patient stories and input from prescribing physicians, and listen to the Vimeo radio interviews.
This is a good overview of the use of LDN in successfully treating disparate health problems, not ‘curing’ but treating to the point of bringing a good QOL : –
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6313374/
Can assure you no one is making money out of this – there are no big research funds – we wish. Au contraire, as LDN is so cheap, pharma aint interested, and never will be, will add nothing of consequence to their bottom line or attract stockholders – just as the use of Vitamin C; Vitamin D3; Zinc; K2-MK7; magnesium; multi B complex; are almost relegated. Are certainly not being widely touted, not even mentioned by anyone in connection with the darker skinned peoples, Indians, Asiatic groups, Africans etc discussion on how many NHS and health workers are coming down with CoVID-2-19, but only looking at the PPEs, not looking at immunity and the fact that their Vit-D3 levels are very low – only one mention, to below 13 ng/mL – the optimum levels being 50 – 80 ng/mL As indeed, not looking at immunity in older people, especially those in care homes. Not checking out out statin treatments – one note from China, ‘all’ had low cholesterol. PPI treatments, polypharmacy…! Poor diet and adipose problems. There is a huge package of potential information that is being ignored. Why ? Follow the money.
Wrapping up. Am glad to see that LDN is being taken into consideration. It might help, might not, but, LDN does bring down inflammation.
: Short comment here, linking to a less short but insightful & alarming article.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01315-7
With the case in France of a man having had Covid19 in December, and suggestions that other countries may have had earlier cases, too, it is only natural to question why such cases weren’t being acknowledged as something different. I think the reason could be a relative lack of anxiety and panic. At that time the public were not being constantly told frightening things about a circulating virus. So a lack of fear, a lack of the fight or flight response and a lack of the resultant messing with immunity. Fewer serious cases. Panic on the other hand could result in an immune overreaction, followed by a slump.
Stay chilled and slim everyone.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/healing-stress-the-inside-out/202003/your-panic-is-increasing-your-risk
absolutely Tish:
the MSM has everyone running around screaming; so it ain’t surprising that funeral directors in Italy refuse to collect dead bodies; (seemingly, their occupation normally …)
and things like this happen: “A skeleton staff of two nurses had been left to care for a private residence with nearly 150 beds, she said. The remaining staff had fled amid the outbreak of the coronavirus, leaving patients, some paralyzed or with other chronic illnesses, to fend for themselves.” https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/16/world/canada/montreal-nursing-homes-coronavirus.html
How terrifying; if one is taken to a hospita; particularly if elderly; to be confronted by really scared doctors and nurses at its entrance, wearing Darth Vader suits? We have never before known doctors and nurses to be so petrified: sh**ting themselves ……. radiating fear, like rampant microwave ovens ……..
Yes Terry, the masks and gowns and all, and having been told that if they put you on a ventilator it might well kill you because they are not sure what they are doing or what to do. This kind of thing is surely enough to influence the outcome of a few younger victims who are presumed to have no co-morbidity. Our populations include plenty of very anxious people. The younger overworked doctor in China who died had been denounced by the authorities for warning about the virus – that wouldn’t have helped him. And now we have people worrying about their finances and jobs, etc. The desperate constantly stated warnings to stay at home undermine their own purpose. If the government and media were trying to make things worse for people, they couldn’t be doing a better job.
Everyone knows that panic can cause terrible mistakes. On that basis, should the MSM (US and UK) be investigated and prosecuted for deliberately creating a national panic?
The Bakersville doctors, episode 6, perspective on the pandemic, and the collateral damage now occurring while “authorities” wield their “power” https://youtu.be/3f0VRtY9oTs
Best headline of the day, from @rtuknews (instagram page): ” Lockdown to pants down. . .”
Cause of death statistics on the UK:
Gary, thank you for the links to Judy Mikovits and to the ONS. More indications that if there’s one thing politicians DON’T do, it is following the science.
I have just looked on youtube for “Mikovits”, there are lots of videos of interviews with Judy, so there are either people reposting videos that are censored, or the censoring is possibly assumed if someone cannot get access. Some are definitely taken down, but that still leaves plenty.
AhNotepad,
You’ve got to watch this one with Judy Mikovits, it made me cry (25 min.):
https://plandemicmovie.com/
Dr. John H, Yes, saw that one, I’d like to find her report. I wonder how long the lunatics can continue running the asylum. I suppose as long as people think that face masks and 2 metres will keep them “safe”. Since one of the sources of pathogens is shopping trolleys, I grab at as many as I can to try and increase my contact chances. Not only for the wicked virus, but anything else that’s going around. Sterile is not what is wanted. Lest people think I am just bonkers, I accept that if you are treating an open wound on a patient, a mask would be a good idea.
AhN
Yes – good practice if conducting open heart surgery also !
The risk of vitamin D deficiency for everyone, but especially for dark-skinned people in the United Kingdom has long been known, as has the need for supplementation. Even as a (white) child in the 1950’s I remember being dosed with tablespoonsful of welfare cod-liver oil. Me and my brother (my much younger sister escaped the experience), loathed the taste so much my mum eventually found halibut-liver oil instead, which one took in drops on a sugar lump. And we ate kippers, (smoked herrings) which I still eat sometimes, (though I now prefer, the usually boneless, pickled herrings), at least once a week.
The problem of lack of sun is far more acute in the UK than in the States. The northern-most point in the USA is in Maine at about 47 degrees. London is by comparison at about 51 degrees and the northern-most part of Shetland, northern-most island off Scotland, is at just over 60 degrees. Also, throughout the year, there are many cloudy, rainy days due to the Atlantic and the prevalent westerly winds. In a wet month one might barely see the sun at all.
Immigrants to the UK used to be advised of the risk of vitamin D deficiency, or at least some did.
Nearly 50 years ago, I had a neighbour in London, a Parsee woman from Bombay (as it was called then), who, though both were relatively light-skinned, weaned her one year-old son onto fresh, mildly spiced, herring and mackerel, because she was well aware of this risk. Why this knowledge has been lost I do not know.
Keeping people out of the sun is crazy, and fortunately this is being increasingly ignored.
South Africa and the UK have comparable populations, yet South Africa so far anyway, has had only 161 deaths but in ‘developed’ UK we have over 30,000!
Something ain’t right. I lived in SA for 10 years, I know what kind of living conditions 80% of the population endure; the health system sucks, at least 40% unemployed. A Financial Times article comes up with this fanciful reason to try and explain it:
It’s a replay of the argument about statins, there’s always the ‘exception’. Or, it could be vitamin d (sunlight), different diets, less pollution.
PS: Interestingly, black/asian people in the UK are 4 times more likely to do die from the virus than whites.
That sounds like relative risk, do you have an absolute risk figure?
The UK had about eighteen million people come into the country in a six week period between end of January and early March. Only about four hundred from China were quarantined. Everybody else was left to run amok, including thousands from Northern Italy.
I can’t imagine the likes of New Zealand or even South Africa having anything like such a high figure, much less letting people wander off freely without any guidelines regarding distancing or isolation or even hand sanitisation.
Simon C, running amok might have been the best thing in the long term, and hopefully the virus was spread widely, so getting us nearer to herd immunity.
Distancing and excessive hand sanitising for most people are ways to promote fear. Sooner or later it’s probably coming your way, and my way. A well maintained immune system is the best fix.
I heard on the BBC this morning Fergoid’s mates at IC have written a letter saying his was an error of judgement, and the “science” should not be affected. This is despite information from elsewhere the science is questionable, but not a peep from the beeb.
18 million entered the UK in 6 Weeks? What have you been smoking? In any case, it has nothing to do with my observation on the vast disparity between SA deaths and the UK’s. South Africans are packed into townships without running water or adequate sanitation, food insecurity and so forth, yet only 161 have died. As I implied, could it be the Vitamin D that makes the dif? You’d think that all the BS about ‘social distancing’ doesn’t apply in South Africa, that somehow, South Africans have avoided each other?
He Siouth Africans might be staying indoors because if they venturiout thaey are likely to be severely beaten by a policeman with a very big stick.
With all due respect, your response is ludicrous! So, it’s man with a big stick that’s stopping the virus from spreading. Brilliant! I wish I’d thought of it.
I think he means that the lockdown is enforced with greater physicality in South Africa. English humour can be… difficult.
I did not say it was a man with a big stick that was stopping a virus, I said that people might be staying indoors to avoid being beaten. There are many videos on youtube showing incidents of police and soldiers abusing their powers, though that may be normal for South Africa. Please don’t misinterpret what I have written.
In South Africa the first coronavirus cases were travellers returning from overseas, so we may assume they were relatively affluent whites using private health care. We went into lockdown early and the social distancing rules appear to have been well complied with so far, but people are getting restive. For instance, Monday May 4 was pension day, and elderly Africans queued for hours at pay points as usual. People say, what’s the point of social distancing and lockdown if this happens?
C19 has appeared in the townships. No one really knows what will happen. On the positive side, the black population is relatively young, but it is poor and crowded and badly fed. There is a lot of pressure to relax the lockdown and get the economy moving again which of course will involve packed buses, trains, and minibus taxis..
No racial breakdown of deaths is available, but here are some stats for the Western Cape where I live. Median age is 60. Some comorbidity categories overlap.
No comorbidities……41%
Diabetes………………34%
Hypertension………..31%
HIV………………………13%**
Cardiac…………………8%
Obesity…………………6%
**High HIV numbers thanks to Messrs Rath and Duesenberg and their erroneous but persuasive theories.
Forgot to mention that percentages relate to deaths by/with/from Covid-19.
https://coronavirus.westerncape.gov.za/news/statement-premier-alan-winde-during-todays-digicon
I note your assumption that Cov19 only began when scientists ‘discovered’ it and only spreads as we test for it, and also note that Sars-Cov-2 has not been demonstrated to CAUSE an ‘infection or disease’ that has no clinical symptoms in about half or more of its ‘hosts’ and variable clinical mostly mild symptoms that are shared with other respiratory diseases and which viruses (of association) are also present but not tested for. (Though I saw one account where this was done and of course CV19 was not the only virus detected as present at some degree in the host.
But giving one thing exclusive priority renders all else in its image.
I suspect along with Fred Hoyle, Zach Bush and no doubt others, that the winds (meteorological conditions) carry genetic info all around the biosphere – just as they transit intercontinental teeny weeny spiders. Would UV level affect this communication network in the light that the higher spectra of UV deconstructs all viral structures. Perhaps there is too much of this in the summer?
While I don’t see virus as The Cause, I do see it as genetic messaging that includes instructions – ie: to initiate defences against toxicity in the lung (periodically or as triggered by new toxicological – environmental alerts).
Of course life doesn’t have to make sense and concocting superstitions and magical rites against an ultimate meaningless torture is all one can resort to in lockdown against it and thus seem to make sense by opposition. I hold that magical beliefs are what conflict with and oppose or undermine our life support. Especially when we intensify our investments to protect them from re-evaluation in the light of failure.
Where does this figure of 18 million come from? That is between a third and a quarter of the total UK population. Did that number of people really come here in the low season when there was also a poor snow season on the near continent?
Theories believed masquerade as facts – and once used as basis for law become official facts.
The beliefs about actual transmission of viral information are generally just that.
Likewise the superstitions set up to defend, counter or protect.
But the consequence of our actions have real effects.
Unless otherwise shown wrong, I accept that I live in a viro-sphere or viro-soup of trillions of communication packets that travel through the winds that are the breathe of our Biosphere, unless in water droplets when they may travel a number of feet. Without which life on Earth would cease.
Nanoparticulate and environmental toxins or exposures are …
This post continues with several further paragraphs of what I hold interesting and relevant the the theme on:
https://doctoringthedata.blogspot.com/2020/05/theories-believed-mask-as-fact-and-used.html
“I can’t imagine the likes of New Zealand … having anything like such a high figure, ”
….. em …… em … friends there tell me 20 planes a day from China to NZ Nov-March; 6000 visitors a day; that is 180,000 a month, that is 500,000 visitors in 3 months: 10% of NZ population I understand.
And the impact? 1000 reported positive tests: up to 12 people at any one time in hospital; mortality? .. nearly half of their 20 corona with/or/despite deaths were from a dementia unit.
Oh, why so good an outcome overall? .. how about sunlight and Vit D.
As this article says “Influenza epidemics occur each year during the winter in temperate areas of the Northern and the Southern Hemispheres”
Click to access 02-0705_FinalR.pdf
the rona virus is a respiratory viral pathogen
” “Viral respiratory epidemics occur each year during the winter in temperate areas of the Northern and the Southern Hemispheres””
Corollary: They do not occur in summer.
barovsky: What Dr. Kendrick calls “ad hoc hypotheses.” Or “paradoxes.” Both of which signal “pure bullshit” is coming out of the mouth of the speaker.
Not sure what to make of this comment…
barovsky: It was simply in reply to what you had posted, agreeing with you. For some reason my reply didn’t post adjacent to yours.
Okay, gotcha and they never seem to end up where they belong.
Barovsky, though I’ve never lived in SA as you have, I’ve certainly heard a great deal about the unrelenting challenges faced by its citizens (my daughter-in-law Sophia has family there on her Dad’s side. Her grandmother was Ina Perlman.) If there’s still a way to get to the truth in these times, hopefully, we’ll get a full accounting of all the ‘exceptions’ and learn something from every country. Interesting theory from Lang, re: tuberculosis giving an extra boost to resistance against C-19, by the way. Thanks for including that..
Am I the first to post the appalling truth about the Fergoid?
Here is the original Fergoid article containing more information:
https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-review-of-fergusons-model/
Personally, I think the model is too ambitious. It tries to model the whole of the UK in detail and requires a very powerful computer to run. The results vary every time they run it due to coding errors and some deliberate variability built in. What they do is run it many times over and take the average of the results. Note that there is no point in making your calculations more precise than your basic assumptions. It gives you a false sense of confidence in the correctness of your model.
https://github.com/mrc-ide/covid-sim/blob/master/docs/model-overview.md
QUOTE
Basic conceptual structure
Geographical space is divided into cells
This is a spatial model. We divide a country into cells and microcells (9×9 microcells to a cell) which are geolocated.
People live in households located in cells
People are allocated according to population density data (from input files) to cells. People have an age, and other attributes. People’s residence location does not change, but they interact with people in other cells via places (see below) and via random social interactions governed by a spatial kernel function.
People are associated with different civil institutions
People are assigned to places (institutions such as households, offices, schools etc.) that have a geographical location. Place groups which divides places into compartments (the intent here is that you’re less likely to be infected by someone in the same office but who works on a different floor).
People don’t move. Instead the simulation employs spatial mixing probability distributions (spatial kernels) that control the probability that people in cell X will infect people in cell Y located in another spatial region.
Infections spread between people
Infections may be initially seeded in different ways. The simplest way is to seed according to population density (but seeds can be from specific places, or randomly etc.)
InfectSweep is the main function where infections spread. It loops over people and transmits infections by calculating a FOI (force of infection). Infection-spreading is divided into 3 transmission mechanisms:
household infections (e.g. between family members)
place infections (e.g. at work)
spatial infections (e.g. when travelling around)
Spatial infection models contacts between individuals which have a frequency which depends upon the distance between home locations (to avoid literally moving people around cells), modelled using a kernel function that weights according to both spatial distance and population densities.
END QUOTE
thanks David; that is a particularly interesting site to read the critique of the totally shoddy messing about with code that Fergoid was into: it demeans the word “model” to even accord it that title.
The site that discusses the Fergoid; is very used to considering really poor computer modelling; as it is one of the sites where folks who are concerned about “climate change alarmists” gather to express concern about shoddy science of folks like Michael Mann and his kith and kin;
If anyone has studied the cholesterol con; and now looked at the Fergoid corona con; and then has a chance to examine climate change, one might be surprised at what one starts to recognise, as patterns: with cholesterol, a theory was formed: cholesterol is bad: with their being no evidence to support it; the process was then to warp and bend facts to attend to support the cholesterol theory; then it warped into the LDL theory; … then it became .. I don’t know what they would claim now.
David, I bet the politicians either don’t, or don’t want to understand the significance. Let’s hope te wheels are falling off the bus.
To everyone here, I recommend a listen to Zach Bush interviewed by Del Bigtree.
The link is to where Zach is brought in.
He covers just about all the bases is very knowledgable, compassionate and articulate.
If you haven’t met him before. he is worth meeting.
Binra,
That is an excellent video, and I think that the American people, led by the President are going to lead the rest of the West out of this hideous blunder.
When that has happened, I hope there is a root and branch examination of many areas of academia:
1) Are they producing new, reliable information?
2) If they produce computer models, is there any way of validating those models – can they demonstrate that they have done the necessary testing. Fergoid’s program can produce significantly different answers from run to run!
3) Do they shut up knowledgeable dissenters, or do they recognise that it is their duty to discuss with them in public, or at the very least on the stage at conferences.
4) If they take public funds to do their research, is the result publicly and freely available to anyone interested?
David
Ferguson is an interesting case of modern news management
The story about his private life has been around for a month, suddenly it appears in four right wing newspapers on the same day
Secondly all of sudden someone brings to David Davis’s attention an analysis of his model very nicely written, demonstrating that the model as a computer model is rubbish, full of amateur errors etc. Very convenient.
Then leaks that the government is virtually going to do away with lockdown.
Is there a common thread?
“Is there a common thread?”
perhaps they have undergone an insight; such as described by a Mr P Townshend in 1970 when he and his chums sang https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q
“then I get on my knees and pray, we don’t get fooled again ………..”
The ‘TRUTH’ is always the first and *enduring* casualty in politics / war.
– as the wind veers, so do politicians, setting sails to gain future advantage.
Methinks the UK govt dropped the ball at the start, and this is part of ‘catch-up’ …
I see this basic recognition runs more deeply than is commonly supposed.
IE: it is not a speaking of a world out there – or others – that by engaging war, then kill the truth.
Truth is unconflicted in itself, while conflict is a state of partial of conditional relation of dissonance.
If you want something to be true (in a way) that isn’t, as you own way of organising or managing your experience, then you set up a bias or torsion of dissonance, which you can put to one side or set the mind to ‘ignore’ while pursuing something you want. If you know you are doing this you use the mind as a tool. If you become exclusively invested in the tool you become ‘tooled’.
In a sense then we can sacrifice (awareness of) wholeness of being, in exchange for a world we (think we) want. Because we can give truth to a partiality or an illusion, we can also suffer it.
Within collectively reinforced illusion, suffered as if true, we have essentially become subjected and controlled by the impulse to subject and control our world. But our experience is not at all as if we do this unto our self, but that what we are taking ourselves to be, (conditioned by experience to accept true of us), is set in struggle or powerlessness of entanglement in polarised reactions that effectively set order or an appearance of balance that is actually stagnant and life-denying, such that the strain or burden undermines the will to live that is our vital capacity of survival and creative growth or life – but actually in expression – not bottled up in virtual rehearsals.
Continued on
https://doctoringthedata.blogspot.com/2020/05/truth-and-war.html
Mr Chris Just as past misdemeanors of CDC director Redfield and Birx seem to have gained traction lately as Trump appears ready to defy their advice to lift US restrictions.
Thanks David: you ask
“If they produce computer models, is there any way of validating those models”
the Sue Denim article https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-review-of-fergusons-model/
very simply said “On a personal level, I’d go further and suggest that all academic epidemiology be defunded. This sort of work is best done by the insurance sector. .” see the article for why.
I recommend this https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/06/brutal-takedown-of-fergusons-model/ where endless professional coders tell you why what the Fergoid did was so lame, and so bad.
Folks,
I’d like to encourage people going to the MEDCRAM site… they are doing a whole series on Covid-19. Normally (I gather) medcram is a for-pay medical course on various (medical) topics. Fro Covid-19 it is available to everyone for the viewing. There are currently (May 8) about 68 blog posts. The posts vary in length, but 20 minutes isn’t unusual. The content seems fairly technical, but seems to be backed up by articles from Med Journals.
Currently the narrator is working on a hypothesis that involves damage to the endothelium due to CV-19 and involves a lot of language used here: ACE, ACE2, ARB, NO, superoxide, a whole bunch of “aze’s” etc.
By now there is a lot to absorb, and some of the early posts may be out of date, but it seems like a good source of really interesting info on our favorite part(s) of the body…
Yes. I have watched a few. They are very good. Quite technical. I do not fully agree with some of their hypotheses. But they always make it clear that they are hypotheses.
I want to thank you for the time and effort you have put into all these blogs. I love that you include links to the literature, so folks like me (i.e. non-medical) ca n try to make sense of the topic you cover. I consider this blog to be a great service to a lot of people – thanks.
I recommended medcram so some of your technically inclined readers could evaluate another source of what I think is reliable info.
I worry that all this “heads down, b*ms up” obsessing with ACE, ACE2 etc distracts folks from some simple facts:
all respiratory viruses behave the same: they arrive in the Northern Hemisphere winter; their behaviour models a bell-curve; bell-curve of infection, and a later and smaller curve of mortality.
This article https://hectordrummond.com/2020/05/09/alistair-haimes-the-virus-that-turned-up-late/ nicely shows that; the rona is going to be no different to previous winter peaks; let’s stop demonising it; we have the virus, the host and the system.
It’s funny that people don’t seem to realise that basic fact, that respiratory viruses affect people more in winter than summer, perhaps due to the fact that people are indoors far more where they’re exposed to a higher viral load, with central heating that dries out the protective mucus membranes and exacerbated by the fact that vitamin D levels are at their lowest as well in most people.
Even my older sister (she’s nearly 78) sent me a short video that’s doing the rounds with snippets of broadcasts from the New Zealand PM compared with our PM, BoJo, that’s evidently meant to indicate that the strategies employed by NZ were why they have hardly been affected by Covid-19 and that our tardiness, with the PM boasting about shaking hands with everyone who’d been diagnosed, is why we have a problem here.
There may well be an element of truth in it, but I pointed out to her that it has just been summer in NZ, they aren’t as densely populated as here, international travel isn’t as massive as in the UK, they tend to be an ‘outdoor’ race compared with us, very active people – so lots of reasons why you can’t make a sensible comparison. I suggested that we wait until next winter to see what happens in the southern hemisphere before we make judgements like that. In NZ, although they have flu going around in the winter, it’s nothing like the intensity and mortality that we get in the UK.
But many people don’t seem to be able to use critical thinking any more!
Re-reading Dr W. Wodarg’s blog, wodarg.com , I came across an article in English, in which he discusses the known dangers of administering chloroquine and hydrochloroquine to patients who suffer from a relatively common enzyme deficiency, namely of glucose 6 phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD), which affects 20-30% of people in Sub-Saharan Africa and many people in southern Asia and the Mediterranean region. As it is a hereditary x-linked disorder, the sufferers are mainly men.
This blog also carries links to another article of his in English and to a letter from him which was published in the British Medical Journal on 20.04.2020 on the same subject, bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1432/rr-22 , both of which discuss the problem in more detail.
He recommends that care be taken to exclude patients with this condition from any trial of these drugs to treat Covid 19, for their own safety.
Remdesivir from the Gilead Corporation
This is the subject of the latest post on Dr Rath’s site:
https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2020/05/what-you-should-know-about-the-drugs-that-allegedly-fight-the-pandemic/
Firstly there is an article on the pandemic – weakened immune system a factor – and then some thoughts on this miracle cure (according to US gov pandemic advisor Anthony Fauci).
This is followed by a Q&A with Dr Rath.
Nothing to watch – just reading.
Elsewhere, I note a headline that Trump is saying the virus will go away without a vaccine. That’s not going to go down well in certain quarters.
Charles
Sometimes you gotta smile.
Dr David Grimes’ latest blog (8th May 2020) is worth a read:
‘Covid-19, Vitamin D, and the UK Government – I had a dream’
http://www.drdavidgrimes.com/
Clathrate: Thank you very much for that!
Thanks, Clathate.
Brilliant writing:
“Science is not supposed to be held up as law; it’s supposed to be corrected. Being wrong in science is normal. Humility is essential.”
And a lot else.
And, it’s open for comment.
https://www.drjohnm.org/2020/05/will-the-uncertainties-of-covid-science-resurrect-blogs/
I’m posting a quote from “Doctoring Data” because it is so apropos (p. 177): “In short, my fears of an effective totalitarian regime are not some wacko conspiracy theory about the future. They are fears about what is happening right now.” Written in 2014. How quaint, considering that such fears in 2020 have been amplified by orders of magnitude, to an unimaginable level. I do have an extra-sunny disposition, but it is hard not to see a bleak future.
Terry
I think the Sue Denim article is part of the hatchet job on Ferguson
“is part of the hatchet job on Ferguson”
…. because he is a nice guy, and folks are just unfairly picking on him? Poor little Fergoid? That the way it is?
He was responsible for the needless slaughter of perhaps 10 million animals in 2001: and several other pieces of madness in the last 20 years; Chris: teflon creatures like him normally getaway with s**t; do you feel he should be free from answering for what he has unleashed on the world?
Dear Terry
Read what I said.
The Fergoid as gotten massive funding from the Gates Foundation, millions in fact donated to Imperial College. He’s also part of Gates’ GAVI setup. In other words, he locked right into the big pharma capital. Imperial College’s name takes on a whole new meaning.
Dear Terry, dear Barovssky
I was making the point that the coincidence of two pieces of news, Ferguson’s love life and the so called criticisms of his model, as if it had been decided somewhere on high , that it was time he went. I entered into no expression of my opinions on his wickedness, whether Bill Gates is funding him or not.
The coincidence of the two pieces of news resulted in him going, and people thinking he was no loss.
As someone, somewhere else, succinctly put it, ‘He was thrown under a bus’. There had to be a sacrifice just not the people who created the chaos, the government. And frankly, the Gates connection is extremely pertinent to the Fergoid, it’s his paymaster.
my very belated thanks to Dr K for the article that led this particular section
https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/track/pdf/ …… indeed a fantastic article.
I found this article; where the lead of the previous article collaborated with many good souls
Click to access S0950268806007175a.pdf
entitled “REVIEW ARTICLE: Epidemic influenza and vitamin D”
It adds to what is in the first article;
A host of really interesting references; as well as fascinating details from Hope-Simpson; a very patient, and very wise and very thorough researcher. He apparently identified what was behind shingles, as well as studying flu for many, many years. A tremendous guy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870528/
This from the NY Post:
I can get D3 with K2 in tablets or gel capsules. Has anyone any thoughts on which is best?
I would suggest softgels if possible and take with a fatty meal. Not medical advice, but they are fat soluble vitamins and will absorb better taken this way.
Thanks!
Steve Bennett’s Primal Living
Over 800 comments. Links to footage. Links to articles. Maxed out? No one here will be complaining about lockdown boredom.
There is more…
…just spotted on youtube a Primal Living Fat and Furious podcast (episode 17 – What causes heart attacks) with Dr Kendrick. It appears to be very recent (it says, when I viewed it today 10 May, “premiered 6 hours ago”) and it didn’t seem familiar to me – it’s the one in which Dr Kendrick draws an arterial cross section on a board.
As Steve Bennett says at the beginning:
“Go onto youtube, find Primal Living’s channel and type in Fat and Furious podcasts…”
If you just type in Primal Living you’ll see plenty to choose from including one from today in which Ivor Cummins gets interviewed and takes part in a Q&A session with viewers.
One shocking moment when CAC scans appear in the Q&A – the highest Ivor was familiar with was 10,000 – yes, ten thousand!
Just watching ep 17. This Kendrick chappie is really good at explaining things.
I’m reading the Kindle version at the moment. Loads of information and some very impressive contributors.
Further to my heads up about the Steve Bennett/Dr Kendrick podcast episode 17 which didn’t seem familiar to me…
No rubber gloves, no masks, a handshake, no social distancing – it must be one they made earlier, pre lockdown.
If I enclose some more quotes from the review article I mention on Vit D above;
eg pg1132
” It is of interest that no vitamin D is made in the skin at latitude 52x N (the latitude of London) from about October to March because atmospheric ozone easily filters out UVB radiation unless the sun is high enough in the sky [56].”
“some believe influenza explains all the significant wintertime increase in cardiac mortality [57]. The average excess winter mortality in Great Britain alone is 30 000 persons per year [58],”
“For example, Norway has the highest 25(OH)D levels in Europe (thought to be due to its high year-round consumption of fish and cod liver oil) [59]”
” Levels of 25(OH)D in Scandinavia display the least seasonal variation in Europe; indeed there is virtually no 25(OH)D seasonal variation among the elderly in Scandinavia [60]”
“On the other hand, the elderly in Great Britain have low 25(OH)D levels and such deficiencies are much more common during the influenza season [61].”
” Excess wintertime mortality is twice as high in Great Britain as in Norway [62].”
This was all written in 2006; we seem to think we have invented new stuff this year: the rona virus is COMPLETELY different: we are “shocked” at UK death rate: (maybe they were unhealthy in 2006, and have just got unhealthier since then: Dr Aseem Malhotra would say so);
Things are trotting along well in Norway; and Sweden is doing well, and they haven’t trashed their economy; (I know that is purely a “nice to have feature” and truly optional for those with a higher moral calling ..)
Although there has been a recent decrease, Scandinavia generally has plenty of snow, which almost doubles the UVB availability by reflecting it. Norway has apparently recently produced artificial snow for children to play in to avoid boredom whilst the real snow is in unusually short supply. Then there are the high altitude areas and the sea – other things that increase UVB (albeit to a much lesser extent than snow) and may perhaps be also helping to boost vitamin (hormone!) D.
anglosvizzera
May 10, 2020 at 10:13 am – Care Homes, Courtyard Gardens – (gardens to the one nearby, are totally open, and also includes a large parking area) –
Yes. Getting outside; fresh air, some sun, a change of focus, use of eyes. Could make up games. Finding a hidden object, finder is the next person to find the object. Soft ball, for a type of Petanque. Soft ball games. So exercising. Also soft exercises to music sitting and also standing. Many options. Also visits from youngsters, outside, in the garden, with a pet animal. Interaction. Could do some craft work outside as well. Plus, some gardening – growing items from seed. Would need correct supervision, but not jail wardens ! More interaction for the better able, less for those who were less able.
Would be rather fun to organise…!
Yes, I’m sure all that kind of stimulation would do wonders for the residents!
If we are white skinned and get a really good sun tan quickly, might it not significantly lower our vitamin D production (darker skin) afterwards? If so, would it be better to expose lots of skin gently and avoid a sudden rich tan that might lower vitamin D production for the rest of the summer? Or do we make so much of the vitamin when we develop a rich tan that we don’t need any more?
Tish: don’t overthink it: just get out there; avoid the sunblock stuff if you can; just let the sun fall on bare skin; don’t burn (erythemal doses of sun); get “sub-erythemal doses” = tan.
but the article I cite above says
“Furthermore, sub-erythemal doses of UVR, unlike erythemal doses, actually improve phagocytic
activity in human volunteers. For example, Krause et al. reported that a 6- to 8-week course of suberythemal doses of UVR doubled the phagocytic activity in 21 children with recurrent respiratory tract infections [93]. Likewise, Csato et al. found five sub-erythemal doses of UVR increased polymorphonuclear chemotaxis in normal volunteers [94].”
phagocytic activity=bug-gobbling
increased polymorphonuclear chemotaxis=white cells move faster to sound of guns
“. In 2004, Termorshuizen et al. found that parents of Dutch children with the least sun exposure were twice as likely to report that their child developed a cough, and were three times as likely to report their child had a runny nose, compared to children with the most sun-exposure [96].”
also Tish: I now see this “consensus statement”!!! from the British Dermatologists
https://www.bad.org.uk/for-the-public/skin-cancer/vitamin-d/vitamin-d-consensus-2010
“Regularly going outside for a matter of minutes around the middle of the day without sunscreen should be enough. When it comes to sun exposure, little and often is best, and the more skin that is exposed, the greater the chance of making sufficient vitamin D before burning.”
So there you go.
Many thanks Terry. I went for a lovely four mile paddle along the sea edge yesterday and returned with a somewhat red neck and shoulders. Easy to forget the strength of the sun!
Hi Tish
I can assure you that is not a problem for us Celts !
Tish: Good questions. What I suspect is the case (and this is just speculation on my part) is that, since a tan protects the skin from UVA damage, this allows us more sun exposure, thus giving us a roughly equivalent, or perhaps the necessary, amount we need despite the darker skin. Hope that makes sense.
Thank you Gary. That’s an interesting suggestion.
The BBC know about vitamin D. Listen to ‘The Inquiry’ on Radio 4 from Saturday 9th May at 5.30. All about the higher risk of BAME people. The last quarter is about vitamin D.
You commenters out there who view yourselves as disruptors of the status quo, take a good look at this guy’s work. He’s the real thing. On the front lines.
Dear JDPatten, You choose to frame a recommendation to another point of view in a put down of people here who can comment for their own reasons. I am not seeking to be on anyone’s front line but that of my own challenges. You no doubt meet your own.
I was somewhat wary of this doctor’s first video not least for its drama and props. Like – why not rush in from work unchanged and decide your first duty is to youtube your concerns. But I picked up on him before Swiss Doctor told me by google recommendation. Funny how they ban stuff, and they also recommend stuff.
There’s no need in my book to judge the guy or his offering – so much as consider it on its merits.
Or liabilities.
Just noticed Siddel’s twitter feed (did not show in my mail notification).
The underlying dynamic we cannot and need not escape:
https://doctoringthedata.blogspot.com/2020/05/the-underlying-dynamic-we-cannot-and.html
For brevity here are the the final four paragraphs.
The willingness of aligning in control agenda paints itself in a corner from which there is no way out and the cost of survival in such terms demands always greater un-humanity to be accepted as normalised sacrifice that will never be paid off. ‘Infection’ with innate intelligence awaits required or mandated official treatment? I object! And I let it be known that I object.
The demands of a phase of compression naturally occur when a period of expansion reaches chaotic disequilibrium call for qualitative refinement of purpose. But to invested identity may feel like being crushed or deeply threatened, and invoke regressive contraction from life in a stricture of death, instead of to the seeding synchronicity for a new phase of expansion.
When we are triggered, we literally operate a dissociated and dissociating persona and are not in our right mind. Conditioned, triggered, and controlled by hated fears – or loved hates.
Releasing trauma, or conflicting elements set in grievance, is necessarily to revisit the triggering conditions in willingness to uncover new perspective that is wholly recognisable and understandable as an appreciation, shared.
How much of that was actually In English? I could have filled a buzzword bingo card. Just sayin’
JDPatten: Thank you very much for that link.
Click to access nutrients-12-01359.pdf
“Many authors have suggested the involvement of vitamin D in reducing the risk of infections;
……. thus, we retrospectively investigated the 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D) concentrations in plasma obtained from a cohort of patients from Switzerland.
In this cohort,
……. significantly lower 25(OH)D levels (p = 0.004) were found in PCR-positive for SARS-CoV-2 (median value 11.1 ng/mL) patients
…….. compared with negative patients (24.6 ng/mL); this was also confirmed by stratifying patients according to age >70 years. “
yet more Vit D stuff: BMJ meta-analysis from 2016
Click to access bmj.i6583.full.pdf
“Vitamin D supplementation was safe and it protected against acute respiratory tract infection overall. Patients who were very vitamin D deficient and those not receiving bolus doses experienced the most benefit.”
” Among those receiving daily or weekly vitamin D, protective effects were stronger in
those with baseline 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels <25 nmol/L
……. than in those with baseline 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels ≥25 nmol/L "
25 nmol/L = 10ng/ml ….. perhaps the more common unit to express Vit D
One of the researchers; from Brisbane, Australia https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11501096/vitamin-d-less-vulnerable-coronavirus/
"Dr Neale comments that she sits in the sun in Brisbane, Australia, for for five to ten minutes everyday to trigger her body's production of vitamin D.
The doctor does not take vitamin D tablets as she believes time in the sun provides more benefits – but accepts they are useful for people who can't leave their home."
Perhaps the government could have recommended sitting in gardens or balconies to get some sun during the sunniest April on record in the UK? Instead, many people took the stay at home advice as stay indoors.
Then again, would we be getting vitamin d in April? Given longitude/latitude and all that? People tell me your shadow has to be shorter than you for you to be able to generate vitamin d.
Another Nic Lewis article. Worth a read:
Graphs of the decline in mortality of the common childhood infectious diseases prior to the vaccine era:
Click to access ImmunizationGraphs-RO2009.pdf
Gary – This is very hard to believe – probably so Iincredible many will dismiss it. I have used it since and find that nobody comes back to argue a point on it, either it kills the argument or they find it unbelievable.
No references to smallpox or polio tho !
Jerome Savage:
Polio:
Click on the right sidebar “The Age of Polio Explosion,” by the late, great Dan Olmstead:
https://www.ageofautism.com
Smallpox:
(also, a wealth of information in “Dissolving Illusions” on both diseases):
Click to access 101229606.pdf
Good idea to read contemporary accounts of historical events.
You are quite right. Stark facts that undermine the basis for the argument or in this case learned and acquired worldview, that actually get a look-in or listening to, are met with silence, if not stonewalled, and then ‘reality’ picks up again as ‘normal service’ is resumed but with a undertow of some disturbance that wont go away until the issue is properly addressed. If anything the belief system may be intensified or ramped up to overcome or defend against the communication associated with disturbance, as if it is the cause of upset.
In this sketch we have a core pattern for mistaken identity or invested model, maintained against the possibility of an inner recognition that, after its period of unsettling and disturbance, heals. Loss of faith in life and self and resilience of solidarity under adverse conditions makes us defended against the process of change itself as attempt to protect bubble realities that could simply be stepping stones in a movement rather than fortified positions set against life.
Addressing the problem where it is, rather than where a mind-set wants to put or frame it – and gets reinforcement from persisting in attacking, overcoming or masking and managing there.
Is it that in some way our lives are broken and we seek and find ways to hide the pain or shame of it in ‘side effects’ or sideshows given power from a need to keep our life together against all odds? I feel science comes in when we are joyously called to uncover truth our fear and superstitions kept hid. Otherwise it is set only to seek and find reinforcements for the masking identity – and hey! Look where we all are now! But it isn’t really Science – excepting the technologism of using clever thinking to cover over a lack of substance.
Being right is not being healed or whole – but coming back into our right mind is not gained at the expense of another’s wrong, but the restored capacity to meet in shared worth.
I’m with Jonathon Sumption on common sense, as a heart and mind working as one.
With much thought being given now to consuming Vit D, I went off to check; as it seemed to me that eating liver; would be a source of Vit D. (I thought I would confine myself to animal sources).
https://www.livestrong.com/article/376027-vitamin-d-damage-to-the-liver/
The comment that “Many kinds of liver diseases that cause damage to the liver can result in low levels of vitamin D in the body.” ….
…. made me reflect on how common NAFLD is: non-alcoholic fatty liver disease
eg from here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29851153
“(NAFLD) is the commonest cause of chronic liver disease in the Australian population, although precise estimates of prevalence are lacking.” However 60% of obese Australians have NAFLD, and over 30% of Australians are obese.
However for the morbidly obese, “the incidence is from 83–96%” and 15-26% of those had NASH: a more serious variant: steatohepatitis: “NASH was associated with insulin resistance, hypertension, and an elevated ALT” … the usual suspects …..
The morbidly obese, and the less obese have featured prominently in ICU admissions; with hypertension, T2 diabetes, heart disease.
“damage to the liver can result in low levels of vitamin D in the body.” or is associated? or what?
As someone who volunteered for years at a Crisis Centre, I dealt with people on all points of the mental health spectrum, but the one thing that many callers had in common was a feeling of intense loneliness, mainly brought on by the despicable stigmatism against the mentally ill. It was heartbreaking that their families, former friends and coworkers, as well as their own GP’s and sometimes their Psychiatrists, who above all should know better, all made them feel ‘less than’ as a person.
I found it despicable to see someone on this thread called a “fruitcake” and dumbfounded as to why the comment was allowed to be posted in the first place. Regardless what any of us think of Binra’s writing, whether we get something of value from it or find it difficult to process in our often tired minds, that was inexcusable and has me questioning a comment I once made about this site being ‘an island of comfort and sanity’ or whatever it was I said. It’s very much a place of favouritism and cliquism in some cases, but why that should disappoint or surprise me is something I’ll have to work out for myself.
Yes. At risk of over-commenting – it is how we respond to problems when they come up, that establishes our character or culture – not an ideal of perfect freedom for having them.
I have no axe to grind on my own account but if we don’t support the principle of communication, why be surprised when we suddenly find we no longer have it – or feel so self-censored as to lock-down and self-exclude?
(slightly continued at the bottom of https://doctoringthedata.blogspot.com/2020/05/living-from-wholeness-shift-of.html
People are dying. Did you miss that? Move along…
I listened to More or Less on BBC Radio 4 yesterday morning – “R is one of the most important numbers of the pandemic. But how is it estimated? And is Vitamin D an under-appreciated weapon in the fight against Covid-19?” At the end of the programme there was a mention of a study at Queen Mary College, London by Covidence UK that is collecting data form people and medical outcomes to see if they can find a link between lifestyle and coronavirus. Vitamin D was mentioned specifically. Has anyone any experience with Covidence UK?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-vitamin-d-death-rate-covid-19-patient-dublin-liverpool-study-a9508726.html
Thank you, Andrew. I’ll have a look at that.
Reasonable article, good. Then, one checks through the comments…heck. Most are cringing away from Vit-D3 claiming can overdo it, it is dangerous, will hype up the immune system that in turn will lead to unwanted problems… A few lone voices of sense. Help. Dr Michael Holick where are you ? God help us. One could scream. (head bash on desk !)
Some links.
[1] COVID-19 ’ICU’ risk – 20-fold greater in the Vitamin D Deficient. BAME, African Americans, the Older, Institutionalised and Obese, are at greatest risk. Sun and ‘D’-supplementation – Game-changers?
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1548/rr-6
[2] Vitamin D Deficiency- An Ignored Epidemic
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068797/
[3] Editorial: low population mortality from COVID‐19 in countries south of latitude 35 degrees North supports vitamin D as a factor determining severity.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/apt.15777
[4] Vitamin D and doctors in UK dying from Covid-19.
http://www.drdavidgrimes.com/2020/04/vitamin-d-and-doctors-in-uk-dying-from.html
[5] Covid-19 severity by Vitamin D Level. https://www.grassrootshealth.net/blog/first-data-published-covid-19-severity-vitamin-d-levels/
[6] Vitamin D Data Scotland. https://www.scotpho.org.uk/life-circumstances/vitamin-d/data/
[7] Patterns of Covid-19 Mortality and Vitamin D: An Indonesian Study.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3585561
Thanks for all those excellent links Szarla. Sigh of relief – should be flashed up before *every govt. address – leaflets to ALL GP surgeries, Posters up in A&E depts. Posted on every single NHS notice board.
Just listening to Question Time – govt dept, useless. ‘We protected’ and the rest of the sideways stepping approach. Sigh. Like Fiona Bruce, but she was not as sharp as she usually is this evening. Still ‘no’ mention of vits and supplements.
Snuck into the park again today, but left by the front door! They’re no longer even making a pretense of keeping it closed. Met lots of other rule-breakers. The BS is crumbling! Lovely hike. Dogwoods in their glory, and we saw two fornicating garter snakes. Right out in the open. Shameless, they are.
The sense of this message is so true
As a person with Hashimotos the benefits of Vitam D supplements are vital.
A wonderful read
JDPatten: Here’s something for you to chew on:
https://kellybroganmd.com/why-we-stay-asleep-when-covid-19-is-trying-to-wake-us-up/
I much enjoyed ‘Questioning Covid-19 with Dr. Andrew Kaufman, Dr. Kelly Brogan, and Dr. Barre Lando”. There is also a clip youtube of just her closing speech, but the whole thing resonated with my sense of active consciousness as the act of communication.
The willingness to question and receive – as an integrative pattern recognition instead of a set of linear terms and conditions seeking reinforcement.
So, what is it that you used to teach, Gary?
https://fullfact.org/blog/2019/mar/does-backfire-effect-exist/
JDPatten: Upper elementary. Great fun it was, most of the time. Hardest work I’ve ever done, though. As for fact-checking, I’ll do that myself. I think were in a hell of a state if we trust any particular third party to tell us what is true and what is not.
Gary,
I would venture to say that the “information” we all get in 2020 – on which we must make our judgements of factuality – is virtually all third hand. That’s probably mostly electronic, either directly or from our friend’s and neighbor’s electronic devices. It’s all already been judged. Every bit of information you have at hand to judge has already been through the bias mill. All you or I can do is pick and choose. Pick what you like to confirm your own bias. Or: Look closely at what you don’t like and figure why not. Look at the stuff that contradicts other stuff and figure why. Reassess.
It’s exhausting, and what you get in the end is based on your own level of expertise.
Oh yes, there are real Experts out there. And there are many more claiming to be. Who’s who?? Probably none is capable of seeing the whole of this COVID thing.
Certainly not me. It’s why I’m still here. You?
It’ll be SO interesting to look back from the future.
To a disconnected sense of rationality, healing is a bias and truth is an assemblage or constructed ‘reality’ demanding compliance.
Healing is of course in the process of being eradicated by realistic symptom management.
Healing is not primarily physical, but rather the release of conflicted and dissonant narrative identities – or models or theories, that are characterised by fear-conflicts and coercive controls set upon a field of communicating potentials.
You are directly connected to and expressive of the field of potentials – regardless the structures you currently ‘inhabit’ or identify in. the difficulty in communicating this is that the mind by definition masks over a self-isolating lockdown of conflict to a sense of control seeking reinforcement.
An amazing and moving novel. And an inspiring teacher. Such gifts become part of who we are.
JDPatten: I’m here because this is a fine community of rebels. Dr. Kendrick has immunized us against unquestioning trust in the medical establishment and received scientific truth, and given us “10 tools for establishing the truth.” I find great joy in thinking about stuff.
Ah yes. I remember well the seventh grade. My teacher was Mr. Maley. He spent much of that school year reading The Last Of The Mohicans to us, aloud. The whole thing. His own idea, certainly not the administration’s. Shhh.
I suspect that I am who I am today, at least in some small part, because of that experience.
Kudos to the teachers of those formative years.
Nice article, nice info for who is suffering from anxiety and depression.
https://www.hupcfl.com
Tim, sitting in front of a screen is not an adequate substitute for physical presence or contact.
Here we are a year and a half later, and health authorities here in Canada still refuse to recognize any and all early treatments, including vitamin D, as they tighten the noose on everyone but especially unvaccinated people over a fast-spreading cold virus.
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Good afternoon Dr Kendrick
For several years now, ever since I read your opinion on Vit D, at the start of the COVID ‘farce’ I have been taking 8000 units of Vit D. I recently changed GP practices and had a ‘full blood test’. The only abnormality was raised ALP. So I consulted Dr Google (well who wouldn’t?) and came across one article that seemed to say excessive Vit D supplementation could cause this. I was pretty sure my Vit D level would be pretty healthy, so decided that for the 2 weeks prior to my repeat blood test, to skip the Vit D.
Well, today I got my Serum total 25-OH Vit D level and it’s come in at 170nmol/l.
No comment from my GP. What are your thoughts on this please? I probably do get adequate of dietary Vit D, following a Low Carb, healthy (natural) fat diet. Any advice please, or, for that matter on raised ALP? I sometimes thing that a ‘normal’ blood panel is probably different for people who don’t eat Carbs.